What GGG gains if Cotto Vacates his WBC Title? Other Champs?

Whose #2 contender, Ring's or the WBC's? I guess Quillin is Ring's #2 right now. Its not specific to a organization, more than likely people go by the ring mag ranks!

Mayweather is the ring champ at 154. Golovkin can't be the guy who the beat the man, who beat the man, etc..., but he can start a new lineage once Cotto vacates by beating the #2 contender. My bad I meant Mayweather is the lineal at 147 not the ring mag. I agree with the second, but GGG is 32 and they will try to secure him the big $$$. Lucky for him the lineal champ is the 3rd biggest draw in boxing, plus is a fight he more than likely will win. I would like to see GGG beat Quillin first and then take on Ward to see how he handles a great boxers his size!

Mayweather is the ring champ at 154. Golovkin can't be the guy who the beat the man, who beat the man, etc..., but he can start a new lineage once Cotto vacates by beating the #2 contender. Whose #2 contender, Ring's or the WBC's? I guess Quillin is Ring's #2 right now.

No he doesnt, Mayweather is the example of it. Mayweather is the lineal champ at 154, but he isnt the ring mag champ. So GGG can become the ring mag champ but not lineal! Mayweather is the ring champ at 154. Golovkin can't be the guy who the beat the man, who beat the man, etc..., but he can start a new lineage once Cotto vacates by beating the #2 contender.

You're getting worked over semenntics. What's matters is that Cotto is THE champion of the division. Cotto loses his division championship if he moves to another division. It's that it simple. If you don't think GGG can't become lineal champ no matter what, then fine. But Golovkin can't still can't become THE champ while Cotto is there. No he doesnt, Mayweather is the example of it. Mayweather is the lineal champ at 154, but he isnt the ring mag champ. So GGG can become the ring mag champ but not lineal!

The ring magazine don't determine who is the lineal champ! the ring mag determines the ring champ which often is the lineal champ! You're getting worked over semenntics. What's matters is that Cotto is THE champion of the division. Cotto loses his division championship if he moves to another division. It's that it simple. If you don't think GGG can't become lineal champ no matter what, then fine. But Golovkin can't still can't become THE champ while Cotto is there.

Ah right. Anyway, I'm a fan of both fighters. I don't really mind if Cotto doesn't fight Golovkin but imo he should fight an actual MW inside the next 12 months, i.e. defend the belt. If he's not going to defend it inside a year, then vacate. Ohh believe I agree with you, but that's Cotto's leverage he ain't giving it away. It sucks though!

Here's Ring magazine's policy. Rule #2 . All that means he has to announce that he's fighting in another division. Then he loses the title. There's no big mystery. The ring magazine don't determine who is the lineal champ! the ring mag determines the ring champ which often is the lineal champ!

Are you saying Donaire is still the lineal 118 champion then? #1 and #2 contenders must fight. Golovkin and Quillin basically. Cotto would have to retire or not fight in the division for a long long time, this is the reason we don't have many lineal champs! It sucks really! This! :boxing::boxing: I think it revolves around not fighting in the division for 2 years or longer, that's what I have picked up!

Here's Ring magazine's policy. Rule #2 . All that means he has to announce that he's fighting in another division. Then he loses the title. There's no big mystery. There are seven situations in which the Champion can lose his belt: (1) The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion. (2) The Champion moves to another weight class. (3) The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months. (4) The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight). (5) The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years. (6) The Champion retires. (7) The Champion tests positive for a

Cotto would have to retire or not fight in the division for a long long time, this is the reason we don't have many lineal champs! It sucks really! Ah right. Anyway, I'm a fan of both fighters. I don't really mind if Cotto doesn't fight Golovkin but imo he should fight an actual MW inside the next 12 months, i.e. defend the belt. If he's not going to defend it inside a year, then vacate.

You cant vacate being the lineal champ, thats imposible, I already have explain this a million times! Are you saying Donaire is still the lineal 118 champion then? What happens to a lineal title when a champion vacates? I've read there's no agreed resolution. #1 and #2 contenders must fight. Golovkin and Quillin basically.

I was going to post a rebuttal but there's really no point with you, is there? What you gonna say, Cotto is the lineal and GGG isn't? Because that's the only deference, the rest is about the same.

So if Cotto doesn't fight at MW again, there can never be another lineal MW champ? seems odd if that's true, but I've never really followed the whole lineage thing anyway. Cotto would have to retire or not fight in the division for a long long time, this is the reason we don't have many lineal champs! It sucks really!

You cant vacate being the lineal champ, thats imposible, I already have explain this a million times! So if Cotto doesn't fight at MW again, there can never be another lineal MW champ? seems odd if that's true, but I've never really followed the whole lineage thing anyway.

Ward doesn't make financial sense doe! GGG has never fought at 168, makes 160 with ease. Theres future fights with Cotto and possibly Canelo at 160, got Quilin too. Theres a Lineal Champ in his weight class in Cotto, who just beat the top 160lb'er and on the p4p list In Martinez. It makes sense to stay at 160, which is his current weight class.

I'm a bigger Cotto fan than a GGG fan and I wouldn't like to see this fight because Miguel would get badly, badly hurt. Other Cotto fans on this site have lost their goddamn mind, they are beginning to sound like the psychotic Mayweather fans each day. Boxing is a business, who has GGG beat, GGG can't draw flies to shiet.... Ward doesn't make financial sense doe!

What happens to a lineal title when a champion vacates? I've read there's no agreed resolution. You cant vacate being the lineal champ, thats imposible, I already have explain this a million times!

Its not about Cotto vacating his wbc belt. That doesnt matter. Its about vacating his lineal championship by announcing his permanent return to 154. Rubio doesnt get the lineal championship by getting the wbc belt. What happens to a lineal title when a champion vacates? I've read there's no agreed resolution.

Of course MW revolves around Cotto, only a fanboy would say otherwise. Who is the biggest draw there? Who is The Ring champ there? I mean Cotto is not even a MW, size-wise, yet he's better than some of the top MW's there, which shows the state of that division and the quality. If Cotto leaves MW, which he should, 160's stock will drop way down. GGG fans are having fun right now talking about Cotto vs GGG, but once Cotto leaves they'll have cheap fights like Soliman, Rubio, Murray, Geale, Macklin, etc. all of these B names. It's like a baseball team who signs one good player, and all the burden is on that player to produce. The player has no protection in the lineup, the fans want him to hit a home run in every at bat. While if Cotto goes down to 154, he'll have a lot of protection, he won't be the only star of the team, he has Canelo sharing the burden, he has Lara, Trout, Andrade, possibly Mayweather, possibly Bradley, Thurman fights at 154 occasionally, Kirkland, Angulo. Cotto at 160 is a star player with no protection, and at 154 he is a star player among other star players. It seems like the burden is on Cotto at 160 to produce good fights. 160 revolves around Cotto. Thats is a great post! But good luck trying to talk sense to some of this fan boys!