Remember when these cats were saying Maidana is a face first one dimensional brawler?

He is a brawler, his defense isn't the best. But why is that such a bad thing? Why is a "face first brawler" a bad thing? He's limited yes but he's also very good at what he does which makes him effective and dangerous for anyone when he's on his A game. These days being a brawler is considered the worst thing ever. It's only a bad thing when people use it to say a fighter is more limited than he is. There are also different types of brawlers but face first brawler tells me a guy comes forward with total disregard for defense, that's not Maidana, Maidana has underrated defense and is very rarely ever marked up.

Maidana has an ugly looking style (not to me), but it's effective. He knows how to hit and not get hit, and hey isn't that what boxing's all about? Good post. Well said.

Maidana has an ugly looking style (not to me), but it's effective. He knows how to hit and not get hit, and hey isn't that what boxing's all about?

Maidana is a face first one dimensional boxer he lost the fight, like we all predicted it was a one sided match up, only chance maidana had was low blows and head butts this is a joke of rematch and it will be even more easier for floyd this time around, i also expect a more stricter ref, so maidana cant do his dirty tactics, thus stands zero chance of winning

He is a brawler, his defense isn't the best. But why is that such a bad thing? Why is a "face first brawler" a bad thing? He's limited yes but he's also very good at what he does which makes him effective and dangerous for anyone when he's on his A game. These days being a brawler is considered the worst thing ever. Actually being a Brawler usually means a bit overrated on by the fans to an extent nowa days..Yet your overall point I agree with tho..

He is a brawler, his defense isn't the best. But why is that such a bad thing? Why is a "face first brawler" a bad thing? He's limited yes but he's also very good at what he does which makes him effective and dangerous for anyone when he's on his A game. These days being a brawler is considered the worst thing ever. So true. I think people overlook the fact that it takes skills to be a good brawler.

those are his attributes, but they're nothing special. His power isn't other-worldly and lots of fighters have heart. I take nothing away from him, he's a warrior and I support him when he fights but he's a limited boxer and I don't agree with the attempts to paint him as anything else. I agree 100%..

He is a brawler, his defense isn't the best. But why is that such a bad thing? Why is a "face first brawler" a bad thing? He's limited yes but he's also very good at what he does which makes him effective and dangerous for anyone when he's on his A game. These days being a brawler is considered the worst thing ever.

I agree,I still think a fight between Prov and Maidana is 50/50..Not to mention,I'd personally favor Prov..I think he's the more athletic of the two.. Maidana has good power and great heart and will to win..That's what makes him special imo.. those are his attributes, but they're nothing special. His power isn't other-worldly and lots of fighters have heart. I take nothing away from him, he's a warrior and I support him when he fights but he's a limited boxer and I don't agree with the attempts to paint him as anything else.

Every Floyd fight ever has people saying he'll "Gatti" his opponent. It's as guaranteed as any thread about Al Haymon becoming about Floyd vs. Pac. Don't forget the people that think he would win every fight by KO if not for his brittle hands :lol1:.

According to the floyd minions, this guy was supposed to be gattied. Now Floyd needs another fight with this guy to prove he is easy work. Lol Every Floyd fight ever has people saying he'll "Gatti" his opponent. It's as guaranteed as any thread about Al Haymon becoming about Floyd vs. Pac.

Such as? and I do see a Ruslan fight 50-50, so did most of NSB when the threads were made. It would be a war. I agree,I still think a fight between Prov and Maidana is 50/50..Not to mention,I'd personally favor Prov..I think he's the more athletic of the two.. Maidana has good power and great heart and will to win..That's what makes him special imo..

pressure fighter = face first brawler. Got it. Maidana can not handle movement..Mayweather did not show movement early which is why the fight was close at half way point..Yet when Maidana slowed and Mayweather started to show the movement,May came overly accurate and Maidana became overly sloppy and inaccurate..

I was impressed that he brought the fight to May,yet I don't see him as anything but a one dimensional brawler..Who loss to May 8-4 9-3...

This is the exact way I felt about him. I use to rate him when he first came to Germany then he felt in love with his power and abandon most of the things that made him who he was at that time, but like you said something change with Garcia in charge which was for the best, I didn't rate him much until he pull of that Broner performance then gave TBE his best workout in years. You're the same poster who said Maidana would throw less punches against Mayweather than Canelo threw. Good to see you eating your crow at least.

Alexander outboxed him doe. In all seriousness , I was impressed by maidana. Broner isn't the bum people were callin him. Maidana ducked his head low when mayweather threw because he knows mayweather likes throwing straight punches as opposed to uppercuts. And yea dat jab was immense. But mayweather wasn't as sharp as he normally is That's because of what Chino was doing! Mayweather prepares himself very well before a fight. He was sharp; it's just that Maidana dragged him into a brawl early on.

Such as? and I do see a Ruslan fight 50-50, so did most of NSB when the threads were made. It would be a war. Maidana is a special fighter because he is deceptively crafty and has a high ring IQ, combined with a come forward, fearless style, heart, and one punch KO power. The combination of all of that in one package is special. You have crafty fighters and slick boxers, and you have face first brawlers, but rarely do you get a combination of both that can have success at the highest level. Most people with one punch KO power don't have the ring IQ to set traps and make the subtle movements with feet and feints to control the fight much like a master boxer does. It's the composition of Maidana as a fighter that makes him special, his evolution as a fighter. It's really something to watch. I also think the fight with Ruslan would be a war, but Ruslan is a brawler who doesn't have as many tools in the shed, he relies on chin, power, aggression and heart, Maidana can control his aggression and use it more effectively and has much better defense, on top of that he has the same chin and power or at least comparably, so I don't see how anyone can favor Ruslan, it would be a great fight, and Ruslan can put down anyone with one shot and that's why like Maidana he's exciting to watch everytime, but Maidana isn't as similar to Ruslan or Rios as some people make him out to be, that would be like saying (and people were, sadly) that Broner fights the same as Floyd. They really don't, they have some similar qualities, but Floyd has all the positive qualities of Broner and more, just like Maidana has all the positive qualities of Rulsan and more.

Are you being serious right now? :lol1: There are special things about Maidana, and Maidana vs Ruslan would be a great action packed fight, but it's far from a 50/50 fight. Such as? and I do see a Ruslan fight 50-50, so did most of NSB when the threads were made. It would be a war.

pressure fighter = face first brawler. Got it.

Maidana is still a face first brawler loool what do you think he is now? Some kind of offensive genius ala Manny/young Tyson/Liston? Come on now, yes he fights with a few more brain cells these days, his jab and left hook to the body has improved but his style remains the same, pressure, pressure, pressure, hop to hurt the other guy, pressure, pressure etc But there ain't nothing wrong with that, Floyd has consistently struggled with pressure fighters.