Garcia vs May in La = Nas vs Jay-Z(Ether)

Garcia's verbal assault reminded me so much of Nas's infamous takedown of Jay-Z. (song: Ether if you care to youtube it..) Garcia's joke(or critique) all the funnier for how true it was- just like Nas. What Nas skewered so perfectly was how fantastical and outlandish Jay-Z had gotten, just like Money May. When Nas goes, 'Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?' That's Nas getting at Jay-Z the flawed person, the flawed man, so TRANSPARENTLY not as confident as he looks on his album covers. Every M.C. in the world wanted to have the song catalog, the albums, the money, the critical accolades, the EVERYTHING that Jay-Z had. But Nas pointed out simple stuff, just like Garcia. Garcia doesn't sound emotional or angry when he says that his kids and him have watched that fight together. He sounds believable. Does Floyd? Does Floyd even care if anyone believes the words he's saying? 'in 88 you was getting chased through your building. Calling my crib when I ain't even give you my numbers.' Here Garcia can't match the inside story, the intimate, 'you and me were brothers' thing that Nas hits in his song. But Garcia still sound like he's telling the truth like Nasty Nas when he says, 'Here in L.A., we don't need PPV. You and me can just go for walk.' Like Nas, doesn't need to exaggerate. He can just say **** plainly. Not blown out of proportion and distorted like Floyd. That's why Nas's retort was never answered by Jay-Z(really). He was just saying true stuff. You used to call my house and I'd never given my number to you. And now you want to talk a bunch of ****? 'You a fan, a phony, a fake, a *****, a Stan. I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class.' Is this not like Garcia and Maidana's whole vibe? Nas is like Garcia and Chino because his following was hip-hop fans, not casual fans(nothing wrong with being a casual fan, unless you want to win a war of words.... then it's not such a good thing.) When Garcia says, 'You and me can go for a little walk...' or Chino says, 'What I learned is he's not that good...' these words hit the ground like, 'THOOOOOOM. CRAAASSH' giant trees smashing buildings. These guys EARNED the stuff the hard way. Chino taking **** decisions against Kotelnik, beating a freaking, prime Ortiz, getting illegally held by Alexander. Not to say he shouldn't have gotten 'bad' decisions. BAD DECISIONS make you more BAD ASS. Getting a BAD DECISION makes you a million times better than some guy who always had the judges on his side. Garcia, the same thing. His fights are badass. When I see Garcia speak, I see superimposed over him the beatings he took as De La Hoya's sparring partner. Words are going to have lot more weight coming from the underdog. And how odd that Mayweather would indirectly or directly bring up Garcia the fighter or Corrales the fighter. Just like Jay-Z casually listing his own name among other better M.C.s(not saying that Jay-Z isn't great. It just sounds stupid to bring up other names like that.) It sounds idiotic for Floyd to bring up Chico Corrales when Corrales is in, arguably, the greatest fight of all time and is in many, many youtubable fights that are actually worth watching over and over again. So bizarre that Mayweather could toss off Diego's name like him and Diego have anything in common besides a fight. Not that Corrales or Garcia are better fighters than Floyd(actually, totally debatable...) or that Garcia could beat Floyd in a street fight(also totally debatable..) but it just sounds stupid of Floyd to bring up Corrales and Garcia the way he did. Like he's not really all that familiar with how beloved those two are. Especially Chico. Floyd sounds like he's never watched a great fight on youtube before. Has he ever watched Castillo vs. Corrales? Does he have any idea that THAT is what fights are SUPPOSED to be like? That fans have been hoping for years and years that he'd be in a fight like that one? In the end, most people would choose Jay-Z's or Floyd's life over Nas's, Garcia's or Maidana's. Jay-Z, the gorgeous wife, the artistic success and the money. Floyd, the money, the success and... the money. Meaning, to most people, Floyd and Jay-Z win the argument no matter how stupid their words sound... and, I guess that means Floyd wins. Unless he gets his ass beat on Sept. 13th.

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I just disagree with the comparison In some ways it works. Floyd is definitely Jay Z compared to Robert's Nas financially. Floyd definitely isn't as confident as he puts on. So that part works. He is an insecure person. But that's about where out ends imo. Casual fans are not rooting for Floyd like they were for Jay Z. If anything, Floyd has more of the hardcore boxing audience. Casuals find him boring. Just like casual hip hop fans find Nas boring. Hardcore fans respect their skills. When Garcia says "in L.A. we don't need pay per view" and tries to bait Floyd into a fight, I think that comes across as good entertainment, but not reality. He isn't serious about that and he knows it. It makes for a good press conference. But to me it sounds more like Jay in Takeover. In that song he challenged Nas' credibility even though his own was questionable. To me that's what Robert did. And when Floyd brought up Corrales, I saw that more as what Nas said about Jay getting chased through his building. Floyd was safe in his "building" when he fought Corrales. He beat him up. Robert/Jay got chased through that same building and got beat up. And are you saying Ortiz was prime when Chino fought him but not when Floyd fought him? I gotta disagree with you there as well. I think it's clear Floyd is a better fighter than Robert was. Just like it's clear Nas is a better lyricist than Jay Z. Casuals eat up the stuff Jay and Robert say, but they are ignorant. Casuals think Floyd is overrated, just like they thought Nas was overrated at the time. Not to say there aren't hardcore fans who appreciate Robert and Jay. There certainly are. I just don't think this comparison really works that well.

11y ago

Jc8804

You could have made your point with about 3 sentences. No one cares about your comparison and you are really just trying to put your idol jay in people's mouths, I see through your crap. It's a good diss track but your reaching, and most of the kids on here that listen to rap don't know the history and significance, just like most of these kids that try to pass as knowledgable and unbiased boxing fans don't know jack about boxings history either, or they wouldn't call Floyd the greatest ever. Best post of the year bro. Them ninjas is wankers

11y ago

FeFist

Ack. My post was too long and ridiculous. But it still baffles me as to why TBE(and he CAN make at least an argument that he is the best ever as ludicrous as it might sound to a lot of people) can't be a better trash talker. His skills are crazy. His record is incredible. Why can't he? Why wouldn't he shock everyone and say, 'Use whatever gloves. You can't touch me.' Which would've shut everyone up instantly. Kind of like when he took the Canelo fight. All the haters were shocked and silenced. Because he isn't mentally weak. I don't agree with forcing certain stipulations but at the same time changing your mind, to shut everyone up, would be a sign of a weak will.

11y ago

WhenWeWereKings

11y ago

No_bueno

Whatever u were smoking must've been top notch shiiettt.

11y ago

LoadedWraps

11y ago

LarryX

lol..........

11y ago

FeFist