Updated P4P List

Good list but i would have roman Gonzalez in the top 10.. just misses out, but he is one to watch out for but personally, dont think he is ready for the top 10 just yet.

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Good list but i would have roman Gonzalez in the top 10..

The criteria is : Resume Skill, in comparison to other fighters, irregardless of weight Golovkin 12th? The guy don't even belong on the list. There isn't a single fighter there who doesn't have a resume 5x his and as for skill, he has shown his limitations a bag of times against C level opposition a weight below. He has done nothing. If you put the bum ass level of competition he has fought with a less skilled fighter off that list, say a Marco Huck, he'd look like the second coming of Tyson too Its almost like having Deontay Wilder near the top 10

What kinda list is that? Floyd Joy Mayweather isnt #1,#2,#3,#4, and #5 at the same time? God you must be a Pacballsniffer....god whats wrong with you haters lol. :notworthy lol yeah I know, my bad Is Uchiyama that good? I haven't seen the guy myself yeah he is, watch him on youtube. terrific fighter 1. floyd mayweather jr 2. andre ward 3. bernard hopkins 4. guillermo rigondeaux 5. adonis stevenson 6. danny garcia 7. manny pacquiao 8. wlad klit 9. sergio martinez 10. carl froch wow......garcia AND stevenson above Pacman and wlad doesnt even make the top 5? yet hopkins does...... Decent list. But how is Canelo #11 but Lara ain't even top 25?? I honestly couldn't find a place for him there, he'd make number 26. His best opponent was a slow arse ANgulo who battered and dropped him but sadly didnt have the heart to continue. the trout win was good but not great as trout has done little since beating cotto, although i still rate him.

Is Uchiyama that good? I haven't seen the guy myself

He moves Maidana up "some 10 places" because of what he did in the Floyd fight in which he LOST. That's how you know Floyd is the best, you have a whole country celebrating your performance in your defeat and you have people actually moving you up in there P4P lists :rofl: :rofl:

Decent list. But how is Canelo #11 but Lara ain't even top 25??

Let's not act like 175 is an ocean of talent. Other than Kovalev, Stevenson, and Hopkins, there aren't that many great fighters. So? He beat the man in his division, absolutely destroyed him and beat two legit guys and avenged his only loss, all in one year. His power and skill makes him a handful for anyone p4p. IMO any top 10 list with 4 WWs (or 4 of any one weightclass) is shit. LOL you don't think Mayweather, Pacquiao, Bradley and JMM are amongst the very best on the planet? get your chain smoking, skinny arse off my thread.

I normally update my P4P list in June and then again in December but I'm making it a bit earlier this year as I'm missing most of June on holiday. So here goes: 1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Timothy Bradley 4. Sergio Martinez 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. Guillermo Rigondeaux 7. Juan Manuel Marquez 8. Carl Froch 9. Adonis Stevenson 10. Danny Garcia 11. Saul Alvarez 12. Gennady Golovkin 13. Marcos Maidana 14. Ruslan Provodnikov 15. Lucas Matthysse 16. Sergey Kovalev 17. Takashi Uchiyama 18. Roman Gonzalez 19. Bernard Hopkins 20. Mikey Garcia 21. Leo Santa Cruz 22. Marco Huck 23. Carl Frampton 24. Akira Yaegashi 25. Nonito Donaire Ward is out, far too inactive, Maidana moves up some 10 places after his thrilling performance, Matthysse goes above Kovalev and Hopkins above Mikey. IMO any top 10 list with 4 WWs (or 4 of any one weightclass) is shit.

yes, at 168, Dawson has just beaten Hopkins for THE LINEAL TITLE at LHW, that counts for something. Cloud di lose to Hopkins but that's his only loss and he is a former titlist, Bellew has a decent run of fights and was a legitimate contender. Believe it or not, not all contenders have great resumes, that's why they're called contenders. On top of that, with his power, speed and good skill set, I can't see many guys at 175 beating him, possibly Kovalev or Ward if he moves up. Who else? No one. Looking through boxing at a glance, not taking into account weight (the whole idea of of p4p) there aren't too many guys I'd favour to beat Stevenson, the form he's been for the last 18 months or so. Let's not act like 175 is an ocean of talent. Other than Kovalev, Stevenson, and Hopkins, there aren't that many great fighters.

