The problem with idolising Floyd mayweather

Nowadays a lot of young guys are starting to idolise mayweather. Some will idolise him for his work ethic and his skills. Nothing wrong with that at all. He has one of the best work ethics around. But it seems a lot of people are just attracted to the money and the fame. The guys I see shouting "TBE" are the guys who watch 24/7 and go crazy when they see him with expensive cars and women who he pays to hang around him. Kind of like dan bilzerian. While they praise his work ethic they neglect the fact that he is woefully inactive and has always been pretty inactive. They see him going out to the club and all the glamour bug ignore the fact that mayweather needs an entourage of yes men. Floyd gambles quite a lot, betting millions a year. While he can spend that now will he be able to in 20 years? Maybe. But he lacks the charisma to become a commentator, as many do after retiring. Life someone who always has people around him he seems lonely. A lot of these people would not be with him if he didn't have money. Some young fighters only hang around because of the attention that they would get and fair play to them. No shame in that. But what I'm saying is in reality you would NOT want to be floyd. He's had a history of domestic violence and family problems. He needs people to hang around him to feel loved. Why do you think the women in his life keep trying to leave him? If they were gold diggers then there must be something very wrong for them to leave a guy as rich as floyd. Guys like pac, although grossly overrated by people as well, at least had people who genuinely love him. Even other popular fighters like cotto or donaire, even canelo. They have people who genuinely love and support them like family. Some even are family. Floyd has roger and now his dad but he still needs his yes men. Why? I know some of you may say it's mushy and dumb to talk about training around family members or people you consider family but you need some kind of support. Looking at all the greats there is always someone behind them who supported them. In my opinion these guys who blindly idolise floyd nog for his skills or work ethic but for just being rich need to look at hopkins. Bernard isn't the perfect human being, he knows that, but he is humble enough to tell the truth. There's an interview which recently came up where he says he knew from day one he wasn't as talented as toney or roy jones. Just think about that. Rarely does a fighter, especially an active fighter, openly say that his opponents were more talented. Hopkins preaches physical and mental discipline in the sport, he preaches good work ethic with reasonable rest. He is definitely a wealthy man himself and yes, he even has a little racism in him too. But he is a far cry from floyd. He even passes on advice to other fighters. Ward is good friends and talks about Bernard looking out for him. Floyd can be generous too, look at ishe smith. But looking at Bernard you can't deny now how good he would be at helping young fighters. People will say he is boring and he has very questions kd tactics but he is not by any means a bad man. He doesn't go and make unreasonable demands he just goes in and fights. And even now we see him taking big fights. He doesn't cover an 0 or base his legacy behind if like floyd. TL:DR Floyd is not a good role model, hopkins is

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Oh man, OH MAN. That was tricky to watch. "If you have a black eye you lost." Everything about it: the commentary, the random guy slapping the bag in the background, the blatant disrespect for mosley. The fact that there isn't a coach in that room says it all. Lol I even couldn't watch the whole video. This guy made me feel ashamed for him. As we serbians would say "transfer blama"...

11y ago

Mick6

The only people idolizing Floyd are his haters. You are exactly right. 90% of the people on NSB do nothing more than obsessively spew their hate. It gets very tiresome.

11y ago

Wuckoo

That aside, idiots chanting "TBE!" can be as bloody annoying as the "There's only oooone Ricky Hatton" song. I know fans can express themselves and it makes sport what it is, but man....... (personal bug bear, so no offense intended) B-but we're living in a hatton wonderland. Aren't we? To be honest chanting anything other than the fighters name annoys me lol. I'm worried that the Argentinian "ole ole ole" chant will become a regular thing now. Sometimes it feels like I'm watching football instead of boxing what with all the chants. It 'so great though when you hear like one or tel guys trying to start the hatton Chang but nobody else joins in. The most recent chanting was at the boxing at the commonwealth games. I swear whenever a boxer from Lesotho came on my heart would sink because I knew it would be 12 mins straight of ululating.

