Duran said something to that effect..But does that mean Floyd would be the same fighter he is today..I mean would he do everything then he does now..Or would he be better then now cause of the better competition developing his boxing skills to finer degrees..Or is he at a limit now that can't be improved regardless of who his opponents were..
Looking back would we see him as the greatest thing since SRR or would we see him like his dad ..Good fighter but against the elites always on the losing end..Educate me folks what would be different in his game..or would he have less game and why
Floyd would have retired and waited to them to all fight and beat each other up before cherry picking them whilst they were about to retire all mangled and shop worn....then claim he ducked or dodged no one and is the best because he beat them all.
He also considered them all undefeated strong champions, even though they had racked up losses between them.
Sounds about right to me
[Only his age is breaking him down because no fighter ever has.
And he's still undefeated!!!
At 37 years of age...
Yeah but at the rate age is breaking him down is not fast at all..I think he is in as good of shape as a fighter in his 20s..Look how hard he trains guys at 37 don't want to train that hard ..he trains ..Floyd trains hard like a contender
fighting for his first shot at the title...If he loses a fight it won't be because he didn't train hard enough..Floyds ring age is young ..Notice he has an uncanny ability to time and move his body in little motions that make it difficult to land a solid punch on him..Its like he feints,...deflects . taking punishment
is what ages you ..Ring Age.. probably look 10 years older facing guys like Duran Hearns Hagler ..Win lose or draw..Floyd would be taking more punches ..
This entire argument is totally useless. Duran, all the haters on this site, and everyone else who compares Mayweather to fighters of yesteryear all do the same thing that makes their comparison completely baseless. They compare Mayweather as he is now -- 37 years old and fading in a division that is three divisions above where he started -- to the greats of yesteryear in their primes in their best weight division.
That idiot, Teddy Atlas, did the same thing Saturday night when he said he difference between Sugar Ray Leonard and Mayweather is that SRL would have KO'd Maidana. Sure, SRL in his prime at age 25 at his starting professional weight of 147 pounds would have KO'd Maidana. However, at 37, SRL was retired. He fought his last two fights at age 31 (a loss to Terry Norris on points) and at age 39 (a KO loss to Hector Camacho). If SRL had fought Maidana at the age of 37 (like Mayweather did), SRL would have definitely lost and likely been KO'd himself.
Mayweather's best weight was 130. In his 20s, at 130 and 135, Mayweather KO'd 80 to 85 percent of his opponents and only one fighter, Jose Luis Castille, was even able to give Mayweather a competitive fight at those weights. Shane Mosley was so afraid of Mayweather that he turned down an offer to fight Mayweather at 135 by demanding a $10 million purse to make the fight.
If Mayweather, in his prime at 135, had fought Duran in his prime at 135, Mayweather would have beaten him easily and very likely would have KO'd him. Comparing him to SRL or Thomas Hearns is baseless because both these fighters started their careers at 147 while Mayweather moved up to 147 and didn't carry his power with him. And to make it worse, the clowns who do this compare the 36 and 37-year old Mayweather to the 25-26 year old SRL and Thomas Hearns and make ridiculous statements about how Mayweather is not as good.
You are damn right Mayweather is not as good at 147 as SRL and Hearns were. That is because Mayweather started at 130 and moved up. SRL and Thomas Hearns at 147, but both fought at 168 and 175 at one point in their careers. No one is comparing them to Andre Ward and Roy Jones, who started their careers at those respective weights.
This entire argument is idiotic and baseless. Unfortunately, I have seen it on this message board at least 100 times and will see it another 100 times before Mayweather retires.
Thank you for having common sense.
People that are overlooking this is pure proof that they have VERY LITTLE or NO boxing knowledge.
How could you compare a 37 year old boxer that moved up five divisions and CLEARLY is a shadow of his former self, to young 24-25 year old ATGs in their prime division?
At 130 he was a beast and KOd damn near everyone he fought.
The man was(is nearly still)boxing perfection.
How can you defeat perfection?
Who's to say what would happen, or if any of these ATGs would've even seen the final bell against Floyd?
Action speaks louder than words and skills speak for themselves,
The man made me a believer a long time ago and has never showed me anything to make me doubt.
Only his age is breaking him down because no fighter ever has.
And he's still undefeated!!!
At 37 years of age...
Fought the most World Champions of ANY ATG in history...
Duran said Floyd was the sole reason that the Pacquiao fight wasn't happening, trust me if you do enough research you'll realize that Duran is one if the biggest Floyd haters.
Pacquiao is not an outstanding fighter he was on steroids if everyone was on what he was on well................ we all saw what happened in the 4th fight ( I'm already fully red k'd up I don't care).
