Can you name the best 5 victories for Mexico in the last 10 years. Legacy wise or just a Big upset.
Maybe can be like:
- Marquez KO over Pacman
- Margarito TKO over Cotto
- Segura over Calderon
???????
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What's up Kermit!
never saw I even heard of that video. and Cotto himself said nobody was there or atleast his trainer evangelista wasn't present on one of the 24/7 episodes. So that's bs till I see be video or read a quote or something from evangelista. And having your hands wrapped a certain way even if it is illegal in some states it's totally different from having plaster wraps. You know that right???? Tito wasn't even suspended after like Margarito was. Trainers make other fighters re wrap their hands all the time too. And the reasons you give are bs. He's a pressure fighter ok, why did he decide to cheat vs Mosley??? How does tht cross his mind after destroying Cotto??? Why would he need that to win now??? You just can't let go of tht win. You talk crap about us but I'm sure you celebrated and enjoyed that win and just refuse to let it go after it became tainted
I have and have no reason to lie. I tried looking for it earlier again, even went as far as searched my view history on youtube, no success. I know it's out there. Different or not, it's still ILLEGAL. Illegal = cheater. It's not bs reasons. They are very logical reasons. I don't know why he tried to cheat vs Mosley but I do know he didn't cheat vs Cotto. I can let go of any win as easy as a loss. Like I said, logic clearly points more in favor of Margarito. Same reason why I give Tito credit for beating Vargas. It's not tainted to me and millions of other people.
Logical... BWAHAHA!!! Logic would tell you if he had red dye on his wraps, without ever putting a glove on he used them before. Take the picture after the Cotto fight where the dye is in the exact same spot and logically he used the same wraps. When he said "I didn't feel anything different with the wraps in the Mosley fight compared to the wraps I had against Cotto." Logic once again would tell you that he doesn't even know himself, so how would you? I'm afraid you don't even know what logic actually means. That isn't exactly surprising though.
*Facepalm* You do realize plaster is a hard substance right? Why would a hard substance fold so nice in a picture? Plaster is not a flexible material you neanderthal. You do realize it doesn't necessarily mean he used it in the Cotto fight? We can play the logic game, you will lose. I guarantee it!
Guys, Take it easy on Chicano aka Mr. Fantastic. He's a very emotional individual. That "Win" means alot to him.
Says the guy with a Margarito sig. Lawl!!! Business is done, well if it is done, move on sucka.
I love how you bring up extra tape, and cast-making material. It's like a guy putting a workout glove in bare-knuckle fight and another guy using brass knuckles. Not even comparible but I understand Margacheato fans just can't logically come to this conclusion. It's like Floyd trying to read, just not possible.
Plaster is not a flexible material. Putting it in there twice.
And idk why Mexicans compare Tito to Tony so much. Tony plaster, Tito legal wraps in other states illegal in NYC. Plaster not legal anywhere! Tito no suspension, Tony??? suspended! Lol
A lot of Mexicans like Tito from my experience, just that they see the hypocrisy with Puerto Ricans when it comes to cheating. I bet if Resto were to be really good, you guys would defend him to the death. What Tito did was illegal, no way to sugar coat it.
The same reason why Mosley didn't get suspended, POLITICS.
And idk why Mexicans compare Tito to Tony so much. Tony plaster, Tito legal wraps in other states illegal in NYC. Plaster not legal anywhere! Tito no suspension, Tony??? suspended! Lol
Here's a bottle for the Wrapidad fans, :bottle:. It's okay for Wrapidad, but not for Margacheato, :smashfrea.
I only like Margarito a little bit because the Puerto Ricans hate his guts for making their God bow down and take a knee, :lol1:.
http://www.onelittlevoice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/miguel_cottomargarito.jpg
Hearing a Mexican acknowledge Tony as a Margacheato is beautiful. Most of ya know he's a scumbag. Lol
Cuz theirs a difference between opinion, and obviousness.
Marquez no VADA = downing Alvarado. Marquez with VADA = every punch kissed Bradley.
WE all know what Manny can do with VADA around. (he rocked Bradley with a jab that sent him to the ropes).
its funny how 2014 is huh guys... MANNY PERFORMS WELL UNDER RBT, MARQUEZ DOESN'T. roll of the dice huh. :kiss:
Manny didn't do vada with Bradley....he did the regular Nevada commission testing.....it was Bradley who did the real ost's with vada. PACfraud did vada with rios but rios is such a bum ass fighter that it didn't matter if pacroid was juicing or not, PAC whoops rios' ass roids or no roids. Pacroid needed his juice for Bradley so he ducked the ost's for that fight lmao. Now that he's fighting an espn fighter, he needs his roids. Why do you think he loves china so much now. Pacroid's new motto is 'No taxes, no testing!'
