William Joppy says Felix Trinidad should not be in hall of fame, calls him "a cheat"

Everytime I hear the name Joppy I always get flash backs of the horrendous beat down Trinidad gave him. Brutal just brutal, no reason to complain a decade later. I feel the same exact way, his name is synonymous with Trinidad beating the **** out of him.

Just re-watched the fight. Two things: HBO slobbered Trinidad's cock pretty good. Its crazy how Joppy was able to make it out of the 4th round. they were pumping him up as much as they could because they were looking to cash out on a jones vs trinidad fight.

Man this Oscar the Grouch lookin mutha****a

Just re-watched the fight. Two things: HBO slobbered Trinidad's cock pretty good. Its crazy how Joppy was able to make it out of the 4th round. They sure did! After the fight they kinda compared Tito to ray robinson. Lol Tito whipped Joppy ass though.

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BRO lol what part do you not understand ----------> "It just wasn't legal in New York" :trink26: he broke the rules his team fault but its still not an excuse to not know the rules Bro, pissing in the street is illegal. Is it the same thing as killing someone just because they're both illegal??? No!

So having pine tar too high up to the barrel of your bat is the same as deliberately putting cork in your bat???? I don't think so bro. BRO lol what part do you not understand ----------> "It just wasn't legal in New York" :trink26: he broke the rules his team fault but its still not an excuse to not know the rules

Where was that plaster? I didn't see any. What Trinidad tried to do was something illegal. What do we call people that do illegal things in boxing? Stop it bro! Why the **** did he get suspended then???

his point is this Trinidad tried to cheat DOES NOT MATTER HOW MINOR YOU THINK IT WAS. A CHEAT IS A CHEAT NO MATTER HOW YOU PUT IT "wasn't legal in New York" <------- THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELFE So having pine tar too high up to the barrel of your bat is the same as deliberately putting cork in your bat???? I don't think so bro.

Mr. Fantastic will ignore this and continue to compare it the way that Margo cheated to justify it. He is wrapped by Margo's nut sack his point is this Trinidad tried to cheat DOES NOT MATTER HOW MINOR YOU THINK IT WAS. A CHEAT IS A CHEAT NO MATTER HOW YOU PUT IT "It just wasn't legal in New York" <------- THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELFE

Richardson clears Trinidad's name in wrap scandal. Trinidad Wraps were much different than Margarito's http://***********.com/images/stories/rokstories/Nazim_Richardson.jpg To me, Trinidad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trinidad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand. The Ring: What happened in Trinidad's locker room?*NR:*When I came into the room, I think it was his left hand that was already wrapped. I asked for the bylaws about hand wraps before the fight. I didn't see the hand get wrapped. Someone from Hopkins' camp had to be there to witness the hands being wrapped. I spoke to a commissioner about it. he said that he was there to watch his hand get wrapped. Then I asked him, "Do you work for the Hopkins camp??" I think I asked him twice. He said, no, so I told the commissioner I wanted to see Trinidad get his hands wrapped again - both of them. Before you know it, Papa Trinidad flipped out and went off, and people in the room started threatening me (laughs). They said I was scared. I told them I don't have to fight Trinidad tonight, what do I have to be scared about (laughs)? They were telling me Bernard was going to get knocked out. I didn't want to budge from what I knew was right. If something happened to Bernard, and something came out later about Trinidad's hand wraps, I would have blamed myself. It would have been because I didn't do my job. The Ring:*How crazy did it get? NR:*Real crazy. The Trinidad people brought in the HBO people and The Ring: What did you see? NR. I noticed that Papa was layering too much tape and gauze on Tito's hand, and that wasn't allowed. It was amazing. The commission was there, watching and no one said anything. Papa Trinidad said that every time they fought at MSG, that's the way he wrapped his hands. I told him, "Not against my guy." The athletic commission told him the proper way to wrap the hand and he wrapped it the right way. Watching another fighter get his hands wrapped, which would normally take 10, maybe 15 minutes, took an hour to get resolved. I wasn't budging from my stands. That's because I was right, backed by fact. I had to say something. There were no doubts whatsoever. There's nothing I would change from that night. I can smile, because I like being in position to protect my guy. The rest is history. Think about this: No one before or since stopped William Joppy the way Trinidad did to him. I don't know and I can't say if Trinidad wrapped his hands a certain way or not in any of his previous fights. All I can say is what I saw that night with Bernard.*I watched Bernard beat Joppy to death, but no one put him down like Trinidad did. That's all I can say." ummmmm Eastman rocked the hell out of Joppy, and he's no power puncher, Hopkins has never been a huge banger, Trinidad has been known as one his entire career, that's all there is to it Mr. Fantastic will ignore this and continue to compare it the way that Margo cheated to justify it. He is wrapped by Margo's nut sack

I like Joppy because he's from my hometown but he got BLASTED against Trinidad.

