Will Haymon be forced to work with Oscar De La Hoya and HBO?

this is not up to date it looks like its what wiki has as raushee warren is with haymon but none the less if he has control over these fighters and the rumors are true that they have no ties to gbp on paper then no wonder oscar is running to bob all he has is canelo i bet hes thanking god for that lol That list is useless if the fighters in it rarely fight. Khan, Matthysse, Berto, Guerrero and many others are now fighting an average of one fight a year. A number of them are only seen on PPV. Showtime subscribers have been screwed. Their non PPV fights are extremely rare, anyways. Fans, in general, have been patient. You're making mountains out of crap. Forget it. Schaefer/Haymon will disappear and Oscar will be just fine. Forget it.

good question i was also wondering heard someone say haymon cant work with top rank fighters are promotional companies even allowed to dictate managers? The Ali Act prohibits any agent from acting as both a promoter and a manager as I understand it. The manger is supposed to act in the fighter's interest in negotiations with the promoter. When those two parties are on the same side the fighter inevitably gets screwed. That's why the question of additional investors is so important in the context of a GBP/Haymon split. Haymon can't just walk away unless he has somewhere to walk away to. Someone has to put the cash up.

Client list Fighters who are currently or were previously represented by Haymon include: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Adonis Stevenson Amir Khan Peter Quillin Josesito Lopez Erislandy Lara Cristobal Arreola Devon Alexander Adrien Broner Kyrone Davis Andre Berto Danny Garcia Austin Trout Lamont Peterson Anthony Peterson Seth Mitchell Gary Russell Jr. Antonio Tarver Sakio Bika Vernon Forrest Lamon Brewster Jermain Taylor J'Leon Love Omar Figueroa Paul Williams Leo Santa Cruz John Molina, Jr. Deontay Wilder Lucas Matthysse Chris Pearson Errol Spence Marcos Maidana Julian Williams Keith Thurman Paulie Malignaggi Robert Guerrero Shawn Porter Luis Collazo Rances Barthelemy this is not up to date it looks like its what wiki has as raushee warren is with haymon but none the less if he has control over these fighters and the rumors are true that they have no ties to gbp on paper then no wonder oscar is running to bob all he has is canelo i bet hes thanking god for that lol

Can Haymon own equity in a promotional firm and still be a manager? good question i was also wondering heard someone say haymon cant work with top rank fighters are promotional companies even allowed to dictate managers?

if all these fighters are not tied to gbp then no wonder oscar is freaking out

6 million a year between richard floyd and al haymon bro if they wanted a pro company it will end up the biggest Can Haymon own equity in a promotional firm and still be a manager?

Client list Fighters who are currently or were previously represented by Haymon include: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Adonis Stevenson Amir Khan Peter Quillin Josesito Lopez Erislandy Lara Cristobal Arreola Devon Alexander Adrien Broner Kyrone Davis Andre Berto Danny Garcia Austin Trout Lamont Peterson Anthony Peterson Seth Mitchell Gary Russell Jr. Antonio Tarver Sakio Bika Vernon Forrest Lamon Brewster Jermain Taylor J'Leon Love Omar Figueroa Paul Williams Leo Santa Cruz John Molina, Jr. Deontay Wilder Lucas Matthysse Chris Pearson Errol Spence Marcos Maidana Julian Williams Keith Thurman Paulie Malignaggi Robert Guerrero Shawn Porter Luis Collazo Rances Barthelemy

It's costs a lot to run a major promotional company, I read figures like $6 million a year, and it's generally a high risk business. Speculating, but I genuinely don't think FMJ cares enough to get in that deep with promoting to risk the money he earned fighting. 6 million a year between richard floyd and al haymon bro if they wanted a pro company it will end up the biggest

It should be noted if not already that Thurman is signed with Al Haymon... http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Keith_Thurman

Looks like its a yes now

I doubt Oscar is going to run the company by himself. Sure he's obviously trying to mend relationships with HBO and TR. He's going to be the one with connections in the company, but I don't think that means he's going to run the company alone. He's just going to get someone to replace Richard Schaefer. Let's face it, these guys you get to run business side of things are a dime a dozen. It shouldn't be too hard to find a suitable replacement. They are a dime a dozen. At the end of the day, the fighters will always be the stars of the show.

I think Floyd, Schaefer, and probably one other equity investor will really launch mayweather promotions as a company, and use Haymons roster If that happens I don't think Haymon really needs Schaefer, it's not like he's done a good job for GBP or will contribute major capital himself. Agreed regarding Schaefer. If this scenario played out, it puts Mayweather's ball washer Ellerbe in a strange position. That's just too many cocks in the hen house.

