There's us a poll on thus site that believes 90% of the fans think GGG beats Cotto. I think so too. But as areal fan why the hell would I want to see a fight where we pretty much already know the outcome.
What happened to the real fans wanting real fights?
I understand where you're coming from, but as a real fan I can't claim GGG as the true middleweight champion until he beats him. I can make excuses that Cotto beat an old, shot Martinez who has one leg, but the fact remains that he beat the #1 guy at 160. People claim GGG hasn't beaten anyone but then say the #1 guy at 160 shouldn't fight him. How backwards is it that the #2 middleweight shouldn't fight the #1 middleweight because the #1 guy doesn't belong in the division?
Most people probably aren't too keen on the way he won the belt. Martinez was old, weak, and disabled. If Cotto wants to prove he is truly the champion of the division he should fight Golovkin.
I just want to see GGG have the opportunity to show he is THE middleweight champion. Even if it was premature, people began talking about Martinez vs GGG after Proksa. A lot of people, myself included, gave Sergio a lot of passes to avoid GGG. He wasn't exactly big enough before the Murray fight, and people understood Sergio taking the Cotto fight, but had Sergio won the backlash to fight GGG would have been even worse. I'm pissed because GGG has been in waiting and now that Cotto won his fans are already asking for other fights, all of which don't even include a actual middleweight.
There's us a poll on thus site that believes 90% of the fans think GGG beats Cotto. I think so too. But as areal fan why the hell would I want to see a fight where we pretty much already know the outcome.
What happened to the real fans wanting real fights?
I just want to see GGG have the opportunity to show he is THE middleweight champion. Even if it was premature, people began talking about Martinez vs GGG after Proksa. A lot of people, myself included, gave Sergio a lot of passes to avoid GGG. He wasn't exactly big enough before the Murray fight, and people understood Sergio taking the Cotto fight, but had Sergio won the backlash to fight GGG would have been even worse. I'm pissed because GGG has been in waiting and now that Cotto won his fans are already asking for other fights, all of which don't even include a actual middleweight.
We need new face of boxing because apparently Canelo is only good champions not ATG material at all.
with Floyd and manny retired in the next two years GGG is good candidate to replace them, Good looking, strong fan base, exciting fighting style. he need to learn speaking english and challenge the elites! he can fight cotto at 160/154, ward at 168 or even canelo.
I just want GGG to become the Lineal MW champion of the world. He is THE best fighter at 160 and I want the title that back that up. So bring on Cotto please and thank you.
Hopefully you are done here, your trolling is C level and your threads and logic are terrible. :bottle:
Ignorance is bliss. I'm sure your very happy. Run along now Huey.
If you viewed the poll it's not as cut and dry as a simple mind would view it, nor are the responses.
Loosen up the sombrero and get some air:kiss: bye bye now.
Believe what you want just don't red k me... It hurts so much.
If Cotto is to stay at Middleweight then he should fight GGG.
if not vacate and fight for the big bucks and big fame at 154..,
I'm done here.....
Sexual chocolate, ladies and gentle men Sexual Chocolate!:bling1:..lol
Hopefully you are done here, your trolling is C level and your threads and logic are terrible. :bottle:
So it is that the majority of the " hardcore " fans want to see this fight due to belts..
I'm so glad that majority isn't always right..:puppy_dog
McDonalds served over a billion. It's doesn't make it better then Grandmas, she served about 200.:kiss:
He's not missing anything he's blatantly trolling, its so obvious lol. If he was really missing the point and he was genuinely interested in having a real convo, then he would have gotten the picture like 3 threads ago, he keeps makign more about the same thing and dodging the real reason like a 5 year old lol.
Believe what you want just don't red k me... It hurts so much.
If Cotto is to stay at Middleweight then he should fight GGG.
if not vacate and fight for the big bucks and big fame at 154..,
I'm done here.....
Sexual chocolate, ladies and gentle men Sexual Chocolate!:bling1:..lol
You're missing the most important and obvious reason.
Golovkin deserves his shot at THE middleweight championship. Why are so many people against Golovkin getting a shot at THE middleweight championship? They were against it when Martinez was champ, and now they're against it with Cotto, too. The sooner he gets it, the sooner he moves up and fights all the fights everyone wants.
You'd almost think certain fans don't want Golovkin to accomplish anything for some reason.
He's not missing anything he's blatantly trolling, its so obvious lol. If he was really missing the point and he was genuinely interested in having a real convo, then he would have gotten the picture like 3 threads ago, he keeps makign more about the same thing and dodging the real reason like a 5 year old lol.
So it is that the majority of the " hardcore " fans want to see this fight due to belts..
I'm so glad that majority isn't always right..:puppy_dog
McDonalds served over a billion. It's doesn't make it better then Grandmas, she served about 200.:kiss:
I'm not paying attention nor am I acting vested.
Let's say the " chasing " is all true. Why are you holding Cotto to a higher standard? Like the guy with the biggest name that is the newest belt holder needs to fold?
