Were based on who wins/loses the fight ? For example the winner gets 1 million the loser 500k.would the fights be better and more exciting? Youd figure the fighters would try harder to get the winners purse and make for a better show.especially if they theow in a KO bonus
Knowing youre guaranteed a certein amount win lose or draw I think takes away from their efforts a bit and some cruise or just dont try hard enough.just my opinion what do you guys think ? Can this change the sport ?
All you would have is people picking terrible fights so they could win no matter what. I know that happens from time to time now anyways, but you'd literally never see anyone fighting anyone that was remotely a threat.
they fight safer because of it, never really risking much going forward unless its for a takedown.
Yeah I edited most of what I wrote after I gave it a bit more thought, look above.
That's basically what the UFC does and look at how those guys fight. I'd rather boxers fight a technical fight.
they fight safer because of it, never really risking much going forward unless its for a takedown.
That's basically what the UFC does and look at how those guys fight. And come to think of it I remember some UFC fighters talk about how the threat of losing makes them fight safer actually, which makes their fights boring. There was a Stephan Bonnar fight where he took a guy down and fought for positional dominance practically the whole fight and Bonnar was usually a very exciting fighter when he was around. Boxers fight safe because they're afraid of losing already, you dock their pay for losing and they'll only fight safer.
I'd say performance bonuses are a better way to go. Cutting a paycheck for losing would make the sport more boring not more exciting.
It would make sense, anything that gives fighters an incentive to fight their hardest and never rest on their success in the ring I would approve of.
And your comparison to other jobs doesn't work larryx, boxing is a professional sport, and a combat sport at that, I think of all the professions in the world, it would make the most sense for prize fighters. They need to fight for something other than legacy/titles/glory once they have attained those three in their careers, and putting the purses on the line for the winner would remedy much of the ducking, cherry picking, mismatches, robberies, and we wouldn't see people going the RJJ route long term, once fighters can't win consistency they fall off and out of the race quickly, then you have a constant recycling system of talent and champions, I think that would be good for the sport long term.
I can tell you right now as an amater that if you were to say "if you win, you get X amount of money" as opposed to "you get paid X amount regardless", I am going into the fight with a completely different mindset.
I think if we put the loser's purses on the line we'd begin to see a dwindling number of new pros.
performance bonuses are a good idea, but docking your pay for losing is bull****
Exactly, and it's a system that could be easily implemented by the guys cutting the checks.
It would make sense, anything that gives fighters an incentive to fight their hardest and never rest on their success in the ring I would approve of.
And your comparison to other jobs doesn't work larryx, boxing is a professional sport, and a combat sport at that, I think of all the professions in the world, it would make the most sense for prize fighters. They need to fight for something other than legacy/titles/glory once they have attained those three in their careers, and putting the purses on the line for the winner would remedy much of the ducking, cherry picking, mismatches, robberies, and we wouldn't see people going the RJJ route long term, once fighters can't win consistency they fall off and out of the race quickly, then you have a constant recycling system of talent and champions, I think that would be good for the sport long term.
I can tell you right now as an amater that if you were to say "if you win, you get X amount of money" as opposed to "you get paid X amount regardless", I am going into the fight with a completely different mindset.
YES.my thoughts exactly. Well put man
It would make sense, anything that gives fighters an incentive to fight their hardest and never rest on their success in the ring I would approve of.
And your comparison to other jobs doesn't work larryx, boxing is a professional sport, and a combat sport at that, I think of all the professions in the world, it would make the most sense for prize fighters. They need to fight for something other than legacy/titles/glory once they have attained those three in their careers, and putting the purses on the line for the winner would remedy much of the ducking, cherry picking, mismatches, robberies, and we wouldn't see people going the RJJ route long term, once fighters can't win consistency they fall off and out of the race quickly, then you have a constant recycling system of talent and champions, I think that would be good for the sport long term.
I can tell you right now as an amater that if you were to say "if you win, you get X amount of money" as opposed to "you get paid X amount regardless", I am going into the fight with a completely different mindset.
:baby:there can only be one winner. why should a fighter get docked for losing a fight or having a lackluster performance? we all know styles make fights.
what about bad judging? should pacquiao have been docked for losing the first bradley fight? or should bradley have been docked for stinking out the joint, but coming away with a victory?
no fighter should have 3 judges decide whether he gets his full purse or not.
performance bonuses are a good idea, but docking your pay for losing is bull****
Youre bringing up some good points the sport isnt perfect.boxers are already losing their belts and their records ruined over bad judging and corruption now tho.some ppl believe those are worth more than money. The idea I brought up was to hopefully bring more excitement to the sport i love.doubt itll ever happen but I would love if some promoters tried it at least
That will be extremely acceptable, Why should you be monetary rewarded for lack luster performance when you were hired to perform that task to a certain quality standard.
there can only be one winner. why should a fighter get docked for losing a fight or having a lackluster performance? we all know styles make fights.
what about bad judging? should pacquiao have been docked for losing the first bradley fight? or should bradley have been docked for stinking out the joint, but coming away with a victory?
no fighter should have 3 judges decide whether he gets his full purse or not.
performance bonuses are a good idea, but docking your pay for losing is bull****
What is jobs were set up like that?? you get paid according to how hard you work everyday, so if you have a bad day at work your pay is cut...would that be ok?