And you're contradicting yourself even if Floyd beat Pacquiao he'd never, according to your logic, beaten a fighter like Leonard or Duran so how could you even compare them.
Oscar and Mosley would never beat Floyd those fights clearly show that they were outboxed. Oscar wasn't past prime and Mosley was good enough to compete with him.
Lol what an idiot, unbelievable. Pac was an ATG before he ever went up to welter. He may have been on PEDs, so are most elite boxers including Floyd probably.
It's in your blood.Here is your new word for the day: TANGENT. Go look it up and make sure you are "on" it. What little brains you have are obviously turbo ADD. You are all over the place like a chicken with its head cut off.
You mean these highly skilled boxers, these world champions, these multi division conquerors. Oh you must mean the great Dirk Diggler UK who shut out a prime Roy Jones Jr then stopped him in the 12th.
Oh ok then my bad big man.
Where's your title then. Post a picture.
You mean these highly skilled boxers, these world champions, these multi division conquerors. Oh you must mean the great Dirk Diggler UK who shut out a prime Roy Jones Jr then stopped him in the 12th.
Oh ok then my bad big man.Obviously your brain is quite fried because Jones has nothing to do with Leonard, Hearns, Duran, or Mayweather. Jones was not shut out, nor was he stopped against Cal. Just say no to drugs.
Hey dumba$$, I was also a fan of Floyd's for 10 years and at one point I hated Duran. Go ahead and put up a poll on who would win and there would be a lot of people Picking Duran, not just me. Your little mindless pointing out of Gamboa and Pac would have nothing to do with the fact that I am not the only one who would pick Duran. Leave child, you are dismissed. Go.
Are you white?
Hey dumba$$, I was also a fan of Floyd's for 10 years and at one point I hated Duran. Go ahead and put up a poll on who would win and there would be a lot of people Picking Duran, not just me. Your little mindless pointing out of Gamboa and Pac would have nothing to do with the fact that I am not the only one who would pick Duran. Leave child, you are dismissed. Go.
You mean these highly skilled boxers, these world champions, these multi division conquerors. Oh you must mean the great Dirk Diggler UK who shut out a prime Roy Jones Jr then stopped him in the 12th.
Oh ok then my bad big man.
You insinuated that Mayweather would of lost to Duran had they eventually met at lightweight and you're a fan of Pacquiao and Gamboa put the dots together and realise your a mook.Hey dumba$$, I was also a fan of Floyd's for 10 years and at one point I hated Duran. Go ahead and put up a poll on who would win and there would be a lot of people Picking Duran, not just me. Your little mindless pointing out of Gamboa and Pac would have nothing to do with the fact that I am not the only one who would pick Duran. Leave child, you are dismissed. Go.
Obviously a newbie like you has no ability to debate what I said. You've been owned and it took nothing to own you. This has nothing to do with Gamboa, dumbsht.
You insinuated that Mayweather would of lost to Duran had they eventually met at lightweight and you're a fan of Pacquiao and Gamboa put the dots together and realise your a mook.
Coming from a Gamboa fan I'm not suprised by anything you've said.Obviously a newbie like you has no ability to debate what I said. You've been owned and it took nothing to own you. This has nothing to do with Gamboa, dumbsht.
Actually, Floyd would not be able to make demands. He would be something of a star below welterweight but at welterweight, Leonard, Hearns, Duran would be calling the shots once Mayweather stepped into 147. He would get whet they decide to give him and it would not be enough to buy all those HO's he has around him and the rent-a-relationship folks he has around him. He would be living a modest, humble life in the shadows of those superstars.
Coming from a Gamboa fan I'm not suprised by anything you've said.
We would be blaming all these fighters on why they don't bend over to Floyd's demands.Actually, Floyd would not be able to make demands. He would be something of a star below welterweight but at welterweight, Leonard, Hearns, Duran would be calling the shots once Mayweather stepped into 147. He would get what they decide to give him and it would not be enough to buy all those HO's he has around him and the rent-a-relationship folks he has around him. He would be living a modest, humble life in the shadows of those superstars.
If Mayweather, in his prime at 135, had fought Duran in his prime at 135, Mayweather would have beaten him easily and very likely would have KO'd him. Log off, you have lost all credibility. Your entire imaged wiped out with one sentence.
I think Mayweather gimped himself. He's so particular with who he fights and negotiations and that you cant really tell if he completely outclassed the guy or just got boosted by some advantages. I think he wins versus many simply because he is pretty damn good now and hes not even truely tested. at least not lately.
tldr, he cherry picks. if he fought a legit threat, he will rise to the occasion. all atgs do.