He's clearly a highly intelligent guy but he may have pushed things a step too far. He has HBO offside, he has a lawsuit pending with Main Events, messy situation with Golden Boy which is coming out, he has Top Rank offside, the big $32m Sho deal is not sounding as successful as hoped and his main ally Schaefer may no longer be in the game. The fans too are associating his name with not getting what the fights they want. Things are turning on him just a little, you can only lose so many friends in business. This remains the most pertinent post in this thread.

Replacing Schaefer would be the EASY Part but what about finding TALENT, Oscar haven't done a good job at that AT ALL IMO other than Canelo. Oscar pick fighters based on how they LOOK not really how skill or talented they are in the Ring Khan and Victor Ortiz did not work out after he put a lot of work into hyping them when they was at 140 ESPECIALLY Victor! So you can have the NAME and get another guy to replace Shaefer but fans are coming out to see FIGHTERS FIGHT, not just because Oscar name is on it. Lets say Canelo loses to Lara...THEN WHAT FOR OSCAR? Are you suggesting Haymon will take all his fighters with him and work with other promoters? What am I missing? You mean all these fighters listed in the current GBP roster would move en masse to, which promotional company?

I doubt Oscar is going to run the company by himself. Sure he's obviously trying to mend relationships with HBO and TR. He's going to be the one with connections in the company, but I don't think that means he's going to run the company alone. He's just going to get someone to replace Richard Schaefer. Let's face it, these guys you get to run business side of things are a dime a dozen. It shouldn't be too hard to find a suitable replacement. Replacing Schaefer would be the EASY Part but what about finding TALENT, Oscar haven't done a good job at that AT ALL IMO other than Canelo. Oscar pick fighters based on how they LOOK not really how skill or talented they are in the Ring Khan and Victor Ortiz did not work out after he put a lot of work into hyping them when they was at 140 ESPECIALLY Victor! So you can have the NAME and get another guy to replace Shaefer but fans are coming out to see FIGHTERS FIGHT, not just because Oscar name is on it. Lets say Canelo loses to Lara...THEN WHAT FOR OSCAR?

It's strange to me that Thurman is a free agent but signed to Haymon when Thurman is mostly accompanied by Schaefer. It almost seemed like Schaefer wanted it that way. I guess that's what Main Events was talking about when they said Haymon is in violation of the Ali act and acting as a promoter...Going to be interesting to see how that plays out in court Bernard Hopkins always thanks Al Haymon and Richard Schaefer specifically after his fights. Wouldn't surprise me if he's also a free agent with no contract to GBP

Bottom Line...Al Haymon has more POWER IN BOXING than Oscar mostly because he has Mayweather as his bargaining Chip but also because he has the ability to get his fighters A LOT MORE MONEY which is why he is able to get a lot of fighters to sign with HIM Oscar is the NAME, hes lack of stability makes him unreliable IMO, you sign with Oscar he heads back to rehab...THEN WHAT? Now your career is stalled until your Promoter gets his life back together. What would have happened to GBP had it not been for Schaefer and Haymon keeping things going while Oscar went off to get his life together? Oscar is taking the bigger risk trying to do things on his own because all he has is Canelo as a fighter he can claim as "HIS FIGHTER" on that GBP Roster. I am sure he has MORE but most of the big names at the moment on that GBP Roster are Haymon Fighters. Oscar is just the NAME but Schaefer has the KNOW HOW when it comes to setting up events. He wants to end the "Cold War" because he knows he will NEED ARUM and maybe HBO as well if GBP Splits I doubt Oscar is going to run the company by himself. Sure he's obviously trying to mend relationships with HBO and TR. He's going to be the one with connections in the company, but I don't think that means he's going to run the company alone. He's just going to get someone to replace Richard Schaefer. Let's face it, these guys you get to run business side of things are a dime a dozen. It shouldn't be too hard to find a suitable replacement.

It's strange to me that Thurman is a free agent but signed to Haymon when Thurman is mostly accompanied by Schaefer. It almost seemed like Schaefer wanted it that way.

Yeah...aint nobody forcing Al to do JACK!

Thurman and Porter actually said in video interviews they're free agents but signed to Haymon. I think Khan's GBP deal ran out last summer, not sure if he signed a new one but he has since signed with Haymon. Thanks. I just googled it and Keith Thurman does claim to be a free agent. I wonder how many other fighters are in the same boat... I guess Richard Schaefer really was trying to screw over Oscar by not signing them to his promotional company but taking on all the costs to promote their fights. Can't really say I'm surprised he's going to get fired.