Seems to me like he just got on the line....doesn't the line start at the rear?
And. Cotto just fought last...lol
C'mon man Cotto is just a man who by the way has paid his dues and is on his way out.
http://www.boxing scene.com/oner-explains-details-sturm-paying-avoid-golovkin--61851
http://www.boxing scene.com/golovkins-manager-njikam-refused-fight-gennady--49185
http://www.boxing forum24.com/showthread.php?t=492447
http://www.boxing forum24.com/showthread.php?t=507752
Hold on.
Your previous response was they should fight because the best should fight the best in the division...
Then you say Cotto is not the best in the division.
I'm done with you now. Being hypocritical does not help your debating skills.
Might I suggest you go back and edit your previous post so not to look too dumb.
I said that in general terms on what the fans think dude. It's not hard to see lol.
Talking about dumb, you're the one that said if the average Joe held the title GGG wouldn't chase him. That was completely wrong info on your part. I know you're defending Cotto and all but a lot of fans don't see it that way. I already posted before your threads on my feelings with Cotto fighting GGG. :smashfrea
Because it what comes with the territory when you win that lineal championship. Cotto is not the best in the division, specially off one fight. Unfair to the ones that have actually fought many fights at MW. Wouldn't you agree? I give you props for actually saying Cotto should go down if he's not going to defend the title. He's in a tight spot actually because 154 may have better talented boxers atm than 160.
But like I said, the boxing fan in me wants the best possible fight for boxing and right now it's Canelo vs Cotto. If Cotto wins in a hard fight, a tune up and then GGG would be fine after.
Hold on.
Your previous response was they should fight because the best should fight the best in the division...
Then you say Cotto is not the best in the division.
I'm done with you now. Being hypocritical does not help your debating skills.
Might I suggest you go back and edit your previous post so not to look too dumb.
Then stop claiming what Golovkin is doing if you're not paying any attention to what he's actually doing.
Cotto won the lineal championship. Like it or not, that brings certain standards. Golovkin has been the best MW in the world in the majority's eyes for a solid year or so. Whoever holds that lineal championship is going to face the most pressure to face the best opponents. It matters more than the unimportant alphabet belts.
Cotto is unimportant. I want Golovkin to get his shot at the lineal championship, whether that's Martinez or Cotto or anyone else.
If Cotto fights another middleweight other than GGG then your right.
But if he drops the belt and fights a Jr middleweight then I'm right.
By the way, we can all act like we know what all the inner workings in boxing are but you act like your GGG himself and you know what's going on behind the scenes. You then use then to corroborate your little belief. Well I can make believe I'm Quillin and I'm sure I challenged GGG....also I'm Suliman on the weekends and also been chasing GGG....I guess I win this debate.:smashfrea
Okay that's true.
Why does Cotto who just fought recently need to be the one to step to the front of the line before two other champs who been there already ?
Because he is the true middleweight?
Why because he is the best of the best and you love him that much?
:kiss:
Because it what comes with the territory when you win that lineal championship. Cotto is not the best in the division, specially off one fight. Unfair to the ones that have actually fought many fights at MW. Wouldn't you agree? I give you props for actually saying Cotto should go down if he's not going to defend the title. He's in a tight spot actually because 154 may have better talented boxers atm than 160.
But like I said, the boxing fan in me wants the best possible fight for boxing and right now it's Canelo vs Cotto. If Cotto wins in a hard fight, a tune up and then GGG would be fine after.
I'm not paying attention nor am I acting vested.
Let's say the " chasing " is all true. Why are you holding Cotto to a higher standard? Like the guy with the biggest name that is the newest belt holder needs to fold?
Seems to me like he just got on the line....doesn't the line start at the rear?
And. Cotto just fought last...lol
C'mon man Cotto is just a man who by the way has paid his dues and is on his way out.
Then stop claiming what Golovkin is doing if you're not paying any attention to what he's actually doing.
Cotto won the lineal championship. Like it or not, that brings certain standards. Golovkin has been the best MW in the world in the majority's eyes for a solid year or so. Whoever holds that lineal championship is going to face the most pressure to face the best opponents. It matters more than the unimportant alphabet belts.
Cotto is unimportant. I want Golovkin to get his shot at the lineal championship, whether that's Martinez or Cotto or anyone else.
That's incorrect. He wants to unify all titles.
Okay that's true.
Why does Cotto who just fought recently need to be the one to step to the front of the line before two other champs who been there already ?
Because he is the true middleweight?
Why because he is the best of the best and you love him that much?
:kiss:
It's really not my argument but I agree he should dump the belt and move on...
My argument is to see why these belts are even more important than the actual fight.
Do you think GGG wants Cotto because of the belt or because he can clobber the easiest belt holder with the biggest name that will put him on the map?
Because if JOE BLOW had the belt I bet GGG wouldn't care too much about unification.
That's incorrect. He wants to unify all titles.