Ever heard of a performance bonus? Think of it like that rather than a cut. Let's say both guys have a base of 500k and there's another 500k to the winner. 700k for a KO. I like this idea.
Ok if you want a better job study harder in school or train hard in a gym...dont blame others for your laziness, hell i come on here everyday and see people b1tching about how much a boxer makes..well they trained for years to get there and it took blood sweat and tears...then people sitting at home think they have the right to judge??? b1tch please..i been in the ring, ive seen my own blood..i know what they go through to get where they are...THEY EARNED IT
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I used to be an amateur boxer
I'm currently studying medicine and already have a degree under my belt, so unless something terrible happens, I'll be earning some good money and that's probably why I used the medical field as an example. Our jobs hang by a thread and doctors are true life savers, it's people like that, along with teachers, nurses, social workers and so on that should be making the BIG BUCKS, not athletes, boxers, footballers what ever.
But in all honesty, I could care less how much money a fighter makes, I'm really not that materialistic, I'd be more than happy with £50-100k, which is what I'll most likely earn in a few years.
what I agreed with in regards to the TS is the fact that fighters who perform well, possibly get the KO or look dominant, should be getting some sort of bonus and if a fighter has performed badly, stunk out the place, made booes ring down, looked lackluster etc then he should be docked some pay.
That happens in almost all professional scenarios, why not for sportsmen and women who earn more money than people whos jobs actually make the world a better place.
Now Larry, if you care so much about how much these fighters earn, out of which you make ZERO and you want to protect their earnings...then I dunno what to say. You're a pretty weird guy, you care more about certain fighters than you do about the health of out entire sport, a sport for which you apparently bled. I'll never understand simple minded people like you, but that's ok.
In a way Larry has a point, boxers who earn more money for the networks/promoters deserve the bigger checks. If they fight b1tch-made then shame on us for tuning in and going to the fight(s)
You have a choice, the people chose to continue to support fights and fighters that don't fight the way that we want them.
If you don't like it, don't tune in and purchase and take a real stance. Don't go buy a Mayweather (just an example) fight and come on ere and b1tch about how much he should be paid because he didn't perform to your liking (which is subjective anyway.)
all jobs are not equal, a doctor is not the same as a road sweeper, if a doctor messes up someone can die, his name can be stricken off the register and he may never work again.
boxers are sportsmen, the job of a sportsman is to entertain, if he is not doing that to his best ability, he should be docked pay.
i like the idea of KO bonuses like those in prizefighter
Ok if you want a better job study harder in school or train hard in a gym...dont blame others for your laziness, hell i come on here everyday and see people b1tching about how much a boxer makes..well they trained for years to get there and it took blood sweat and tears...then people sitting at home think they have the right to judge??? b1tch please..i been in the ring, ive seen my own blood..i know what they go through to get where they are...THEY EARNED IT
job=you work to get paid...they are all the same just some make more...how do you not understand this??? you do not work you do not eat
all jobs are not equal, a doctor is not the same as a road sweeper, if a doctor messes up someone can die, his name can be stricken off the register and he may never work again.
boxers are sportsmen, the job of a sportsman is to entertain, if he is not doing that to his best ability, he should be docked pay.
i like the idea of KO bonuses like those in prizefighter
yea they do in mikey garcia he gets like 2k month for training from top rank. and lomachenko makes 2 mill a year plus the purses
my source is the mikey garcia contract that was made public when he sued arum
job=you work to get paid...they are all the same just some make more...how do you not understand this??? you do not work you do not eat
Lol I cant with you. I give up
So boxer, **** star, fast food worker all the same ? No difference, a jobs a job right?.gotcha very logical
job=you work to get paid...they are all the same just some make more...how do you not understand this??? you do not work you do not eat
I compared it because IT IS THEIR JOB!!!!! just like you have a job...right???? THIS IS WHAT THEY DO TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES.... it seems ya'll do not understand this..there is no difference except they get beat in the damn head for their money, have no job benefits and can not get workers comp..and boxers get fired all the time..I.E dropped from their promoter or network
So boxer, **** star, fast food worker all the same ? No difference, a jobs a job right?.gotcha very logical