11y ago

Marvellous1

11y ago

Wuckoo

Maybe it's the symptom of what I stated earlier. We agree that idolising any famous person, boxer or otherwise isn't really a good idea, but you made the tiny error of singling out Mayweather and those that idolise him (which will draw in both ends of the scale). Here in the UK, I used to try and talk boxing with people who idolised Ricky Hatton because "he seemed like a nice guy to go for a pint of beer with", I kid you not. They were so dead certain he would beat Mayweather when many of them admitted they had never even seen a Mayweather fight, when I asked them. I soon found it was a waste of time talking boxing with people not interested in boxing but trying live vicariously through Hatton. His victory was their victory.......... it's pretty sad really. I have seen the errors of my ways lol. And the hatton. Here in Scotland some guys can't give Crawford props because of what happened with Ricky and they vicariously defended the Beltran robbery. But not on the same level as hatton. Hell, you still hear them chanting every now and then if hatton is in the corner of a fighter.

11y ago

Marvellous1

Obsessive fans of any fighter aren't good. Why aren't you getting this? Maybe it's the symptom of what I stated earlier. We agree that idolising any famous person, boxer or otherwise isn't really a good idea, but you made the tiny error of singling out Mayweather and those that idolise him (which will draw in both ends of the scale). Here in the UK, I used to try and talk boxing with people who idolised Ricky Hatton because "he seemed like a nice guy to go for a pint of beer with", I kid you not. They were so dead certain he would beat Mayweather when many of them admitted they had never even seen a Mayweather fight, when I asked them. I soon found it was a waste of time talking boxing with people not interested in boxing but trying live vicariously through Hatton. His victory was their victory.......... it's pretty sad really.

11y ago

Wuckoo

There must be some kind of PASSWORD finder out because we have seen so many of these threads by posters who suddenly come out of the woodwork after a year of not posting. They all have the same theme-Floyd and his fans bad, us good. Obsessive fans of any fighter aren't good. Why aren't you getting this?

11y ago

The_Big_Dunn

:lol1: :lol1: There must be some kind of PASSWORD finder out because we have seen so many of these threads by posters who suddenly come out of the woodwork after a year of not posting. They all have the same theme-Floyd and his fans bad, us good.

11y ago

radioraheem

11y ago

radioraheem

You are a FAN. Tune in, discuss the performance, discuss fights you'd like to see. You are NOT entitled to anything besides BEING A FAN. Floyd Mayweather Jr doesn't owe you anything. He is not going to help raise your kids. He is not going to do as you please. He is going to do whatever the hell he wants and no one is forcing you to watch. Why can't you guys be just fans? why you guys always gotta take it beyond that? Because they believe they are Gods who are entitled to pass judgement. They have this ideal in their heads of what a fighter 'should' be, despite never being in the ring themselves. He's supposed to not only fight every single fighter on the planet, but he's supposed. And deep down, they hate his success so much, they create threads like this to try to shade that success. But no matter what, they cannot.

11y ago

Wuckoo

Adrien broner is a prime example of the bad influences Floyd brings. Floyd burns $100 bills....broner flushes $20 down the toilet Floyd gets arrested for battery....broner gets arrested for battery as well. Floyd likes to hang out with strippers...broner eats out strippers. To be fair Broner had started to calm down. Broner will eventually mature I think. Remember he's still in his early 20s. If you give anyone that much money at that age then of course he won't spend it properly. He'll mature I'm sure. But if you look at Michael Lockhart on YouTube that's when it becomes a worry.

11y ago

Wuckoo

The problem with idolising Fairweather is that you'll likely turn into an insecure, feather fisted, safety-first closet case that's prone to melodramatic, embarrassing breakdowns in public. Objectively speaking, he is the single worst thing that ever happened to this sport. I liken the negative influence and impact that he's had to the AIDS epidemic. Wow that's a very....extreme view. I may dislike him but he is nowhere near the worst thing that happened in the sport. This is what the poster above and I were discussing. Idolising fighters in general and becoming aggressive towards anyone who appreciates a certain fighters skills is wrong. Floyd may not be stopping guys nowadays but he has good skills and his safety first style has definitely helped him. I don't like his personality but I like his skills.

