The current no. 1 at SMW is Andre Ward. He hasn't fought an opponent with a pulse in nearly 3 years and doesn't appear headed for a bout any time soon.
Is it reasonable to replace Andre Ward with Carl Froch if Froch beats Groves on saturday?
Based on resume, Froch is already ahead of Ward. And I like Ward quite a bit more than Froch (not that I dislike Froch). Current rankings aren't based on past glories, it's what have you done lately. Andre Ward has great skills, but he hasn't done anything in quite a while. He is becoming irrelevant and his prime is wasting away.
George Groves has always been a pretty fast fighter. Pretty explosive as well.
Faster than Ward? I don't think so. But he's pretty quick.
His speed is rather average.
Yep the fight was an absolute slopfest, people seem to think being faster than Froch makes you fast LOL
George Groves has always been a pretty fast fighter. Pretty explosive as well.
Faster than Ward? I don't think so. But he's pretty quick.
it's amazing how the same group of people can feel one way about guillermo rigondeaux, and a completely opposite way about andre ward.
Rigondeaux and Klitschko (check his opponents between David Haye in 2011 and Povetkin in 2013, no one would claim he should have been dropped from no.1 in that period) too.
At the end of the day if your personal ranking system ends up with the best fighter in the division not being no.1, then you have a sh*t system.
faster :lol1:
groves was getting timed by f#cking carl froch. froch was hitting him with combinations by the end of the fight.
Yep the fight was an absolute slopfest, people seem to think being faster than Froch makes you fast LOL
tear down this wall.
http://onlychamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Andre-Ward.jpg
"tear down this wall when I leave court with success (never) and come out of Oakland to take on all comers (never) and when you'll give me the larger share of the purse even though I only sell 3k tickets in my home town and never been close a ppv fight (never) and when I actually decide to fight (every 18 months)".
I've got to admit, it's a tough wall to tear down these days.
yupp if froch wins im replacing his ass on my p4p list with his inactive, complaining, and sense of self worth, and demands, fckng Floyd mayfeather blueprint of a boxing career.
Ward could risk getting Hatton'd as he'd be trying to clinch for the whole fight against a guy faster and heavier handed than he is.
faster :lol1:
groves was getting timed by f#cking carl froch. froch was hitting him with combinations by the end of the fight.
Struggling to justify Ward being Number 1 now, after only beating rodriguez. He also fought Goosen twice, getting knocked out both times. Not the best resume in the past few years.
It's amazing how a fighter who whips a soft punch and initiates a clinch for the whole fight gets so much praise like he's the God of boxing smdh.
This guy shouldn't even be in the top ten p4p and many of his ''wins'' should have been DQ's.
it's amazing how the same group of people can feel one way about guillermo rigondeaux, and a completely opposite way about andre ward.
look at how clueless the fanbase is. european fans are intelligent consumers of boxing? really? look at this f#cking poll.
it's an awful look for european boxing. they wouldn't act this way if they actually ahd the best fighter. they'd know carl froch isn't the best SMW in the world after a victory over george groves.
teh funny thing is that groves would be considered a cherrypick if he hand't fought froch in the first fight, and instead fought ward.
it's also completely being discounted that froch looked 900 years old in the groves fight, and would get his ass whooped worse if he actually had the nuts to fight the prince.
Ah. I see.
Well it's your opinion and it's ok. The thing is that Ward has done so little in the past three years, that about 50% of NSB thinks he has to be removed from the no. 1 slot. People dont feel you can stay there based on old results.
What do mean bro?
look at how clueless the fanbase is. european fans are intelligent consumers of boxing? really? look at this f#cking poll.
it's an awful look for european boxing. they wouldn't act this way if they actually ahd the best fighter. they'd know carl froch isn't the best SMW in the world after a victory over george groves.
teh funny thing is that groves would be considered a cherrypick if he hand't fought froch in the first fight, and instead fought ward.
it's also completely being discounted that froch looked 900 years old in the groves fight, and would get his ass whooped worse if he actually had the nuts to fight the prince.
Ward beat Chad Dawson and unbeaten North American champ Rodriguez. Froch got his arse kicked by unbeaten commonwealth champ.
Ward is the champ, you're kidding yourself if you count the Froch v Groves winner as better than him.
this is a bad look for british fans. american fans just don't do this. they don't.
this is what a child does. act like you've been there (even if carl froch hasn't.)
"'eeee was the second best fighter in the division, our carl was!"
he fought in the end of november, and you want to remove him for a guy he pounded on based on what? inactivity? ranking boards almost universally ask a fighter to have a fight scheduled roughly within a year. he fought in f#cking november....
do you have any idea how many championship fighters have had a layoff for more than seven months? it's not even f#cking june yet :lol1:
andre ward hit froch so hard it scrambled the brains of british fans:lol1:
this young king is the top dog in the division. he f#cking destroyed froch and kessler. get over it.