Manny Pacquiao vs. Bernard Hopkins. Who do you thing would win, provided that they were around the same size.
This is using your imagination.
Answer both scenarios if you want: now or in their primes.
Not throughout, Pac suffered KD and KO early and late in his career, and out of his prime if we consider Pac was prime from 2000 to 2010.
Roy's speed was unmatchable, that's why he never was hurt.
I think Roy always was chinny.
And to be fair, Pacquiao is related to PEDS because of accusations, unlike Roy who, in his case really failed a drug test in his career.
F Roy's speed. One attribute doesn't beat a great fighter like Manny. What we didn't know about Roy when he was in his prime, was he had a glass jaw. Manny would KO Roy Jones. And the only reason he was never hurt during his prime, is because he ducked his biggest challenges. He fought a lot of Cab drivers, Policemen, Firefighters, etc. He may be the fastest fighter, ever but SO WHAT!!!!!!!!
prime v prime, pacquiao does to hopkins what most volume punchers with tremendous skill have done, beat him. Hops might have some success in the middle rounds but Pac would be too fast, too accurate, too powerful.
Hopkins has turtle shell defense tho....
What?
So now every fast fighter fights exactly the same and every counter puncher fights exactly the same.
Seriously, think about it before you post it.
If you were smart you would know what I'm talking about but since your stupid I'll tell you he would box his ears off got it ?
Pac is tiny. If he was 6feet, he would be scary. He would beat BH. BH in his prime wasn't known to be scary. Rather he hasn't deteriorated much as a 49 year old or whatever age he is now.
If Pac was floyds size 5ft8 and naturally a WW, Floyd wouldn't even dare take Pac as his 5oth fight.
Don't think he was more durable or tougher or stronger. Jones was big at his weight, usually the stronger opponent and had other-worldy stamina. Was barely hurt until he was past his prime, while Pacquiao suffered KO losses and knockdowns throughout his career. Also wasn't as smart, as good defensively, and was matched in speed and power (if not outgunned).
why do you bother when you never get a prediction right?
hopkins isn't beating pacquiao if they are the same size, just look at the styles
a young hopkins will get battered although he'll put up a nice struggle in a very entertaining fight
a savvy, negative, spoiler hopkins gets beaten every round with the same strategy calzaghe used on hopkins late(use his fast feet to keep the distance from hopkins as he attempts his punch-headbutt-clinch combo), except pacquiao is alot more accurate, and hits alot harder
look at what pacquiao did to bradley when tim tried that head-down bullrush sht
Not throughout, Pac suffered KD and KO early and late in his career, and out of his prime if we consider Pac was prime from 2000 to 2010.
Roy's speed was unmatchable, that's why he never was hurt.
I think Roy always was chinny.
And to be fair, Pacquiao is related to PEDS because of accusations, unlike Roy who, in his case really failed a drug test in his career.
He was dropped by Nedal Hussein, rocked several times in his prime and was KO'ed as champ several times. Nothing much else needs to be said. Jones took plenty of punches as a champ and handled himself well. Even took punches from a HW. You're grasping at straws. In their primes, Jones was the better fighter. At worst, on par.
Don't think he was more durable or tougher or stronger. Jones was big at his weight, usually the stronger opponent and had other-worldy stamina. Was barely hurt until he was past his prime, while Pacquiao suffered KO losses and knockdowns throughout his career. Also wasn't as smart, as good defensively, and was matched in speed and power (if not outgunned).
Not throughout, Pac suffered KD and KO early and late in his career, and out of his prime if we consider Pac was prime from 2000 to 2010.
Roy's speed was unmatchable, that's why he never was hurt.
I think Roy always was chinny.
And to be fair, Pacquiao is related to PEDS because of accusations, unlike Roy who, in his case really failed a drug test in his career.
I disagree.
Bradley will end as a hall of famer if his legs allows him to fight 3 more years (he will be 33 then).
Dude unified the 140 division and is a WW champion two.
He has solid wins, handed to Devon his first loss, beat Marquez when the guy was ranked in the top 10 P4P, did well against Pac, and beat a lot of solid contenders like Provo, Campbell, Holt, Witter...
Big difference between a possible HOF'er and ATG. Plus, you're projecting. Right now, he's nowhere near a HOF'er, just a two division champ. Hopkins is an ATG.
He faced someone faster, as powerful and smarter in Jones.
Bradley is to Hopkins what Steve Forbes is to Mayweather.
I disagree.
Bradley will end as a hall of famer if his legs allows him to fight 3 more years (he will be 33 then).
Dude unified the 140 division and is a WW champion two.
He has solid wins, handed to Devon his first loss, beat Marquez when the guy was ranked in the top 10 P4P, did well against Pac, and beat a lot of solid contenders like Provo, Campbell, Holt, Witter...
Pacquiao is a different animal than Roy, Pacquiao as his own qualities, I think he's more durable and tougher than Roy, might be stronger too P4P.
Don't think he was more durable or tougher or stronger. Jones was big at his weight, usually the stronger opponent and had other-worldy stamina. Was barely hurt until he was past his prime, while Pacquiao suffered KO losses and knockdowns throughout his career. Also wasn't as smart, as good defensively, and was matched in speed and power (if not outgunned).
He faced someone faster, as powerful and smarter in Jones.
Bradley is to Hopkins what Steve Forbes is to Mayweather.
Pacquiao is a different animal than Roy, Pacquiao as his own qualities, I think he's more durable and tougher than Roy, might be stronger too P4P.
The maidana's I'm not sure, this division wasn't at his best.
I rate Maidana as a fighter higher than 80% of the guys he faced in his middleweight reign.
I think he faced better competition in his 40s, I mean in his light heavyweight campain.
He did face better competition in his 40's (although Roy Jones, Glen Johnson & co. are nothing to scoff at). Couple of those guys were better than a Maidana-type, a couple weren't. Most likely, few if any posters even watched those fights.
He fought some tough, solid contenders at 160 who didn't have a name. The Maidana's and prime Malignaggi's of that division -- guys who weren't stars but weren't an easy night either. And he dismantled them all easily. And ruined a few of them (Echols).
The maidana's I'm not sure, this division wasn't at his best.
I rate Maidana as a fighter higher than 80% of the guys he faced in his middleweight reign.
I think he faced better competition in his 40s, I mean in his light heavyweight campain.
Obviously he didn't, the closer opponent he faced might be Bradley.
Same for Hopkins, he never faced anyone with Pac abilities.
He faced someone faster, as powerful and smarter in Jones.
Bradley is to Hopkins what Steve Forbes is to Mayweather.
Has Pacquiao ever fought anyone with Hopkins abilities before? Has he ever fought anyone as smart and crafty as Hopkins? Nope. I would say counter punching defensive minded fighters give Pacquiao the most trouble and he's never fought anyone even close to the style and abilities as Hopkins.
Obviously he didn't, the closer opponent he faced might be Bradley.
Same for Hopkins, he never faced anyone with Pac abilities.
Yes, but in this period he fought except a blown up Trinidad all the Antwun Echols and William Joppys of the world (I won't dare mention Morad Hakker).
He fought better competition in his 40s.
He fought some tough, solid contenders at 160 who didn't have a name. The Maidana's and prime Malignaggi's of that division -- guys who weren't stars but weren't an easy night either. And he dismantled them all easily. And ruined a few of them (Echols).
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