Dawson was coming off a loss to Ward in a fight where he was drained, Cloud was coming off a loss to Hopkins, and really, what was Bellew's best win? yes, at 168, Dawson has just beaten Hopkins for THE LINEAL TITLE at LHW, that counts for something. Cloud di lose to Hopkins but that's his only loss and he is a former titlist, Bellew has a decent run of fights and was a legitimate contender. Believe it or not, not all contenders have great resumes, that's why they're called contenders. On top of that, with his power, speed and good skill set, I can't see many guys at 175 beating him, possibly Kovalev or Ward if he moves up. Who else? No one. Looking through boxing at a glance, not taking into account weight (the whole idea of of p4p) there aren't too many guys I'd favour to beat Stevenson, the form he's been for the last 18 months or so.

WOW that's a great list. As accurate as any I've seen, glad to see my boy Uchiyama getting his dues. if only he had a better resume, the guy would be so much higher, he has the makings of an exceptional fighter.

Thanks man! Beat the number one LHW on the planet in a brutal first round KO, beaten a former champ and a legitimate number one contender. The criteria is : Resume Skill, in comparison to other fighters, irregardless of weight I try to keep this as recent as possible, usually looking over a period of 2-3 years, although historic achievements for great fighters must still be kept in consideration. Obviously by historic I don't mean 10 years ago. Ward is absent cos he hasn't been active. timmy is up there cos in recent fights he has won one and lost one against two great fighters. And went to war and came out a winner against one of the hardest hitting guys on the planet. Stretching back a bit further, his accomplishments at 140 were great too, add to that his skill set, chin, heart and determination and he is one of the very best on the planet. Dawson was coming off a loss to Ward in a fight where he was drained, Cloud was coming off a loss to Hopkins, and really, what was Bellew's best win?

I always like your lists, you do know your boxing. Another excellent post m8. Again it's obviously hard to agree with every placement on a pound for pound list especially one with 20 boxers and while I do feel hopkins should be higher, it is an excellent list. Thanks man! What has Stevenson done to be ranked 9th? Beat the number one LHW on the planet in a brutal first round KO, beaten a former champ and a legitimate number one contender. Cool, although I dont agree with the list. I keep looking at it and trying to figure out the critiera used to coming up with the whole thing but it just looks like a favorites list. I see the likes of Froch, absense of Ward, and Timmy in the upper echelon and I start to think its actually a list based off resumes. A Pound for Pound list is supposed to consist of the top fighters skill wise(not resumes or popularity) that would be dominate at any weight class given their skill level. The criteria is : Resume Skill, in comparison to other fighters, irregardless of weight I try to keep this as recent as possible, usually looking over a period of 2-3 years, although historic achievements for great fighters must still be kept in consideration. Obviously by historic I don't mean 10 years ago. Ward is absent cos he hasn't been active. timmy is up there cos in recent fights he has won one and lost one against two great fighters. And went to war and came out a winner against one of the hardest hitting guys on the planet. Stretching back a bit further, his accomplishments at 140 were great too, add to that his skill set, chin, heart and determination and he is one of the very best on the planet.

I normally update my P4P list in June and then again in December but I'm making it a bit earlier this year as I'm missing most of June on holiday. So here goes: 1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Timothy Bradley 4. Sergio Martinez 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. Guillermo Rigondeaux 7. Juan Manuel Marquez 8. Carl Froch 9. Adonis Stevenson 10. Danny Garcia 11. Saul Alvarez 12. Gennady Golovkin 13. Marcos Maidana 14. Ruslan Provodnikov 15. Lucas Matthysse 16. Sergey Kovalev 17. Takashi Uchiyama 18. Roman Gonzalez 19. Bernard Hopkins 20. Mikey Garcia 21. Leo Santa Cruz 22. Marco Huck 23. Carl Frampton 24. Akira Yaegashi 25. Nonito Donaire Ward is out, far too inactive, Maidana moves up some 10 places after his thrilling performance, Matthysse goes above Kovalev and Hopkins above Mikey. WOW that's a great list. As accurate as any I've seen, glad to see my boy Uchiyama getting his dues.

What has Stevenson done to be ranked 9th?

Cool, although I dont agree with the list. I keep looking at it and trying to figure out the critiera used to coming up with the whole thing but it just looks like a favorites list. I see the likes of Froch, absense of Ward, and Timmy in the upper echelon and I start to think its actually a list based off resumes. A Pound for Pound list is supposed to consist of the top fighters skill wise(not resumes or popularity) that would be dominate at any weight class given their skill level.

I always like your lists, you do know your boxing. Another excellent post m8. Again it's obviously hard to agree with every placement on a pound for pound list especially one with 20 boxers and while I do feel hopkins should be higher, it is an excellent list.

1. Floyd Rest is subjective to person writing list