How can you guys call David Haye a "coward", yet call Canelo a "warrior"? Let's compare their performances against Wlad and Floyd respectively.
David Haye fought Wladimir Klitschko, a giant who outweighed Haye by at least 30-40 pounds on fight night and has the power to render Haye unconscious with one punch. Yet David Haye gave it all he could, catching Wlad with some big shots and making Wlad hold on for dear life in the 12th round. Unfortunately David went into the fight with a broken toe and could not push off the back foot, so alot of his hayemakers fell just short of crushing Wlad's chin. However, although David lost all the rounds, many of the rounds were extremely close and really could have gone either way, with Wlad just barely edging it out.
Haye was the one going for the knock out that night against Klitschko who clinched and held on for dear life.
Canelo on the otherhand, outweighed the pillow-fisted Floyd by 20 pounds on fight night, yet starting from the opening bell Canelo fought like a scared puppy. It was pathetic to watch. Canelo was far bigger and far stronger than Floyd, yet he never committed to his offense and was pulling his punches the whole night. He gave little Floyd far too much respect. In reality, if Canelo had given Floyd no respect and went for broke, he may have beaten Floyd, as the smaller Maidana had demonstrated. Canelo was SHUT OUT for 12 rounds and none of the rounds were close.
Canelo was far heavier and stronger than Floyd and yet it was Floyd who was going for the knock out.
So tell me again, how is Haye a coward yet Consuelo a warrior? Double-standards much? Canelo claimed he was "born ready" against Floyd and that all of Mexico will never forget September 14th, yet after the fight no one criticized him for his boastful talk like they did to Haye. Why?
Canelo so fighting a brutal schedule, something haye never did..
Unbeaten trout
Unbeaten Floyd
Angulo
Lara
It doesn't get much more difficult for 4 straight fights in a row
Naw im afraid you are the one who is about to GTFO
Nope I'm still here, you need to GTFO of my thread and let the real boxing fans talk.
Go clean a TMT toilet or something.
It really was because David Haye talked so much prior to the fight.
I was really hoping he would beat Wladimir too, as I enjoy watching David Haye, but he laid an egg against Wlad.
That is just the way many people saw it.
Bring something to the discussion or gtfo. Why the fk do you care if someone else is an alt enough to comment about it.
Naw im afraid you are the one who is about to GTFO
They both lost convincingly to the best guys in their divisions - neither are cowards, don't pay attention to the trolls.
You're right. Haye haters are mostly trolls.
Because his an English fighter and this board is mostly American, Americans are dumb.
Lol, interesting point.
TS is the alt of a banned poster named Wenpire. Same agenda, same wording
You're a little newbie at this site and likely an alt yourself, so why are you calling other posters alts?
I've been a Haye fan since he first began his career, what alt are you talking about and why the fk would you care if someone else is an alt? Worry about yourself kid.
TS is the alt of a banned poster named Wenpire. Same agenda, same wording
You're a little newbie at this site and likely an alt yourself, so why are you calling other posters alts?
I've been a Haye fan since he first began his career, what alt are you talking about and why the fk would you care if someone else is an alt? Worry about yourself kid.
I think Canelo did better against Floyd than Haye did with Wlad. Had more success during the fight, won more rounds, took the loss a lot better, didn't embarass himself and didn't come out with some of the most ridiculous excuses ever heard from a fighter.
Everything you said here is wrong lol. Canelo did not have more success than Haye, Canelo landed about 2 punches in 12 rounds and was thoroughly shut out and was given a boxing lesson, never even had a single moment in the fight. Haye landed many good punches and had Wlad holding for dear life in the 12th, and a lot of the rounds were toss-ups. Just look at Floyd's face compared to Wlad's face after their fights, Floyd's face was unmarked while Wlad's face was very bruised.
I'd say Canelo embarrassed himself a lot worse considering the fact that Canelo fought a little pillow-fisted guy he outweighed by 20 pounds and never even used his strength to try to win. Haye fought a guy who outweighed HIM by 35 pounds yet Haye was the one trying to make the fight. Canelo took the loss better? You have got to be kidding. Canelo's face looked like a puppy after getting run over by a car after the fight. Haye was fine with himself.