11y ago

chargerhemi06

11y ago

Ham_Porter

11y ago

Wuckoo

So the point of this thread is to claim anyone who likes another fighter is ok but if you like floyd it's idolizing and bad. All the other fighters groups are friends and family but floyd isn't, his friends only are ther for the money. Ok. Nothing new here. Same old stuff. The point is idolising is bad. Floyd haters just flooded in as well and made it worse. Idolising anyone is bad. If you like floyd for his skills and can discuss him without flaming others then that's good. But if you idolize any boxer it's bad.

11y ago

The_Big_Dunn

11y ago

Wuckoo

That's cool. I understand where you're coming from, but I just feel idolising in general isn't a good thing. If you're happy and secure in yourself, you don't need anyone to validate you, much less a pro boxer. I don't consider myself a better person than another fan of boxing based on who I like watch (I like to watch most of them anyway). Same, it's okay to respect and be inspired by someone but idolisation is worrying. In boxing especially it's better to develop your own style. We won't all have the same skills as roy or floyd. But yeah idolising is kind of worrying.

11y ago

Marvellous1

11y ago

Wuckoo

So, do you only dislike Mayweather idolisers or all of them? The fact is, no one boxer's fanatics are guilty of what you're talking about. So to single out one degrades your point. On this thread alone, people have jumped in and said: "Mayweather fans are......." as if they know them. They generalised in a way that has nothing to do with thee sport of boxing but more to do with their own personal hang-ups. Starting threads like this only adds fuel to the fire and breeds more "non-boxing" flaming. Surely most people here realise that they only know what these people choose to show us. I basically only care about them in the context I know of them...... BOXING. I find it's better to spend my time discussing boxing with like-minded people and ignore the rest. Even discussing this boxer's fans or that boxer's fans out of context of the sport is a waste of time. In other words, rise above it my friend. Lol, I'm starting to see that too! He'll this thread all ready has too many views and now haters and fans alike are flooding in for the reasons you mentioned. I sure as hell won't make another thread even mentioning fanbases now! I dislike idolisers as a whole, as much as Like hopkins I know he isn't as invincible as some make him out to be. Thanks for the advice, I won't be adding any more fuel to the fire. That's probably the last thing I want to do!

11y ago

Marvellous1

Exactly, that's what I'm trying to get at. It's when fans follow someone for their personality rather than skills. The reason why they are a problem is that they jump into civilised discussions and start flaming people who mildly criticise their favourite guy based on skills without actually backing up what they say. I mean you summed it up perfectly. Tyson wasn't the perfect human but some people only like him for his personality back then and not for his skills. Same with floyd and pacquiao. It simply becomes a problem when people use personality as a basis of why someone isn't good at boxinr00g. If someone stated why they think floyd is the best and gave sound reasoning I would be okay but it's the gys who blindly follow a boxer like a celebrity, emotionally invested like you say. It becomes a problem when people start calmly discussing boxing then a ***** or a ******* has to step in and hijack the thread, which then gets dragged into pac/mayweather arguments. So, do you only dislike Mayweather idolisers or all of them? The fact is, no one boxer's fanatics are guilty of what you're talking about. So to single out one degrades your point. On this thread alone, people have jumped in and said: "Mayweather fans are......." as if they know them. They generalised in a way that has nothing to do with thee sport of boxing but more to do with their own personal hang-ups. Starting threads like this only adds fuel to the fire and breeds more "non-boxing" flaming. Surely most people here realise that they only know what these people choose to show us. I basically only care about them in the context I know of them...... BOXING. I find it's better to spend my time discussing boxing with like-minded people and ignore the rest. Even discussing this boxer's fans or that boxer's fans out of context of the sport is a waste of time. In other words, rise above it my friend.

11y ago