Mayweather against all the top 147 pound champs in history

Im not keen on insulting posters here on boxingscene but that guy is a fool who DKSAB.In years of being on here, I have never seen anyone as bad as him. Everyone makes bold or odd remarks but that guy just pours on the ridiculous with every statement he makes.

Check this out!! This guy below says that Robinson was a HORRIBLE fighter compared to Floyd, calls Hearns a BUM and unintelligent, and said "SRL, Hearns, Duran, Robinson COMBINED would never be able to show the level of in-ring perfection of Floyd, EVER." Can you believe this????!!!! See below! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653859&page=11 Im not keen on insulting posters here on boxingscene but that guy is a fool who DKSAB.

Check this out!! This guy below says that Robinson was a HORRIBLE fighter compared to Floyd, calls Hearns a BUM and unintelligent, and said "SRL, Hearns, Duran, Robinson COMBINED would never be able to show the level of in-ring perfection of Floyd, EVER." Can you believe this????!!!! See below! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653859&page=11

Once you see who is writing this you already know its gonna be BS:kiss:Why talk about yourself that way?

Agreed. This was a different era when the best fought the best, not like today's WWE style prima donnas. These guys were not afraid of challenges or taking a loss, they fought more than twice a year and were able to go 15 rounds. They were on a whole 'nother level compared to Floyd.BINGO! They proved themselves for 15 rounds which add another element of greatness because those last 3 rounds can be hell and there is no way of knowing if today's fighters could be as effective for those final TRUE championship rounds. I don't give all the fighters today a pass and just assume they could go 15 hard rounds.

Many of the guys on that list were naturally larger guys and wound up in much heavier weight classes. They could have eventually cornered and pummelled Floyd out by virtue of their size. But given you've neutralised that benefit at an effective weight for Floyd it's pretty obvious Floyd beats all on that list except maybe a prime Oscar. Leonard and Hearns have decent punchers chance. Sweet Pea might survive but he wouldn't do much damage to Floyd. Trinidad would be a good fight but Floyd would get him. Robinson is too crude to have properly fought Floyd.When you say pummelled Floyd due to size, most of the guys spent most of their prime at 147 and the fact is, Floyd has been at 147 for 8 years so any matchups between him and the rest at 147 are quite fair.

who cares? Its his 4th division and he's still super small at the weight after all these years. Most of those guys were in there 1st division and huge. If you want to compare him to guys like SRL & Hearns then do it in a p4p sense like those 2 at WW vs Floyd at SFW. Floyd more than holds his own then A lot of these idiots on here think Floyd is big at WW. Literally they actually think that. Some think the in-ring weights are paid off, fake numbers. Some go by his reach being 72" therefore he's big at the weight. There's a few others aswell. It's actually insane. Someone actually said that Floyd is bigger than Kell Brook and Canelo. And they were serious.

Leonard - Floyd will duck Hearns - Floyd will duck Duran (1980 Montreal) - Floyd will duck Benitez Cuevas Whitaker - Floyd will duck Curry Starling Simon Brown McCrory Trinidad - Floyd will duck Oscar Prime - Floyd will duck Quartey Armstrong - Floyd will duck Robinson - Floyd will duck

A highly motivated Quartey easily beats any version of Floyd. That jab was nearly perfect and the height would be too much for Floyd to handle. I really don't think Floyd could beat many of the WelterWeight Champs. He loses many of his main advantages like speed, reach, and athleticism. These guys aren't Corrales, Mitchells or Judah. They were tough, fast, and carried power in both hands and arguably better boxers. Agreed. This was a different era when the best fought the best, not like today's WWE style prima donnas. These guys were not afraid of challenges or taking a loss, they fought more than twice a year and were able to go 15 rounds. They were on a whole 'nother level compared to Floyd.

Leonard- I'm on vacation Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing. Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight. Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico. Cuevas- He got 15 losses. Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems Curry- Who? Starling- Who? Simon Brown- Who? McCrory- Who? Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best. Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight. Quartey- Easy Work. Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test. Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Jimmy Doyle. I'm a Floyd fan but holy **** this was funny

A highly motivated Quartey easily beats any version of Floyd. That jab was nearly perfect and the height would be too much for Floyd to handle. I really don't think Floyd could beat many of the WelterWeight Champs. He loses many of his main advantages like speed, reach, and athleticism. These guys aren't Corrales, Mitchells or Judah. They were tough, fast, and carried power in both hands and arguably better boxers.

Ouch! Maybe I need to review his dad's footage but I'd give junior more credit than that.