Here's a bottle for the Wrapidad fans, :bottle:. It's okay for Wrapidad, but not for Margacheato, :smashfrea.
I only like Margarito a little bit because the Puerto Ricans hate his guts for making their God bow down and take a knee, :lol1:.
http://www.onelittlevoice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/miguel_cottomargarito.jpg
I love how you bring up extra tape, and cast-making material. It's like a guy putting a workout glove in bare-knuckle fight and another guy using brass knuckles. Not even comparible but I understand Margacheato fans just can't logically come to this conclusion. It's like Floyd trying to read, just not possible.
lol, that twat cheated too, he came in overweight and threw a multitude of low-blows
I agree with you sir and i thought it was a draw but he should have known that and what did he do? He gave rounds away, at multiple times he backed straight up and let Salido tee off on him while he was on the ropes. To a lesser extent he did it again against Russell Jr as well, not sure if he wants to "lose" against lesser fighters again...
You have every right to think what you think, I'm just telling you that you're wrong. Not because I think so but because of logical reasons. It just points a lot more in Margarito's direction of not cheating. Only one paragraph? Shit I can write you a book lol. I can give you reason after reason after reason. It just doesn't add up. You're just living on the "biggest fight" logic without looking at the DETAILS.
Margarito was exposed attempting to cheat, just like Tito Trinidad, I'm not trying to change the subject but you guys never seem to point in Tito's direction because of his flag.
Logical... BWAHAHA!!! Logic would tell you if he had red dye on his wraps, without ever putting a glove on he used them before. Take the picture after the Cotto fight where the dye is in the exact same spot and logically he used the same wraps. When he said "I didn't feel anything different with the wraps in the Mosley fight compared to the wraps I had against Cotto." Logic once again would tell you that he doesn't even know himself, so how would you? I'm afraid you don't even know what logic actually means. That isn't exactly surprising though.
Because it's the mfing truth. People like to point fingers while denying their own. It's like Mexicans that like to point fingers but yet praise Salido, who is a cheater.
Legal in some places or not, it was ILLEGAL IN NY, where he fought several times before getting caught. But anyways, back to Margarito.
I gave you some simple ones, I shouldn't even continue if you can't even start seeing how pressure fighters work. Cotto would be having health issues if he was a man beaten by plaster. You also failed to realize that the fight was in a different state, different commission, different inspectors, and his trainer was there to see Margarito get wrapped. Evangelista even said in a video(mysteriously got deleted off youtube) that he saw nothing wrong with his wraps. That throws anything criminal out the window.
You're living a lie dude. Maybe if Margarito didn't make Cotto quit in the fight, you guys would probably be less angered. It's like your girlfriend dumping you and you wish nothing but the worst cause she broke your heart. That's how I see Cotto fans.
never saw I even heard of that video. and Cotto himself said nobody was there or atleast his trainer evangelista wasn't present on one of the 24/7 episodes. So that's bs till I see be video or read a quote or something from evangelista. And having your hands wrapped a certain way even if it is illegal in some states it's totally different from having plaster wraps. You know that right???? Tito wasn't even suspended after like Margarito was. Trainers make other fighters re wrap their hands all the time too. And the reasons you give are bs. He's a pressure fighter ok, why did he decide to cheat vs Mosley??? How does tht cross his mind after destroying Cotto??? Why would he need that to win now??? You just can't let go of tht win. You talk crap about us but I'm sure you celebrated and enjoyed that win and just refuse to let it go after it became tainted
You have every right to think what you think, I'm just telling you that you're wrong. Not because I think so but because of logical reasons. It just points a lot more in Margarito's direction of not cheating. Only one paragraph? Shit I can write you a book lol. I can give you reason after reason after reason. It just doesn't add up. You're just living on the "biggest fight" logic without looking at the DETAILS.
Margarito was exposed attempting to cheat, just like Tito Trinidad, I'm not trying to change the subject but you guys never seem to point in Tito's direction because of his flag.
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You always bring up Tito or Shane when ever ppl talk about Margarito. Tito's wraps were legal in some places. Tonys Wraps are almost criminal bro. And you never gave me any reasons as to why he chose to become a cheater after the biggest win of his life. It's Danny usin plaster wraps for Salka but not Matthysse. That would make zero sense.
Because it's the mfing truth. People like to point fingers while denying their own. It's like Mexicans that like to point fingers but yet praise Salido, who is a cheater.
Legal in some places or not, it was ILLEGAL IN NY, where he fought several times before getting caught. But anyways, back to Margarito.
I gave you some simple ones, I shouldn't even continue if you can't even start seeing how pressure fighters work. Cotto would be having health issues if he was a man beaten by plaster. You also failed to realize that the fight was in a different state, different commission, different inspectors, and his trainer was there to see Margarito get wrapped. Evangelista even said in a video(mysteriously got deleted off youtube) that he saw nothing wrong with his wraps. That throws anything criminal out the window.
