Let's say in ~15 years ESPN does a 30 for 30 on Pacquiao and Mayweather...

All I know is, there are a lot of questions to be answered. There's a lot of information I'd like to know. I feel both sides are to blame. It's really ridiculous. Can you believe this fight actually didn't happen? I mean, the fight that has defined this era never occurred. Unbelievable. Us fans deserve an explanation and not some runaround nonsense.

I want that video of Floyd saying he was scared played over and over and I want them to ask Floyd why he was so shook of a prime Pac (I guarantee this fight happens within the next 12 months) He'd fast forward 30 seconds and show you how the scared comment was clearly hyperbole. I mean, how old are we?

I want that video of Floyd saying he was scared played over and over and I want them to ask Floyd why he was so shook of a prime Pac (I guarantee this fight happens within the next 12 months) Floyd said he was scared, or are you not listening to the context in which it was said? I think its the latter.

I got confused about the 14 days number but Pacquiao did make a counter offer of 24 days. Floyd wanted the testing to stop at 14 days. The point I was making that once Pacquiao made a counter offer, Floyd walked away. http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-bends-mayweather-agrees-14-day-cut--27459 This article was posted over 4 years ago Truly remember Manny/Arum walking away from negotiations and had fight signed within a week. He is still agreeing after the fact though. One person refused 14 days, the other wanted it. Then after the fact, the one person was ok with 14 days. Edit: Actually if i remember correctly, Manny wanted 30 days, Floyd wanted up to the fight, but ended up splitting the difference and saying 14 days. Manny still refused and walked away. Thats when Arum said blood makes him weak and that video of Manny wearing the Cowboys jersey and him saying the same thing (if I am not mistaken) in regards to the Morales fight.

I want that video of Floyd saying he was scared played over and over and I want them to ask Floyd why he was so shook of a prime Pac (I guarantee this fight happens within the next 12 months)

Pacquiao says he would now be willing to take a blood test 14 days ahead of any fight with his American rival. This was after the fact. Not during negotiations. I got confused about the 14 days number but Pacquiao did make a counter offer of 24 days. Floyd wanted the testing to stop at 14 days. The point I was making that once Pacquiao made a counter offer, Floyd walked away. http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-bends-mayweather-agrees-14-day-cut--27459 This article was posted over 4 years ago

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8698753.stm http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/2/1/2765122/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-offer-50-million-55-45-split-cotto-may-5-boxing-news Were you even watching boxing back then? This is common knowledge to people who actually followed what happened. No wonder you have red k and no one has ever heard of ya pal Pacquiao says he would now be willing to take a blood test 14 days ahead of any fight with his American rival. This was after the fact. Not during negotiations.

If you want to be a successful pact4rd, at least get basic facts right. Pacquiao did not agree to the 14 day window proposed by Floyd to meet the 30 day window Pacquiao demanded half way. Source for the ridiculous $50m guarentee negotiation? Or was that from one of Pac's numerous "counter offers to Floyd" to the media - and ironically always said during the promotional period of one of his already scheduled fights. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8698753.stm http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/2/1/2765122/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-offer-50-million-55-45-split-cotto-may-5-boxing-news Were you even watching boxing back then? This is common knowledge to people who actually followed what happened. No wonder you have red k and no one has ever heard of ya pal

Floyd walked away from both negotiations after Pacquiao made a counteroffer First one was OSDT. Pacquiao countered with a 2 week before the fight limit and a post fight drug test. Floyd walked away 2nd one was $40 million with no PPV. This is a huge slap in the face and team Pacquiao countered with $50 million guaranteed and 55% of the PPV to the winner and 45% to the loser. Floyd walked away And if Floyd wouldn't even allow himself to be in the Fight Night games, I don't think he'll let himself be on 30 for 30. The real way to do this would be a fan made video like a documentary. Would you really want to watch a video about this with Fat Dan and Teddy Atlas doing interviews? No way If you want to be a successful pact4rd, at least get basic facts right. Pacquiao did not agree to the 14 day window proposed by Floyd to meet the 30 day window Pacquiao demanded half way. Source for the ridiculous $50m guarentee negotiation? Or was that from one of Pac's numerous "counter offers to Floyd" to the media - and ironically always said during the promotional period of one of his already scheduled fights.

