I throw it kind of in between or diagonal. If I throw it completely facing me it hurts my wrist. The idea behind having your wrist turned over is it turns your shoulder into the target from your footing through your torso in one motion.
I worked with an older trainer and he was adamant that I turn my hook over. The only time I opened my hook up was going to the body.
That is also how i throw mine and how i trained my child to throw his.. But today in the gym his trainer was telling him to have his palm facing the ground
Fk that euro bum
Like your holding a mug, this way of throwing the hook reduces incidents of injury to the wrist. Freddy Roach prefers to throw the hook palms facing the ground..tight and quickly.
I've always felt like I"m going to tear my shoulder off when I land with it face down. For that reason my palm time faces me 95% of the time. I can't shake that feeling off so it throws me off. I also seem to get more leverage from it facing me.
Pronating the left hook is a difficult technique to master, the "open" hook is much easier to deliver. However the "open" hook can cause damage to the knuckles because your not landing your "full length fist" your only landing a few knuckles with the open technique.
The same principle holds true with turning over your right hand to be able to land your fist more flush and full. If your landing more "area" of your fist it should translate to more hurt for your opponent and the percentage of hand injuries goes down.
Ray
True enough... The reason I say a pronated hook can be injury prone is because 1... There is generally more force on it and more behind it because the elbow is behind it.."cranking it" and 2. If the hook doesn't land full surface and just clips with a few knuckles your opponent in an awkward area.. like high on the head.. it can give a hand/wrist injury depending on the angle.
I have never hurt my hand with a palm facing hook... but have hurt it a couple times when I misjudged distance with the palm down hook, because I just simply throw With more velocity palm down.
Pronating the left hook is a difficult technique to master, the "open" hook is much easier to deliver. However the "open" hook can cause damage to the knuckles because your not landing your "full length fist" your only landing a few knuckles with the open technique.
The same principle holds true with turning over your right hand to be able to land your fist more flush and full. If your landing more "area" of your fist it should translate to more hurt for your opponent and the percentage of hand injuries goes down.
Ray
I'll throw both, but I find my hand is a little more prone to injury in a palm down hook than Palm facing. However, my most powerful hook is palm down. Palm facing I use more as a probing shot or to soften a guy's guard for the right hand. Also awkward angle shots are usually palm facing. But if I have an opening, I'll crank that Palm down, it's one of my best shots.
Also Body shots... I never really throw palm facing to the body... When I do throw that it's almost exclusively to the head.
Pedro Diaz tried teaching Cotto to throw his palm down. He did frequently in the 24/7 for the Margarito fight. It just didn't work for him.
Correct and in accordance with amateur techniques.
Here in Europe most of us, including my own self, throw it palm facing ground. It's because of the amateur style the biggest part of us learn here. The fact is when you throw it palm facing you there is more chances you'll hit your opponent with the non padded part of glove and you'll be sanctioned by referee in amateur bouts for that. On the other side in general, you americans throw it more often palm facing you, because of a different (I'd say more professional) style. Take a look at Tyson for example, at his guard - hands tucked in, glued to his face it was a lot easier for him to throw a hook with palm facing him and not the ground.
For me, off the jab, or counter, palm down always felt quicker.
If I was "loading up", or going to the body, palm facing. Just more of a "feel" thing as far as leverage and shoulder position when it came to myself.
i utilize both depending on the situation. i feel it gives me more offensive options and adds a lot of versatility to my game to alter my techniques, same with other punches. if i throw an uppercut for example i may throw it with my palm facing inwards since its easier to split the guard that way, or i may have my palm facing me to get more power.
That is also how i throw mine and how i trained my child to throw his.. But today in the gym his trainer was telling him to have his palm facing the ground
palm down when from mid range or far, but in close palm facing me
Both.....but more importantly with the point of my elbow pointing outward and at equal height as my fist.
100 percent correct about the elbow, another thing my sons trainer was preaching about today..i know my boxing but i am always open to learn more and am always listening to others opinion
IMO and it is just my opinion, palms facing you seems to catch the chin better and be more natural and faster to land..but again that is just to me and my opinion..
It's how I try to throw mine as well. It feels easier to, like you said, catch the chin flush.
Perhaps Cotto never truly mastered it or just didn't like it. He throws palm in with Roach.
I notice also Shane throws his palm down..Cotto, Tito,Oscar=palm in
you just answered your own question. some of the best hookers right there.
Cotto's hook is a thing of beauty.
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IMO and it is just my opinion, palms facing you seems to catch the chin better and be more natural and faster to land..but again that is just to me and my opinion..
I agree, not sure why but it felt unnatural for me to throw my hook with my palm facing down. Has anybody noticed how most pro's throw the left hook? Never thought about it much until now.
Pedro Diaz tried teaching Cotto to throw his palm down. He did frequently in the 24/7 for the Margarito fight. It just didn't work for him.
IMO and it is just my opinion, palms facing you seems to catch the chin better and be more natural and faster to land..but again that is just to me and my opinion..