You're living a lie dude. Maybe if Margarito didn't make Cotto quit in the fight, you guys would probably be less angered. It's like your girlfriend dumping you and you wish nothing but the worst cause she broke your heart. That's how I see Cotto fans.
You have every right to think what you think, I'm just telling you that you're wrong. Not because I think so but because of logical reasons. It just points a lot more in Margarito's direction of not cheating. Only one paragraph? Shit I can write you a book lol. I can give you reason after reason after reason. It just doesn't add up. You're just living on the "biggest fight" logic without looking at the DETAILS.
Margarito was exposed attempting to cheat, just like Tito Trinidad, I'm not trying to change the subject but you guys never seem to point in Tito's direction because of his flag.
You always bring up Tito or Shane when ever ppl talk about Margarito. Tito's wraps were legal in some places. Tonys Wraps are almost criminal bro. And you never gave me any reasons as to why he chose to become a cheater after the biggest win of his life. It's Danny usin plaster wraps for Salka but not Matthysse. That would make zero sense.
I could write a long ass paragraph but I know it's gonna be all for nothing. You believe what u believe. I ain't mad at u bruh. Margarito though is a fraud IMO and was exposed to be a cheater. No one has giving me a good reason or explanation for why he decided to become a cheater after the winning the biggest fight of his life.
You have every right to think what you think, I'm just telling you that you're wrong. Not because I think so but because of logical reasons. It just points a lot more in Margarito's direction of not cheating. Only one paragraph? Shit I can write you a book lol. I can give you reason after reason after reason. It just doesn't add up. You're just living on the "biggest fight" logic without looking at the DETAILS.
Margarito was exposed attempting to cheat, just like Tito Trinidad, I'm not trying to change the subject but you guys never seem to point in Tito's direction because of his flag.
Let go? If I had any doubt in my mind, I would tell you. The rematch shed some light on the first fight(plus I saw it live). Maybe if the rematch were to of never happened and showed me lots of things, I would probably be more on the 50/50 side. You need to watch more videos from pressure fighters in big fights. Hell even Cotto's fights, you can see how he systematically breaks em down little by little.
I could write a long ass paragraph but I know it's gonna be all for nothing. You believe what u believe. I ain't mad at u bruh. Margarito though is a fraud IMO and was exposed to be a cheater. No one has giving me a good reason or explanation for why he decided to become a cheater after the winning the biggest fight of his life.
You just refuse to let go of that win. That's what it is. You say I don't want that feeling of defeat when it's you who doesn't want to lose that victory. I understand.
Let go? If I had any doubt in my mind, I would tell you. The rematch shed some light on the first fight(plus I saw it live). Maybe if the rematch were to of never happened and showed me lots of things, I would probably be more on the 50/50 side. You need to watch more videos from pressure fighters in big fights. Hell even Cotto's fights, you can see how he systematically breaks em down little by little.
Marquez-Pacquiao IV
Morales-Pacquiao I
Margarito-Cotto I
Segura-Calderon
Salido-Lopez
I think you got it right.
Montiel and Gonzalez over Hasegawa and Estrada over the great (imo) Viloria are excellent wins too.
What makes you think he fought dirty in the first fight?
You could see it in the second fight, in the last round Cotto was starting to get hurt, he does that little dance where he almost shuffles his feet everytime he gets hurt and needs to clear his head. Margarito got Cotto to that point in the last round, AND he only landed half of what he did on the first fight.
Just look at the 9th round, you'll see what i mentioned above. starts at 35:50, notice the way Cotto slumps to his corner.
Cotto was going to have three hard rounds left to fight, his legs were going, getting stuck on the ropes. Could've played out like the first, in those last three rounds.
That tells me there isn't a difference, only thing that changed was strategy, and even that was failing towards the end.
How did that fight end again?
What makes you think he fought dirty in the first fight?
You could see it in the second fight, in the last round Cotto was starting to get hurt, he does that little dance where he almost shuffles his feet everytime he gets hurt and needs to clear his head. Margarito got Cotto to that point in the last round, AND he only landed half of what he did on the first fight.
Just look at the 9th round, you'll see what i mentioned above. starts at 35:50, notice the way Cotto slumps to his corner.
Cotto was going to have three hard rounds left to fight, his legs were going, getting stuck on the ropes. Could've played out like the first, in those last three rounds.
That tells me there isn't a difference, only thing that changed was strategy, and even that was failing towards the end.
Cuz he got caught trying to cheat in his very next fight. And it makes no sense that he beat up Cotto without anything and then becomes a cheater. I can see your point but Margarito doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me. Why would he cheat vs Mosley and not Cotto???