Floyd has no right to demand against 8 divisions champ and Fighter of the Decade Pacquiao by that time when his only best wins were against Oscar, Hatton, Mosley and Cotto while we know pretty much Pac made them like a bum against him. Oh I almost forgot. Pac has Nike, HP, Hennessy, etc.. while your boy was selling a cheap lottery soda. Do you realize how stupid you sound? Both sides of a fight have demands, that's the way negotiating works. And you're basing Pac's negotiating power on his endorsement with Hennessy...ok got ya :smashfrea

Floyd walked away from both negotiations after Pacquiao made a counteroffer First one was OSDT. Pacquiao countered with a 2 week before the fight limit and a post fight drug test. Floyd walked away 2nd one was $40 million with no PPV. This is a huge slap in the face and team Pacquiao countered with $50 million guaranteed and 55% of the PPV to the winner and 45% to the loser. Floyd walked away And if Floyd wouldn't even allow himself to be in the Fight Night games, I don't think he'll let himself be on 30 for 30. The real way to do this would be a fan made video like a documentary. Would you really want to watch a video about this with Fat Dan and Teddy Atlas doing interviews? No way

Countless peps would say Floyd wanted none of Packy even Floyd own dad. It would be the first time in history that a fighter would say his health come first. AquaMan laughed so had he drowned the next day.

You can't agree to contractual demands that were written 3-4 years prior. Times change, he should've agreed to them in 2009. Period. Floyd has no right to demand against 8 divisions champ and Fighter of the Decade Pacquiao by that time when his only best wins were against Oscar, Hatton, Mosley and Cotto while we know pretty much Pac made them like a bum against him. Oh I almost forgot. Pac has Nike, HP, Hennessy, etc.. while your boy was selling a cheap lottery soda.

Floyd offered $40m PERIOD! No back end and no PPV $ that's why Pac turned it down.

and of course, this thread became like the 800 other threads about the negotiations with the same people saying the same sh1t for the past 4 years Yeah, that's not what I wanted but it happened anyway smh

HBO has a partnership with ESPN so if they produce the documentary it would be slanted one way. If any objective, independent entity produced a documentary on the lack of this fight happeneing, it would most surely place equal blame on both fighters, unless they uncovered evidence that squarely placed blame on one camp. I for one want to now if the email that Atlas and Tim Smith swear they saw was in fact true. I would also love it if they had a recording of the $40 mil, no ppv offer conversation. That might be true. I would love for some kind of documentary to come out some years down the road; an unbiased one of course. I don't think Arum cared about a stadium. He didn't want the fight. the biggest fights nowadays are almost always in vegas casinos, not large stadiums. Because even with less in attendance, they can still outbid larger stadiums. They make so much $$$ from the "high-rollers" and degenerate gamblers. Now for the biggest money fight ever, Arum decides he wants something different? Wow, that is enlightening. I literally had no idea that would be the case. Uncle Bob was ****ing up smh

i want to know why floyd faked a supposed $100 million contract with don king after the failed 2nd negotiation...and why he ran away from his team to spend time at don king's place. It just meant it's not really about the testing issues. Money Mayweather at that time was too bashful to demand more money. That's the explanation for the Don King story. Money Mayweather wanted to know the maximum amount he can get out of this fight. He didn't trust Mr Arum. Don't forget this is a guy who is a ped user.

I have a question they should look Pacquiao right in his eyes and ask him: Why did you refuse to take the tests and sue rather than clear your name and whoop Floyds ass? What happened? Why did you wait so long to finally comply with OST's? What made you change your mind?

Corruption The opening of the show will probably go like this: “Manny Pacquiao who is now serving life in prison on unprecedented corruption charges...”

i want to know why floyd faked a supposed $100 million contract with don king after the failed 2nd negotiation...and why he ran away from his team to spend time at don king's place. and why the cut Manny had in early 2012 wasn't an impediment to a May 2012 fight with anyone else yet when the prospect of the floyd fight came up, he suddenly needed massive stitching from Bob's son in law that prevented the fight from happening.