I am not putting Cotto down and think he has had a great career and many accomplishments. However, I just wanted to ask if others think they may be somewhat skewed and hypocritical (at least post Pacquaio fight).
To begin, lets mention his fight with Delvin. That was a show case fight and he did what he had to, so props to him. But was that really that much of a great fight that people make it out to be?
Then we have Sergio. The only reason this is brought is up because at one point, didn't Cotto say he did not want to fight Sergio, but why is it AFTER the sudden knee problems and being away from the game a while, is it NOW ok to fight him. This is the same scenario with Tony.
Miguel said Tony will never make another dollar off his name. Tony gets busted up by Manny, and NOW Cotto is fine to fight him.
Why does Cotto say he won't fight someone then turn around and fight them (after an injury)
I won't even mention him not staying at 147 and moving up to fight 1 legged Yuri and Mayorga.
Cotto haters aka most likely mexicans
you said mexicans so you likely hate mexicans if you brought this topic up about hate. we do have a rivalry in boxing between the mexicans and puerto ricans. no mexican fighter ever defeated tito trinidad. this is not about tito and his amazing underated career which deserves more props than its gotten.
cottos accomplishments still include 2 wins vs gimps at diff weights. cotto is still a remarkable fightr of this eara. he easily outdid margarito in compition as cotto is easily more accomplishished than marg,
fact is people still will remember cotto vs trout cause martinez or rodrigues were put on to make cotto look good.
you using profanity and getting upset over(non cotto fans and nonbiased fans) stating that cotto defeating gimp martinez is a paper title. im a morales fan and morales defeating cano was a paper title for morales. you saw what happened to morales vs garcia(a puerto rican prospect at the time) morales fought nice but it showed that morales was given a chance for a easy paper title just like cotto defeating 2 gimps in different weights. cotto will prove hes worthy middleweight if hes capable of beating guys like ggg. i still remember cotto losing to trout and thats a fact. i for some reason think trout is a bum. maybe hes not. who knows but delvin is a true bum . cotto is a hall of famer easily and shoulda easily defeated trout in my view.
Stop it ..lol your reaching all over the place and it's ridiculous. Your not even giving a boxer credit for doing what he is suppose to do considering all these robberies and upsets.
Also As you degrade Morales as a nobody, he just went a competitive 12 rounds with Maidona and beat Cano. I like Morales and understand that he was at the end of his career but he was no pushover and he lost PERIOD and ugly too. Everything else you said is debatable but I'm not getting into it...too damn long and open to interpretation.
They are not Sergio's fans, they are Cotto haters, so fuck them!
you using profanity and getting upset over(non cotto fans and nonbiased fans) stating that cotto defeating gimp martinez is a paper title. im a morales fan and morales defeating cano was a paper title for morales. you saw what happened to morales vs garcia(a puerto rican prospect at the time) morales fought nice but it showed that morales was given a chance for a easy paper title just like cotto defeating 2 gimps in different weights. cotto will prove hes worthy middleweight if hes capable of beating guys like ggg. i still remember cotto losing to trout and thats a fact. i for some reason think trout is a bum. maybe hes not. who knows but delvin is a true bum . cotto is a hall of famer easily and shoulda easily defeated trout in my view.
You guys are still crying? :rofl:
Just take your L and keep it moving like Martinez did! :rofl:
They are not Sergio's fans, they are Cotto haters, so fuck them!
This may shock you but............Cotto is human...lol
That means he makes hypocritical statements, seizes opportunities, and makes a lot of money off all those fights. Prior to Cotto , Delvin was stopped one time in the 8th round in all his career, I'd say Cottos showing against him was good. However and under whatever circumstance Tony lost, he deserved the beating and less money. And I'm so tired of Martinez excuses.
WE ALL KNEW ABOT THE KNEES AND WE ALL STILL THOUGHT MARTINEZ WAS GONNA END COTTOS CAREER....didn't happen..enough. And wasn't Yuri unbeaten when he lost to Cotto? He wasn't great but he's no bum either....besides, with the exception of Martinez, these wins aren't what make Cotto great.
We forget that Cotto is the type of fighter that keeps even US the hardcore fans happy by fighting any and everyone out there...damned if you do and damned if you don't.
cotto to me is a hall of famer no questions but hes not tito trinidad under no circumstance. trinidad has less titles at diff weights but hes legitimately beaten guys like whitaker, vargas ,oba carr(highly underated) and others, cotto is made to look great by winning paper titles vs gimps at different weights. styles make fights and any top notch fighter should beat guys like trouts azz. cotto vs delvin is a showcase fight for hbo to illusion the fans that cotto is better than hes before. thats nonsense. prime cotto is better than roach cotto .cotto can still fight. hes a hall of famer to me but i still remember cotto looking silly vs mayorga at cottos peak but to cottos will, cotto k.o'd mayorga. trinidad not prime and retired beat the crap outta a super mayorga in his prime. mayorga was in his prime . cottos best win was old version mosley(mosley not in downfall though)cotto should fighgt ggg to prove hes the real deal.cotto defeating ggg will prove that the win vs martinez wasnt smokes and mirrors . martinez was injured and gimped up, trout sukks. trout beat cotto convincingly to me. delvin sukks too
This may shock you but............Cotto is human...lol
That means he makes hypocritical statements, seizes opportunities, and makes a lot of money off all those fights. Prior to Cotto , Delvin was stopped one time in the 8th round in all his career, I'd say Cottos showing against him was good. However and under whatever circumstance Tony lost, he deserved the beating and less money. And I'm so tired of Martinez excuses.
