Right now I gotta go with ggg..
Froch a few years ago would probably win, but vs groves he looked old and slow, has zero head movement and bad habit of standing straight up... I don't think ggg will be able to miss him and I think it spells doom for froch.. Froch is def on the downhill slide, and ggg would pummel him ATM
Yea for now, I'd go with Froch. I've never seen him troubled by a pressure fighter. That's the style he looks best against. A fight I'd love to see tho.
Then you haven't seen his fight against Johnson.
Most people look like they're good on the inside when their opponent is shelled up in survival mode. He puts his shots together very well alright but it's not his offence that's the problem. How well would he slip Carl's shots or tie him up when he charges in? That's what really sank Groves. When Carl stepped in he was basically defenceless.
If Golovkin could keep Froch on the outside I think he'd win. But I don't know how well he'd cope if he couldn't keep Froch off of him. Froch is no inside fighter either but exchanges at close quarters tend to go his way.
I don't think Froch would get too close to GGG. I think he'd fight GGG on the backfoot, like he fought Abraham and Johnson. Jab, flurry and circle, with some hard bodyshots mixed in. Froch likes to spend a lot of time at mid-range which is the killzone for GGG.
Does anyone know how many 12 round fights GGG has been in? Sometimes when guys are that dam good and have a high KO percentage they just fall apart when they can't knock a guy out. I'd just like to see GGG up against a solid old CHAMPION like Sturm, Martinez, Kessler or Abraham.
Never been 12. But like Froch, he does well after 6 rounds. Even if you give him problems early, rounds 8/9/10 is when he unleashes hell.
I'm surprised at the poll results.
Are you really?
It's NSB, Brandon Rios beats Floyd Mayweather Jr. and fighters who are untested at the top level in their weight class, beat top 5 fighters of the weight class above them.
GGG also beat Kessler.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615615
I favor ggg in FOTY. Froch would be the ultimate test for ggg. If he passes that he's super legit imo.
please tell me you've seen the cotto - martinez 24/7...
I voted Froch, but I was about to rage if Froch was now up on the poll. Months ago this was asked already and GGG won by landslide, he also beat Kessler in a poll I made. Good to see the tards being consistent with their fantasy match up predictions. I hate seeing fickle fans jump on and off bandwagons after a fight.
Froch wins by UD IMO.
Does anyone know how many 12 round fights GGG has been in? Sometimes when guys are that dam good and have a high KO percentage they just fall apart when they can't knock a guy out. I'd just like to see GGG up against a solid old CHAMPION like Sturm, Martinez, Kessler or Abraham.
maybe. he's never gone beyond the 10th round.
he's been boxing forever. he had a long ass amateur career. i'm sure he knows how to box when he's tired.
he might not know how to make adjustments late and win, but i seriously doubt he falls apart when he gets tired.
Like the two men you refer to, he counterpunches very effectively on the front foot. Unlike them he doesn't catch or slip a lot of shots and he displays very little head movement.
He doesn't slip punches as well as Chavez Sr and (especially) Duran but just because he doesn't slip punches doesn't mean he doesn't have a good defence. The fact that his main methods of defence tend not to involve slipping punches then surely the head movement criticism is somewhat off base. He does catch punches very well and doesn't get caught flush too often. He is certainly no defensive wizard but his offense is the strongest part of his game.
Incorrect.... Froch is 6' 1" GGG is 5ft10. Froch has a 75" reach to GGG's 70. That's a considerable advantage.
Both guys have a 24" reach from armpit to the end of the fist.
Does anyone know how many 12 round fights GGG has been in? Sometimes when guys are that dam good and have a high KO percentage they just fall apart when they can't knock a guy out. I'd just like to see GGG up against a solid old CHAMPION like Sturm, Martinez, Kessler or Abraham.
People who think Golovkin has a poor defence must surely be the same people who think Duran or Chavez had poor defences. Golovkin's defence is certainly not great but it is very good, he catches a lot of punches with his gloves and arms and judges range well too. It is easier (although still difficult) to have a great defence when you are predominantly a defensive fighter than if you are a come forward and aggressive pressure fighter.
I think Golovkin might be the man to knock Froch out. If Golovkin can't do it then I doubt anyone can.
Like the two men you refer to, he counterpunches very effectively on the front foot. Unlike them he doesn't catch or slip a lot of shots and he displays very little head movement.
Froch is a big dude, and could easily move to light heavy of needed.. GGG would be at a weight disadvantage on the fight night, along with height and reach.
Froch would keep him at bay with his long jab, and may even stop him late on.