Leonard- Sugar by split decision, i see this being razor thin but with Leonard getting the close rounds on 2 of the 3 cards with the more eye catching flurries. Hearns- Hearns was a corpse at 147, although still a beast so if it was the same day weigh in like when he fought there i would say hearns wins a competitive decision but with a weigh in a day before the fight where he could rehydrate i would pick Hearns by 9th round KO. Stylistic nightmare for Mayweather but he is a nightmare for most people i guess, only guy i would pick with confidence to stop Mayweather. Duran (1980 Montreal)- Mayweather hard fought unanimous decision. Duran is a great fighter of course but i feel this version of Duran is overrated in comparison to the rest of his time at 147. Not that he is overrated in general but i don't think he was so much greater on this night, it was a very close fight against Leonard, it's not like he just steamrolled him. This would be much more competitive at 135. Benitez- Mayweather split decision, I agree he gives him fits but the same thing can be said in reverse. Benitez in my opinion may have never reached his full potential, not very disciplined especially compared to Mayweather. Cuevas- Mayweather comfortable decision Whitaker- Mayweather split decision, if it was at 135 i would pick Whitaker by split decision but i think at 147 Whitaker was a bit bloated and didn't grow into the division as well as Mayweather. The skill would be through the roof in that fight! Curry- Mayweather close unanimous decision. Starling- Mayweather Majority decision. Simon Brown- Mayweather wide decision McCrory - Mayweather wide decision Trinidad- Trinidad can crack and is always dangerous but i think he just gets outboxed tbh. Oscar- It's true Oscar had seen his best days and it was a competitive but clear (in my opinion) win for Mayweather but also it's worth considering: A) the size difference wouldn't be as big at 147 B) neither fighter would really be the 'a-side' or the standout cash cow like Oscar was in their actual fight so judges may not be subconsciously giving Oscar the benefit of the doubt. C) Oscar being near the end was sort of on a 'last hurrah' and was very emotionally involved in the fight, reminds me of Frazier's performance in the third fight with Ali in that he did much better than expected purely off motivation despite being past prime. I doubt a prime De La Hoya would waste so much energy early on which did give him some of the rounds on activity, instead i think it would be more of a chess match which favours Floyd. I think it would be a competitive win for Mayweather but with less drama than their actual fight. Quartey- Mayweather unanimous decision Armstrong- Armstrong unanimous decision Robinson- Robinson unanimous decisionvery solid post and indepth observations!!

Leonard- I'm on vacation Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing. Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight. Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico. Cuevas- He got 15 losses. Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems Curry- Who? Starling- Who? Simon Brown- Who? McCrory- Who? Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best. Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight. Quartey- Easy Work. Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test. Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Jimmy Doyle. Very accurate.

Leonard- I'm on vacation Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing. Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight. Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico. Cuevas- He got 15 losses. Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems Curry- Who? Starling- Who? Simon Brown- Who? McCrory- Who? Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best. Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight. Quartey- Easy Work. Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test. Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Jimmy Doyle. I lost it at McCrory.....I started sounding like an owl with all the "Who"'s I honestly don't think Floyd beats a prime version of his own father at 147. All of that hugging and push off elbowing he does does not equal skill to me...there is no holding most of these big welters on this list...Floyd's resume at this weight is average at best. Has he fought a prime welterweight taller than 5'9"?

Leonard- I'm on vacation Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing. Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight. Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico. Cuevas- He got 15 losses. Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems Curry- Who? Starling- Who? Simon Brown- Who? McCrory- Who? Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best. Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight. Quartey- Easy Work. Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test. Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Jimmy Doyle. TBE: Health First.

LOL!!!! Great response!! Especially the take the test one for Armstrong! But seriously, I do give him a chance against many of the former 147 pound champs. Many of the guys on that list were naturally larger guys and wound up in much heavier weight classes. They could have eventually cornered and pummelled Floyd out by virtue of their size. But given you've neutralised that benefit at an effective weight for Floyd it's pretty obvious Floyd beats all on that list except maybe a prime Oscar. Leonard and Hearns have decent punchers chance. Sweet Pea might survive but he wouldn't do much damage to Floyd. Trinidad would be a good fight but Floyd would get him. Robinson is too crude to have properly fought Floyd.

