He is strong as hell, he has 'decent' handspeed but help me out. What am I supposed to be looking at?
All of a sudden he is supposed to be this big puncher too.
He did what was expected against a faded fighter with ZERO power & only a jab who pulls back in straight lines. Devon was made to order too. Neither has the power to command anybodies respect. Paulie couldn't knock the froth of a cappuccino
Devon can not punch! The last time he showed power, in fact the only time was against Urangu's corpse!
I read so much rubbish about Devon having power, what power, man? ''Devon will stop Karass'' do these people come out with the most ridiculous scenarios in hope of sounding a genius if by some miracle it did happen? He couldn't budge that tough SOB with a baseball bat.
Mr Porter hasn't fought anybody with any power what so ever. As for his skills, I don't see them. What am I supposed to be looking at?
I see a flat-footed very crude, raw, naturally big wildman. Hes a bit Mayorga esque IMO
Porter is not walking through Brook. Paulie & Devon flattered him because he knew he could walk through their best shots.
He is not walking clean through Brooks its as simple as that. Get it out of your head, its not happening. Brook is going to jab him to death & land that right hand at will. Brooks fight to lose, only way he losses this is if he gasses ala Carson Jones or he gets robbed otherwise I fully expect Brook to win this fight, comfortably. If anybody gets stopped early its Porter.
Another Karim Mayfield, that is all he is.
I said it to porter when he was posting on this site that he was garbage. Porter only proved what I already knew and for the new brook groupies brook suck a$$ to hope you idiots don't hype him up cause exactly what happen to porter same thing will happen to brook
I did. I don't know, I got the feeling Porter was looking past Brook and after seeing them at the weigh in I could see how much bigger Kell was, I thought it was spelling trouble for Porter.
Also, Porter didn't seem to hurt brook at all. Porter was hurt several times and his face was a mess. Honestly, don't know what Jim Watt has been smoking - but he needs to be replaced.
What did Watt score it? 116-112 Porter? That sounds about right for him.
I noticed you slowly and cautiously coming over to the dark side :lol1:
So happy for him, was amazing watching what it meant to him and his family at the end there.
Brook is for real!
I hope to not hear people question his stamina, heart and chin again.
He is legit.
Wasn't impressed by Porter flailing away tbh, he is just a spoiler with an a hideous style
I did. I don't know, I got the feeling Porter was looking past Brook and after seeing them at the weigh in I could see how much bigger Kell was, I thought it was spelling trouble for Porter.
Also, Porter didn't seem to hurt brook at all. Porter was hurt several times and his face was a mess. Honestly, don't know what Jim Watt has been smoking - but he needs to be replaced.
I noticed you slowly and cautiously coming over to the dark side :lol1:
So happy for him, was amazing watching what it meant to him and his family at the end there.
Brook is for real!
I hope to not hear people question his stamina, heart and chin again.
He is legit.
Wasn't impressed by Porter flailing away tbh, he is just a spoiler with an a hideous style
Stamina/chin were huge questions for me, and damn he answered them just fine. I'll eat my crow on this one. Brook really made a fan.
Also, particularly good news on the stamina front given how physically demanding a fight with Porter is.
Porter though, damn. I knew he was crude and wild before, but what the fúck? He's just trying to win on pure energy and aggressiveness. He's sloppy as can be.
Dan you called it!
I didn't believe it at first, but as you can see from my posts today I favoured Brook as they went in :lol1:
Elated that Brook won! Porter all about excuses now.
I noticed you slowly and cautiously coming over to the dark side :lol1:
So happy for him, was amazing watching what it meant to him and his family at the end there.
Brook is for real!
I hope to not hear people question his stamina, heart and chin again.
He is legit.
Wasn't impressed by Porter flailing away tbh, he is just a spoiler with an a hideous style
Dan you called it!
I didn't believe it at first, but as you can see from my posts today I favoured Brook as they went in :lol1:
Elated that Brook won! Porter all about excuses now.
he struggled markedly less than mayweather did against maidana. if you deny that you are biased.
Well I had Ward-Bika closer than I did Mayweather-Maidana.
Regardless, both struggled.
when i rank a fighter historically, i look at his resume and his ability, with a stronger emphasis on resume. this is actually much less subjective than it is to rank a fighter p4p. p4p lists are completely abstract, unless fighters have common opponents or have fought each other.
when i rank fighters p4p, i look much more heavily at his ability. i want to know who the best fighter on the planet is, not whose resume looks the best. that's what a pound for pound list is.
you're projecting with the p4p list. these fighters cannot fight, yet we compare them anyway. when i rank a fighter p4p, i'm comparing them as if they were the same size, based on his ability and his accomplishments.
ward hit froch, kessler, so hard the brits forget all about it.
"our carl is a great fighter
andre ward, the guy who shut him out, sucks doe!"
froch won't even fight andre ward. let's just make sure that's understood by everybody in the thread. froch won't even fight ward.
you guys drop andre ward from your list quickly because you don't like him for what he's done to your heroes. he fought a top 10 fighter in november, and shut him out. every other major ranking body has him in their top 5. it is what it is, man. i don't have any bias like that.
if ward doesn't have a fight by november, regardless of whether or not a fight is scheduled, i'll remove him. when he whips ass, as long as it's not against ron salka, i'll probably put him back to the top of the list if he looks great.
i'm not denying Ward is a great fighter. I think he could step up to light heavy and cruiser and become champion if he wanted to. He's that good.
But I still fail to understand how you can jump Ward ahead of Mayweather when he's only had 1 easy fight in two years and Mayweather fought extremely well against Canelo and then had a tough fight with another champion in his division.
Would Floyd still have been your #1 had he fought someone like Luiz Collazo and looked like a million dollars?
I just can't see how you can increase Ward's standing based on nothing but Floyd had a tough fight. It's silly.
now that is a bad list :lol1:
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Who wins the most rounds off rigo?
Lomachenko does .
Hopkins goes without saying. Exceptional. At his age
And Thurman is one if the most ducked fighters
I know my boxing :)
I schooled NE and bodies in fligh with pure ease.
You can see mine in my sig
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It's based on how good each fighter is right now, how would they fare against their competition
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My P4P List:
1. Rigondeaux
2. Pacquaio
3. Hopkins
4. GGG
5. Mayweather
6. Bradley
7. Kovalev
8. Klitschko
9. Thurman
10. Lomachenko
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My P4P List:
1. Rigondeaux
2. Pacquaio
3. Hopkins
4. GGG
5. Mayweather
6. Bradley
7. Kovalev
8. Klitschko
9. Thurman
10. Lomachenko
now that is a bad list :lol1:
You can see mine in my sig
If you have sigs turned off
Here you go:
It's based on how good each fighter is right now, how would they fare against their competition
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My P4P List:
1. Rigondeaux
2. Pacquaio
3. Hopkins
4. GGG
5. Mayweather
6. Bradley
7. Kovalev
8. Klitschko
9. Thurman
10. Lomachenko
additionally, i still think mayweather beats thurman, because he's more of a boxer. maybe thurman hits him with something big, and floyd can't adjust, but i tend to doubt it.
also, i think maywetaher beats pacquiao, still, and relatively easily. he'd beat pacquiao easier than he beat maidana. bad, bad style.
shawn porter is not the only measurement by which i create a p4p list.
porter loses to more WW than floyd, given what i've told you.
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