As for excuses, Haye had a legitimate excuse in that he had a broken toe. Canelo in later interviews would say he lost because he was "drained". Lol he was "drained" even though he beat Austin Trout at 153. Yea one pound made him lose the fight.
You want to disrespect Haye, you would have to disrespect Canelo's performance too. Otherwise your logic doesn't make sense.
Haye fought a cowardly fight after talking ten tons of crap about knocking Wlad's head off and you bringing Canelo into it won't change that fact. You are clearly an over the top Haye fan. You are really trying hard to defend him by bring in Canelo who has nothing at all to do with Haye. People saw what they saw in Haye's disgraceful fight with Wlad and nothing you say will change even one person's mind about it. Haye has fought many good fights so you should talk about those fights instead of reminding every one about his very poor showing in the Wlad fight.
How did Haye fight a cowardly fight when he continuously leaped in against Wlad trying to take Wlad's head off? Wlad was the one clinching on for dear life everytime Haye touched him, all the clinches were initiated by Wlad, not Haye. I want to talk about Haye's fight with Wlad because it was not a bad performance at all considering Haye fought the greatest HW of this era while unable push off the back foot. Mike Tyson said Haye did a good job, I'll take Tyson's word over yours.
Haye ran all fight and hardly threw any punches and he fell down on purpose about 100 times. Canelo fought a stupid fight against Mayweather but he threw a fair amount of punches and came forward the whole fight. He didn't run away from Floyd like a scared rabbit the way Haye did in the Wlad fight.
Fell down on purpose 100 times? Seriously where the FK do you guys come up with bullsh!et like that? Haye was pushed to the canvas 5-6 times, that's what happens when you fight 250 pound Clinchko who uses his weight to push you down when you have a broken toe.
Canelo outweighed Floyd by 20 pounds and hit much harder than Floyd, Floyd never had the power to KO Canelo yet Canelo allowed himself to get backed up into corners and was never even in the fight.
Haye was outweighed by 30 pounds against a devastating puncher in Wlad who could end his life with one punch, yet Haye tried to make it a fight and connected on some good shots that bruised Wlad's face. Canelo was the scared rabbit, not Haye.
You want to call Haye a coward, you must call Canelo a coward too. You can have your own opinions but not your own facts.
Haye's performance on the night was not so bad really. it was his mouth that got him into trouble, he talked so much crap before the fight and then didn't deliver on it. If he had been respectful in the build up etc etc and had then been out pointed in one of wlad's more competitive recent fights I don't think anybody would have given him a hard time.
Haye fought a cowardly fight after talking ten tons of crap about knocking Wlad's head off and you bringing Canelo into it won't change that fact. You are clearly an over the top Haye fan. You are really trying hard to defend him by bring in Canelo who has nothing at all to do with Haye. People saw what they saw in Haye's disgraceful fight with Wlad and nothing you say will change even one person's mind about it. Haye ran all fight and hardly threw any punches and he fell down on purpose about 100 times. Haye has fought many good fights so you should talk about those fights instead of reminding every one about his very poor showing in the Wlad fight. Canelo fought a stupid fight against Mayweather but he threw a fair amount of punches and came forward the whole fight. He didn't run away from Floyd like a scared rabbit the way Haye did in the Wlad fight.
Weird comparison but you're giving Haye far too much credit for his dismal showing against Wlad. He spent most of the build up disrespecting all of Wlad's previous opponents and fought more scared than most of them.
Not a Klitschko fan at all but your comments on that fight are delusional.
Neither fighter you talk about is even close to being a coward and I agree Canelo's showing against Floyd was pretty poor although if we're comparing the fights, I think Canelo did better against Floyd than Haye did with Wlad. Had more success during the fight, won more rounds, took the loss a lot better, didn't embarass himself and didn't come out with some of the most ridiculous excuses ever heard from a fighter.
neither one is anything close to a coward. they not only both fight for a living but have reached the top of that profession as world champions. anyone calling them cowards behind the safety of a computer screen is not only a true coward but a complete moron for not realizing how ridiculous they come across.
whats next? are all scientists retards because they havent invented a fool proof cure for cancer yet? yet mr couch potato is a genius for doing absolutely nothing in the matter himself.. makes sense..
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