leonard- sugar by split decision, i see this being razor thin but with leonard getting the close rounds on 2 of the 3 cards with the more eye catching flurries. Hearns- hearns was a corpse at 147, although still a beast so if it was the same day weigh in like when he fought there i would say hearns wins a competitive decision but with a weigh in a day before the fight where he could rehydrate i would pick hearns by 9th round ko. Stylistic nightmare for mayweather but he is a nightmare for most people i guess, only guy i would pick with confidence to stop mayweather. Duran (1980 montreal)- mayweather hard fought unanimous decision. Duran is a great fighter of course but i feel this version of duran is overrated in comparison to the rest of his time at 147. Not that he is overrated in general but i don't think he was so much greater on this night, it was a very close fight against leonard, it's not like he just steamrolled him. This would be much more competitive at 135. Benitez- mayweather split decision, i agree he gives him fits but the same thing can be said in reverse. Benitez in my opinion may have never reached his full potential, not very disciplined especially compared to mayweather. Cuevas- mayweather comfortable decision whitaker- mayweather split decision, if it was at 135 i would pick whitaker by split decision but i think at 147 whitaker was a bit bloated and didn't grow into the division as well as mayweather. The skill would be through the roof in that fight! Curry- mayweather close unanimous decision. Starling- mayweather majority decision. Simon brown- mayweather wide decision mccrory - mayweather wide decision trinidad- trinidad can crack and is always dangerous but i think he just gets outboxed tbh. Oscar- it's true oscar had seen his best days and it was a competitive but clear (in my opinion) win for mayweather but also it's worth considering: A) the size difference wouldn't be as big at 147 b) neither fighter would really be the 'a-side' or the standout cash cow like oscar was in their actual fight so judges may not be subconsciously giving oscar the benefit of the doubt. C) oscar being near the end was sort of on a 'last hurrah' and was very emotionally involved in the fight, reminds me of frazier's performance in the third fight with ali in that he did much better than expected purely off motivation despite being past prime. I doubt a prime de la hoya would waste so much energy early on which did give him some of the rounds on activity, instead i think it would be more of a chess match which favours floyd. I think it would be a competitive win for mayweather but with less drama than their actual fight. Quartey- mayweather unanimous decision armstrong- armstrong unanimous decision robinson- robinson unanimous decision good post!!!!!!

Okay, so what is your take on Mayweather against all these champs in their prime from 1975 on, with the exception of Robinson and Armstrong who I added and Carlos Polomino who I removed: Leonard Hearns Duran (1980 Montreal) Benitez Cuevas Whitaker Curry Starling Simon Brown McCrory Trinidad Oscar Quartey Armstrong Robinson Leonard- Sugar by split decision, i see this being razor thin but with Leonard getting the close rounds on 2 of the 3 cards with the more eye catching flurries. Hearns- Hearns was a corpse at 147, although still a beast so if it was the same day weigh in like when he fought there i would say hearns wins a competitive decision but with a weigh in a day before the fight where he could rehydrate i would pick Hearns by 9th round KO. Stylistic nightmare for Mayweather but he is a nightmare for most people i guess, only guy i would pick with confidence to stop Mayweather. Duran (1980 Montreal)- Mayweather hard fought unanimous decision. Duran is a great fighter of course but i feel this version of Duran is overrated in comparison to the rest of his time at 147. Not that he is overrated in general but i don't think he was so much greater on this night, it was a very close fight against Leonard, it's not like he just steamrolled him. This would be much more competitive at 135. Benitez- Mayweather split decision, I agree he gives him fits but the same thing can be said in reverse. Benitez in my opinion may have never reached his full potential, not very disciplined especially compared to Mayweather. Cuevas- Mayweather comfortable decision Whitaker- Mayweather split decision, if it was at 135 i would pick Whitaker by split decision but i think at 147 Whitaker was a bit bloated and didn't grow into the division as well as Mayweather. The skill would be through the roof in that fight! Curry- Mayweather close unanimous decision. Starling- Mayweather Majority decision. Simon Brown- Mayweather wide decision McCrory - Mayweather wide decision Trinidad- Trinidad can crack and is always dangerous but i think he just gets outboxed tbh. Oscar- It's true Oscar had seen his best days and it was a competitive but clear (in my opinion) win for Mayweather but also it's worth considering: A) the size difference wouldn't be as big at 147 B) neither fighter would really be the 'a-side' or the standout cash cow like Oscar was in their actual fight so judges may not be subconsciously giving Oscar the benefit of the doubt. C) Oscar being near the end was sort of on a 'last hurrah' and was very emotionally involved in the fight, reminds me of Frazier's performance in the third fight with Ali in that he did much better than expected purely off motivation despite being past prime. I doubt a prime De La Hoya would waste so much energy early on which did give him some of the rounds on activity, instead i think it would be more of a chess match which favours Floyd. I think it would be a competitive win for Mayweather but with less drama than their actual fight. Quartey- Mayweather unanimous decision Armstrong- Armstrong unanimous decision Robinson- Robinson unanimous decision

who cares? Its his 4th division and he's still super small at the weight after all these years. Most of those guys were in there 1st division and huge. If you want to compare him to guys like SRL & Hearns then do it in a p4p sense like those 2 at WW vs Floyd at SFW. Floyd more than holds his own thenI'm comparing him here because it doesn't matter what divisions he was in before, he would STILL be competitive with and beat a lot of 147 pound champs. Some even think he beats most if not all the 147 pound champs so apparently the weight classes Floyd came from, don't mean he doesn't stand a chance against the 147 pound champs. You talk about holding his own, so you think all the guys I mentioned beat him??? I don't. And the fact that he has fought at 147 for a long time and been a champ for a long time makes him fair game in comparing to other champs, some of whom have not had as many defenses as Mayweather has made. He is considered somewhere among the greats at 147. We DONT have to shrink other champs or expand Mayweather to make it fair unless Floyd had never fought at 147, which he obviously has, many, many times.