WE ALL KNEW ABOT THE KNEES AND WE ALL STILL THOUGHT MARTINEZ WAS GONNA END COTTOS CAREER....didn't happen..enough. And wasn't Yuri unbeaten when he lost to Cotto? He wasn't great but he's no bum either....besides, with the exception of Martinez, these wins aren't what make Cotto great.
We forget that Cotto is the type of fighter that keeps even US the hardcore fans happy by fighting any and everyone out there...damned if you do and damned if you don't.
U are just a hater. If trout is a bum then canelo is not much better than that considering that trout vs canelo fight was very very close they had some of the worse scorecards i have seen giving canelo like 8 or 9 of the first 10 rounds. Styles make fights. Just like you said that was cottos fault well that was martinez fault for accepting the fight saying he was 100 % and got beat up by a blown up ww. Stop hating so much you sound like a little *****
i dont care about canelo. canelo was losing the first 5 rounds vs sorry azz alfonso gomez until he knokked his azz out, cotto beat the crap outta sorry azz gomez. martinez was still a gimp. ggg is not a gimp and cotto didnt fight a legit fighter at his best to get that title. trout sukks, cotto was outclassed by that bum and like erik morales beating cano. cotto beating martinez gimp version is a paper title . (im a morales fan - my fav fighter). cotto beat 2 gimps to win titles in diff weight devisions but styles do make fights. trout still sukks and cotto still lost to trout.
by the way, no need for profanity or just try to not get too angry, opinions are opinions .
fact is cotto chose to fight 2 gimps for titles:boxing:
thats cottos fault. he chose trainers and he still lost to that bum trout. freddy or not, cotto foght a a handicapped martinez who was gimping around with no legs, he beat delvin who is a nobody and cotto is now marketed as the #1 middleweight even though hes probably not gonna fight ggg.its risky. cotto fights everyone but to prove that hes the best middlewight . this last win vs gimp martinez is farce so he has to fight ggg. remember, trout(a bum ) beat cotto by humiliating cotto in front of all his puerto rican fans . cotto still hasnt fought a fully healthy great caliber fighter at middleweight cause martinez was dead man that cant walk as martinez gimped down to the ring with cotto
U are just a hater. If trout is a bum then canelo is not much better than that considering that trout vs canelo fight was very very close they had some of the worse scorecards i have seen giving canelo like 8 or 9 of the first 10 rounds. Styles make fights. Just like you said that was cottos fault well that was martinez fault for accepting the fight saying he was 100 % and got beat up by a blown up ww. Stop hating so much you sound like a little *****
Yeah because a Pedro diaz trained cotto is fighting exactly like a Freddy roach trained fighter is.
thats cottos fault. he chose trainers and he still lost to that bum trout. freddy or not, cotto foght a a handicapped martinez who was gimping around with no legs, he beat delvin who is a nobody and cotto is now marketed as the #1 middleweight even though hes probably not gonna fight ggg.its risky. cotto fights everyone but to prove that hes the best middlewight . this last win vs gimp martinez is farce so he has to fight ggg. remember, trout(a bum ) beat cotto by humiliating cotto in front of all his puerto rican fans . cotto still hasnt fought a fully healthy great caliber fighter at middleweight cause martinez was dead man that cant walk as martinez gimped down to the ring with cotto
sergio martinez, the jewish guy yuri and margarito were all handicapped, the belts he won from the gimps were all too sell cotto as a renewed version of cotto but thats all smoke and mirrors, cottos biggest win is still zab or mosley. trout vs cotto is the same cotto that we saw vs martinez cause martines was injured and broken. the martinez that knokked out williams or made spectacles with pavlik was not in there with cotto. delvin was a way to showcase how good cotto can be vs a nobody but cotto did get humiliated by trout. a nobody i might add. austin trout sukks
Yeah because a Pedro diaz trained cotto is fighting exactly like a Freddy roach trained fighter is.
I am not putting Cotto down and think he has had a great career and many accomplishments. However, I just wanted to ask if others think they may be somewhat skewed and hypocritical (at least post Pacquaio fight).
To begin, lets mention his fight with Delvin. That was a show case fight and he did what he had to, so props to him. But was that really that much of a great fight that people make it out to be?
Then we have Sergio. The only reason this is brought is up because at one point, didn't Cotto say he did not want to fight Sergio, but why is it AFTER the sudden knee problems and being away from the game a while, is it NOW ok to fight him. This is the same scenario with Tony.
Miguel said Tony will never make another dollar off his name. Tony gets busted up by Manny, and NOW Cotto is fine to fight him.
Why does Cotto say he won't fight someone then turn around and fight them (after an injury)
I won't even mention him not staying at 147 and moving up to fight 1 legged Yuri and Mayorga.
Stop with excuses everyone was saying how yuri was going to whoop cotto on here. He got injured during the fight. Cotto didn't want Margarito to make another dollar off of him after being caught cheating but Bob arum wanted to make the fight anyways so cotto agreed but only if his demands were met. Now provide evidence of cotto saying that he would never fight sergio. Cotto was on espn deported golpe a golpe and they had a video of martinez saying he wanted to fight cotto and cotto said martinez is a great fighter and everything and I'm willing to fight all the big names. That was jack. 2012 before he fought floyd. So I call bs on him saying he wouldn't fight him
sergio martinez, the jewish guy yuri and margarito were all handicapped, the belts he won from the gimps were all too sell cotto as a renewed version of cotto but thats all smoke and mirrors, cottos biggest win is still zab or mosley. trout vs cotto is the same cotto that we saw vs martinez cause martines was injured and broken. the martinez that knokked out williams or made spectacles with pavlik was not in there with cotto. delvin was a way to showcase how good cotto can be vs a nobody but cotto did get humiliated by trout. a nobody i might add. austin trout sukks