Joppy is making himself look like a clown. The way Tito got his hands wrapped DOES NOT give you more punching power. That's like if I were to teach a college class and required my students to take their exams using pen and one student decided to use a pencil. Yea it was illegal/wrong to use the pencil on the exam but it wasn't cheating. If Tito's hand wraps were considered cheating, he and his team would have been penalized for it.

Trinidad did get busted in the next fight from the same guy that got Margarito. :D I agree with his stance on steroids in a way. It would be a good deterrent for guys at the elite level. busted for what? they didn't like how he wrapped? oh no..... too much gauze.... too much tape..... please. everyone complains about other guys wraps. a lot of it mind games or whining. look at roach. he *****es about something every prefight to play mind games.

Joppy needs to take his L like a man smh.

Trinidad did get busted in the next fight from the same guy that got Margarito. :D I agree with his stance on steroids in a way. It would be a good deterrent for guys at the elite level. So the guy who has 3 failed steroid test should not get in even though he wears a hat that say's TBE

Here's a very detailed interview with Naazim Richardson that NATAS took the time to type up from RING magazine after the Margarito incident. In it, he discusses both handwrap controversies. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321500 Seems like Tito had too much tape and gauze, but no tape directly on the skin.

Nazim richardson : To me, Trinidad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trinidad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand.

Richardson clears Trinidad's name in wrap scandal. Trinidad Wraps were much different than Margarito's http://***********.com/images/stories/rokstories/Nazim_Richardson.jpg To me, Trinidad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trinidad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand. The Ring: What happened in Trinidad's locker room?*NR:*When I came into the room, I think it was his left hand that was already wrapped. I asked for the bylaws about hand wraps before the fight. I didn't see the hand get wrapped. Someone from Hopkins' camp had to be there to witness the hands being wrapped. I spoke to a commissioner about it. he said that he was there to watch his hand get wrapped. Then I asked him, "Do you work for the Hopkins camp??" I think I asked him twice. He said, no, so I told the commissioner I wanted to see Trinidad get his hands wrapped again - both of them. Before you know it, Papa Trinidad flipped out and went off, and people in the room started threatening me (laughs). They said I was scared. I told them I don't have to fight Trinidad tonight, what do I have to be scared about (laughs)? They were telling me Bernard was going to get knocked out. I didn't want to budge from what I knew was right. If something happened to Bernard, and something came out later about Trinidad's hand wraps, I would have blamed myself. It would have been because I didn't do my job. The Ring:*How crazy did it get? NR:*Real crazy. The Trinidad people brought in the HBO people and The Ring: What did you see? NR. I noticed that Papa was layering too much tape and gauze on Tito's hand, and that wasn't allowed. It was amazing. The commission was there, watching and no one said anything. Papa Trinidad said that every time they fought at MSG, that's the way he wrapped his hands. I told him, "Not against my guy." The athletic commission told him the proper way to wrap the hand and he wrapped it the right way. Watching another fighter get his hands wrapped, which would normally take 10, maybe 15 minutes, took an hour to get resolved. I wasn't budging from my stands. That's because I was right, backed by fact. I had to say something. There were no doubts whatsoever. There's nothing I would change from that night. I can smile, because I like being in position to protect my guy. The rest is history. Think about this: No one before or since stopped William Joppy the way Trinidad did to him. I don't know and I can't say if Trinidad wrapped his hands a certain way or not in any of his previous fights. All I can say is what I saw that night with Bernard.*I watched Bernard beat Joppy to death, but no one put him down like Trinidad did. That's all I can say." ummmmm Eastman rocked the hell out of Joppy, and he's no power puncher, Hopkins has never been a huge banger, Trinidad has been known as one his entire career, that's all there is to it

Poor Joppy. He has evidently been butthurt for many years now lol. You'd think he'd be more pissed about Hopkins. Hopkins beat him up much worse than Trinidad did, IMO. Trinidad disposed of him quite easily and quickly, whereas Hopkins put a beating on him for a full 12 rounds. If it was me - I'd much rather blame the downfall of my career on a sustained beating over the course of 12 rounds than blaming it on a relatively quick 5th round TKO. I'd think the type of sustained beating he got from Hopkins would have a much worse effect on his career and health than the quick KO Tito gave him.