Let's say Tyson never entered boxing and had just lead a regular life. He never did any muscle training but still stayed in a healthy condition. What do you think he would weighed between the ages of 20 and 30?
The reason I ask is because people tend not to take Mike's weight disadvantage against most opponents into consideration when assessing him. Mike came into the ring heavily bulked up. Proportionately, Tyson put on more muscle than the vast majority of boxers.
I think Mike's natural weight would have been as little as 185 lbs at 20 to 195 lbs at 30.
Mikes best weight was between 215/230lbs for his height and build.
The guy was barely 5'11 all that excess weight would have been hampering his in ring ability rather than improve any aspect of his game.
Lifting weights does not necessarily help your punching power that much at all.
Wrong. Go watch Manny Pacquiao/JMM 4. You can clearly hear RJJ say on commentary "And this is where the weight lifting will help with Marquez's power."
You people need to get with the times. People used to say all the time in baseball that lifting weights was bad for you. Then all of the sudden, guys like Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire, etc. came along. Don't kid yourself, lifting weights will DRAMATICALLY increase punching power. Again, just look at the 4th fight between JMM and Manny Pacquiao.
Problem is, carrying around too much muscle isn't good for endurance.
http://sports-kings.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mike033.jpg
Look at him at this picture, he weight 210-215 lbs, how much do you think he weight when he not training?? look at his neck how much weight do you think in his neck alone??
Natural weight 250? LOLOLOL 25% body fat doesn't equal natural weight.
Ok then, let's not exaggerate anything then. His natural size is STILL going to be something around 230 isn't it right?
I mean, at 215 he was so ripped and conditioned that THAT was also nothing near his usual weight too.
Some idiot above is trying to say Mike's natural weight was LESS than his competition weight.
Mike's most effective weight is difficult to assess. At rthe time he is generally credited with being prime he was 215. Or sometimes up to 220. 215-220 seems to be his optimum weight.
Mike NEVER weighed 200lbs in a professional boxing match ever. I dunno what some crack heads are smoking here!
And his "natural" weight would have been about 250lbs or something. Mike was a tank!
Sure, he did some muscle work, but he was no weight lifter, he did mainly calisthenics and stuff. His muscles were mainly a result of his natural build. Mike was simply a tank!
Natural weight 250? LOLOLOL 25% body fat doesn't equal natural weight.
Mike Tyson never enters a boxing and his natural weight is....totally dependent upon how much he chooses to eat. he could be anywhere from 185 to 230. This isn't really an answerable question. Though. I'd think, no training, just chillin, going to work and maybe drinking occasionally he'd probably be around 225, with a soft(fat) mid section and big muscular arms.
But this would depend on lifestyle choices.
I think Tyson was just a very muscular guy. I never heard that he bulked up with heavy weight lifting like Holyfield. I think his natural fighting weight was the 220 pounds he fought at. Look at him now as a middle aged vegan who doesn't train or lift weights. He is still a big muscular man weighing about 250 pounds. He is short but very thick with huge legs, arms and shoulders.
I don't know if he did steroids, (although I would assume he did at some point.) but I've heard plenty of people claim that he was on a "check drop" during the 2nd Holyfield fight, and that caused him to go psycho.
And once again, let me reiterate: Mike Tyson CLEARLY lifted weights. Maybe not all that extensively, but you can bet sure as day that he lifted weights. I've seen videos of him. Same with Evander Holyfield. Where do you think these guys get there explosiveness from? Squats and lifts like the clean and jerk will certainly help.
Someone like Lennox Lewis though, I doubt lifted weights all that much.
Lifting weights does not necessarily help your punching power that much at all. Plyo work sure but heavy weight lifting type stuff is only ever done bty a boxer near the beginning of their preparation.
Evander Holyfield of course was a pioneer for using an extensive weightlifting routine. Please note that compared to the general division, Evander was NOT a particularly hard puncher!
Tyson lifted SOME weights, he did shrugs routinely and calhisthenics mainly. Occasionally lifted other weights sure. But he did not achieve his body through weightlifting like Evander did. His muscular build was mostly natural.
Mike is a natural HW.
Evander is a natural CW, build up to a HW.
I never knew Tyson never lifted. Didnt he admit to using steroids. I know he was on cocaine especially before the Douglas fight.
I hope Im not assassinating Mikes character. I like Tyson. Im proud that he has turned his life around
I don't know if he did steroids, (although I would assume he did at some point.) but I've heard plenty of people claim that he was on a "check drop" during the 2nd Holyfield fight, and that caused him to go psycho.
And once again, let me reiterate: Mike Tyson CLEARLY lifted weights. Maybe not all that extensively, but you can bet sure as day that he lifted weights. I've seen videos of him. Same with Evander Holyfield. Where do you think these guys get there explosiveness from? Squats and lifts like the clean and jerk will certainly help.
Someone like Lennox Lewis though, I doubt lifted weights all that much.
He would often come in the ring under 220 and that was with a lot of added muscle.
The chart at the link below shows the what weight men of various heights should be. Mike Tyson was 5'10. The heaviest a man that height should be is 180 lbs (we're excluding bodybuilding here).
http://www.changingshape.com/calculators/ideal-body-weight/
Shhhh, do you hear that? It's the sound of your credibility flying out the window.
He was 14 here and slimmed down
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/13/article-1220014-00EF2BDF00000191-921_468x361.jpg
He could bench over 200lbs aged 12.
Mike is naturally a very stocky and thick set guy. Even as a young kid he was built like a brick sh*thouse.
He was about 12/13 and very thick and muscular, even then he had a neck as thick as most blokes thighs.
He was meant to be a naturally big guy, huge frame to support all the weight, I have never seen a guy with so much muscle be that fast. I think he fought at his natural weight. Like someone has already mentioned, don't trust those body weight charts, they don't take muscle and frame size into account, furthermore Tyson was a freak of nature.
Haye had to cut weight significantly to make Cruiserweight, while taller he is nowhere near the wide frame of Tyson. Tyson probably would have packed a bit of fat on the already wide frame he has if he wasn't boxing. He would probably be heavier than he weighed during his career. He was always going to be more than 200 pounds.
Some idiot above is trying to say Mike's natural weight was LESS than his competition weight.
Mike's most effective weight is difficult to assess. At rthe time he is generally credited with being prime he was 215. Or sometimes up to 220. 215-220 seems to be his optimum weight.
Mike NEVER weighed 200lbs in a professional boxing match ever. I dunno what some crack heads are smoking here!
And his "natural" weight would have been about 250lbs or something. Mike was a tank!
Sure, he did some muscle work, but he was no weight lifter, he did mainly calisthenics and stuff. His muscles were mainly a result of his natural build. Mike was simply a tank!
He was 200 lbs plus as a teenager. His natural weight was probably 240-250. He had to really work to come in at 222 or less. Mike didn't lift weights. His muscles were a result of his natural powerful build.
Mike blew up to over 300 pounds in retirement before becoming a vegan.
I never knew Tyson never lifted. Didnt he admit to using steroids. I know he was on cocaine especially before the Douglas fight.
I hope Im not assassinating Mikes character. I like Tyson. Im proud that he has turned his life around