Logically Cotto would lose to Lara. Trout had no problem beating Cotto and Lara is a slick southpaw similar to Trout only better with more speed and power. Canelo deserves lots of credit for edging Lara out in a close fight. Canelo is probably the only 154 pounder who can beat Lara. Lara is not someone who Cotto would fight anyway because he is very high risk and low reward money wise.
So by this rationale, the Cotto that we're talking about facing Lara is the one from the Trout fight?
Have you seen nothing since then that improves your opinion of current Cotto?
If you answer "no", I see the logic of your position though I may disagree.
After that fight I thought he'd hang em' up. I thought he looked like he didn't train hard for that fight and that he was done. To give credit where it's due, Cotto seems to have benefitted from his association with Roach.
In addition, the Trout that beat Cotto is looking like a peak Trout about now.
And I think El Perro and Canelo put some hard miles on Lara as well.
I'll take current Cotto over current Trout and Lara, though I admit some possible wishful thinking in my figurings.
LOL man bro you always gotta pull out the excuse book.
"lara had a tooth infection doe, He was tired, The ring was small"
:haha: how in da fck was that ring small? and lara doesnt rehydrate more than 10 pounds I thought anyways, so whats the big deal???
Lara just isnt that good man, as bad as you want him to be on rigo's level he never will be and never was. Lara is hype
Molina would beat him AGAIN and vanes would probably beat him tooboy there not excuses it is what it is, if lara is that bad then canelo is a piece of $h1t, it was well documented that it was a small ring and a slow mat, everyone know they didn't let lara go over 10 pounds, even if he doesn't go over naturally they put pressure on the fighter while his adversary doesn't have to worry, mind games are a big deal in any sport and life, you probably were not a fan when he fought molina but, the fight was on and off because the couldn't find anyone until molina step up, by then shields was with Rigondeaux in Ireland and the fight was almost cancel again because laras illness, now if you want to believe that red ridding hood is an atg just be happy with that thought, putting down other fighters doesn't make your idol great, I know you had read my post regarding lara-ginger so Fvck off...
That seems likely, we all know those Puerto Rican pussboys don't want to fight the main threat of the division :lol1:
Just like your boy Stevenson, you really shouldn't comment.
Cotto vs. Rod Salka's bigger brother Tod Salka at a 157 CW.
That seems likely, we all know those Puerto Rican pussboys don't want to fight the main threat of the division :lol1:
Lara's reach is 75in while Cotto's is 67in. If Lara boxes Cotto from the outside like Trout did and stays away from trading with him, he has a good chance of beating him.
that D fighter can punch, if you get caught by a perros punch you are either going down or start dancing, you seems to avoid the obvoius and that's why did he got caught? First the ring was smallest than a phone booth, the mat was filled with foam, he had a 10 pounds rehydration clause while perro never got the memo, put all together and that's your recipe for disaster and the two rounds perro won, beating poor Lara is a bit of a strecht...
LOL man bro you always gotta pull out the excuse book.
"lara had a tooth infection doe, He was tired, The ring was small"
:haha: how in da fck was that ring small? and lara doesnt rehydrate more than 10 pounds I thought anyways, so whats the big deal???
Lara just isnt that good man, as bad as you want him to be on rigo's level he never will be and never was. Lara is hype
Molina would beat him AGAIN and vanes would probably beat him too
Lara was hurt badly, twice, by a D class fighter. He got scared sh*tless against a B level fighter in Canelo. Put him in there against a A class fighter and he'll be diving out of the ring like Quintana.
that D fighter can punch, if you get caught by a perros punch you are either going down or start dancing, you seems to avoid the obvoius and that's why did he got caught? First the ring was smallest than a phone booth, the mat was filled with foam, he had a 10 pounds rehydration clause while perro never got the memo, put all together and that's your recipe for disaster and the two rounds perro won, beating poor Lara is a bit of a strecht...
Lara gifted that W to Canelo. Unlike Canelo, Cotto infinitely higher ring IQ would make Lara EZ work...
just like in the trout fight... but dont worry cotto wont fight that type of challenge next, he is more interested on another ¨soft touch¨, you know like delvin rodriguez or something like that...
I think Lara's vastly overrated, he was getting beat up by Alfredo ****in Angulo for gods sake. He's very beatable if he actually decides to fight and not run.
Agreed!!!! EXTREMELY overrated!!!!! He always under performs, and as soon as Canelo started going to the body he started running the marathon!!!!
