Now don't get me wrong. I am all for the safety of fighters. Without a doubt I want to make sure that all necessary precautions are taken to avoid fighters taking unnecessary punishment.
That said however I can see some justification for the doghouse (ie. mayweather boxing gym). I think that sparring with longer rounds can be useful. I do think that hard sparring can be useful. I may dislike mayweather as a person but I will admit he helps a lot of fighters. Ishe smith is one of the best examples. The doghouse at least gives him an indication of who could be a useful sparring partner and can also promote respect between sparring partners. Those who succeed in the doghouse do get some great benefits. While love was protected he was paid large sums of money. Many would flock to the gym for a boost in their career.
But I would say also that the doghouse takes things too far. While long sparring rounds are good they should be done in moderation. 30 mins of continues sparring doesn't help because it doesn't simulate any rest between rounds. Also having someone in the ring taunting you as you spar is just disrespectful. I was disgusted as they cheered and taunted an 18 year old kid getting wrecked by a pro. And while these sessions can sometimes promote respect they can also promote animosity, as seen by rahman's older brother. People getting knocked out in sparring does nothing to help them. The occasional schooling helps but hard sparring should only be done between two guys of equal experience.
also stuff that happens all the time at these types of events. its pat of the culture. ppl seem to think its a mayweather thing, but no. its a boxing thing.
Oh ok then. Didn't know that. I understand 2 experienced fighters doing that.... But that first kid looked young (inexperienced) so I naturally think if he were to spar someone he would spar for 3 mins and go to his corner. Then his trainer would say your doing this wrong, when he does this do this, watch for his...etc etc but no break you won't get that. You get me??
I didn't think the sparring sessions were bad.....but the atmosphere surrounding it was. The noise, banging on the ring floor, taunting, gambling.....that's the part I thought was wrong!
also stuff that happens all the time at these types of events. its pat of the culture. ppl seem to think its a mayweather thing, but no. its a boxing thing.
Yes and it's sad to see but he's a grown man and chose his own path. I'm just saying that sparring sessions like those seen on All Access aren't unusual so I don't really understand why some people seem to be shocked.
I didn't think the sparring sessions were bad.....but the atmosphere surrounding it was. The noise, banging on the ring floor, taunting, gambling.....that's the part I thought was wrong!
and here he is brain damaged
Yes and it's sad to see but he's a grown man and chose his own path. I'm just saying that sparring sessions like those seen on All Access aren't unusual so I don't really understand why some people seem to be shocked.
The sparring with the 18 year old kid wasn't that serious! If you watch closely, the older more experienced boxer pulls the majority of his punches while the kids is defenseless and exhuasted. Maybe next time the kid will learn to stay in his place until he can back up his sh*t talking.
The other sparring sessions were rough but so is this sport! Thoses types of gym wars aren't uncommon, I've seen plenty in person and can recall many professionals tell stories of similar incidents. Believe it or not strong fighters do emerge from that type of training, James Toney is the first that comes to mind.
That type of training isn't for everyone but if they like it then who we to complain?
and here he is brain damaged
The sparring with the 18 year old kid wasn't that serious! If you watch closely, the older more experienced boxer pulls the majority of his punches while the kids is defenseless and exhuasted. Maybe next time the kid will learn to stay in his place until he can back up his sh*t talking.
The other sparring sessions were rough but so is this sport! Thoses types of gym wars aren't uncommon, I've seen plenty in person and can recall many professionals tell stories of similar incidents. Believe it or not strong fighters do emerge from that type of training, James Toney is the first that comes to mind.
That type of training isn't for everyone but if they like it then who we to complain?