He's not. He was. I'm not throwing any type of nuthuggery. Cotto is not prime anymore. Also if Canelo were to beat Cotto, he shouldn't get all the credit because of that, Cotto is not prime. Cotto is not a very very good boxer, he's good but not very very good. I think Canelo has a decent ring IQ, although Cotto is much better at cutting the ring and Canelo is a better counterpuncher.
Cotto's counter punching is better than Canelo's... his timing on it is certainly better its how he hurts guys with a jab, even drops them. Gomez, Clottey and even Martinez, while not actually hitting the canvas did get caught in the 9th with that counter jab. Canelo has more power and a better chin than Cotto and that's the only advantage he has. I also ago that Cotto isn't what he used to be, but he is the best he has been since the Mosley fight, and in the process has gotten smarter. Sometimes an old veteran is better than a physically prime fighter, in this case it will be no different.
Cotto would beat Lara, that style will never beat Cotto unless your name is Floyd Mayweather. Regarding Trout, I think that was a combination of a bad night and Trout wisely using his physical advantages. I personally don't consider Trout a good pure boxer, more of a guy who's good at spamming punches all night. I honestly think a rematch would look completely different.
Cotto is better than Canelo now. Cotto is probably too high for some people, but I also admit I'm a little biased toward him but I'm not throwing out fanboy or nuthugger like you are every two seconds. You like to claim I'm a nuthugger, but when I make predictions I'm fair, straight forward. Canelo has no ring IQ and is easily frustrated which throws him off, Cotto will expose that because he is a very, very good boxer. As for Trout I can't explain it anymore, we can have differing opinion but one bad loss to a boxer doesn't wipe an entire career of wiping the floor with them.
He's not. He was. I'm not throwing any type of nuthuggery. Cotto is not prime anymore. Also if Canelo were to beat Cotto, he shouldn't get all the credit because of that, Cotto is not prime. Cotto is not a very very good boxer, he's good but not very very good. I think Canelo has a decent ring IQ, although Cotto is much better at cutting the ring and Canelo is a better counterpuncher.
Because it's the truth. It was a good chess match at the beginning. Funny thing is Canelo isn't even one of my top 3 favorite boxers currently. Top it off you have Cotto in the top 5 P4P which is incredibly hilarious considering you're calling me biased. Canelo won the fight in a close one, Cotto didn't. Like I said if Cotto were to fight Lara, he will most likely do better than Canelo but it doesn't mean he's better. STYLES MAKES FIGHTS!! A prime Cotto was but this version, not really. That's not me being biased dude.
Cotto is better than Canelo now. Cotto is probably too high for some people, but I also admit I'm a little biased toward him but I'm not throwing out fanboy or nuthugger like you are every two seconds. You like to claim I'm a nuthugger, but when I make predictions I'm fair, straight forward. Canelo has no ring IQ and is easily frustrated which throws him off, Cotto will expose that because he is a very, very good boxer. As for Trout I can't explain it anymore, we can have differing opinion but one bad loss to a boxer doesn't wipe an entire career of wiping the floor with them.
You say Floyd only outclassed Canelo the second half of the fight yet say I have fanboy love, that's funny. Cotto landed way more punches and body shots against Trout than Canelo did on Floyd but Canelo gets ATG points for landing a half punch the whole fight. You throw around the word fanboy and are aside from the fl*mo's the most biased guy in this forum lol.
Because it's the truth. It was a good chess match at the beginning. Funny thing is Canelo isn't even one of my top 3 favorite boxers currently. Top it off you have Cotto in the top 5 P4P which is incredibly hilarious considering you're calling me biased. Canelo won the fight in a close one, Cotto didn't. Like I said if Cotto were to fight Lara, he will most likely do better than Canelo but it doesn't mean he's better. STYLES MAKES FIGHTS!! A prime Cotto was but this version, not really. That's not me being biased dude.
He was. Take the fanboy love that you have for him out of the picture. Dude got outclassed. Mayweather outclassed Canelo on the second half of the fight, he started to run too much and he got hit by some body shots that people seem to still forget to see.
Cotto just couldn't do anything against Trout. Could a different trainer would of made a difference? Maybe a bad night/gameplan? Who knows!
You say Floyd only outclassed Canelo the second half of the fight yet say I have fanboy love, that's funny. Cotto landed way more punches and body shots against Trout than Canelo did on Floyd but Canelo gets ATG points for landing a half punch the whole fight. You throw around the word fanboy and are aside from the fl*mo's the most biased guy in this forum lol.
When people say "most people thought Canelo lost to Lara" what are they basing this off of???
a poll was made between all 9 lara fans, and lara was the winner...