Conte speaks

How many damn threads are there on a fighter juicing? Every time you turn around someone is accusing someone else of taking PEDs. It's a problem in sports, and I don't like it, but enough is enough. No one on here knows shit. All it is is fans of one of fighter placing accusations on a fighter they don't like.

Ariza himself WHILE WORKING WITH MANNY SAID MANNY DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS GIVING HIM... So what? And I never heard him say this. I'd like to see it if he in fact did say that.

Ok there is also 0 evidence Juan used PED'S yet it is running wild on here With a lot less evidence, we are going on 5 years now that many Floyd fans still believe that Manny is a PEDs cheat. So not sure why you same Floyd fans are not the least bit concerned about another possible PEDs cheat?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=573772

Conte just jealous that USADA was making millions while his company didn't even have a website yet :lol1:

So mayweather doesnt take Olympic style testing. ok............

Let's be real here. This was said after Ariza kicked Roach in the chest. Now Roach is bad-mouthing him. He had nothing like this to say before so don't take it as gospel. Manny drank Jack-3d before his workouts. pretty sure its all legal. I think there are videos of Ariza talking about it and mixing it for Manny. Also, to say Ariza "learned his craft" from memo is absurd, and very uneducated. The dudes apparently worked together at some point. Ariza is a college educated sports trainer. That's where he "learned his craft" take your agendas elsewhere. Juan is showing signs of drug abuse. Clear as day. Him being on something has nothing to do with Manny being on something. Nothing at all. Ariza himself WHILE WORKING WITH MANNY SAID MANNY DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS GIVING HIM...

FREDDIE ROACH MAKES ACCUSATIONS ABOUT "SHADY" ALEX ARIZA; QUESTIONS MYSTERY DRINK GIVEN TO PACQUIAO "I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," stated world-class trainer Freddie Roach, who made explosive accussations about world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza when recently asked about his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao. According to Roach, he wasn't surprised when he heard the news because, evidently, he also questioned some of the things Ariza did with his star pupil, 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, over the course of the 4-plus years they worked together. Let's be real here. This was said after Ariza kicked Roach in the chest. Now Roach is bad-mouthing him. He had nothing like this to say before so don't take it as gospel. Manny drank Jack-3d before his workouts. pretty sure its all legal. I think there are videos of Ariza talking about it and mixing it for Manny. Also, to say Ariza "learned his craft" from memo is absurd, and very uneducated. The dudes apparently worked together at some point. Ariza is a college educated sports trainer. That's where he "learned his craft" take your agendas elsewhere. Juan is showing signs of drug abuse. Clear as day. Him being on something has nothing to do with Manny being on something. Nothing at all.

:haha: :haha: :haha: Would it be fair if for Pacquaio vs. Marquez 5, Pacquaio only underwent random drug testing through NSAC or VADA, but Marquez doesn't even do random drug testing whatsoever? That wouldn't be fair right? That would be foolish of Team Pacquaio right? Pointless right? Hence the problem with year-round random drug testing if it's not done for most of the fighters.

Jesus Christ. The irony. They're mocking pactards on other threads for having criticised OST. And at the same time they're saying that year round testing is useless and unworkable. This is what fanaticism does to people. Most of these dudes love Floyd so much they're letting their ****s do all the thinking and the typing for them. If year-round testing is not done for the majority -- it is useless! Prove it otherwise. Why should one fighter be doing year-round testing, while potential opponents are not doing the same? Is that even fair? We'll see if you can answer. :nonono:

:haha: :haha: :haha: Jesus Christ. The irony. They're mocking pactards on other threads for having criticised OST. And at the same time they're saying that year round testing is useless and unworkable. This is what fanaticism does to people. Most of these dudes love Floyd so much they're letting their ****s do all the thinking and the typing for them.

so i didn't bother watching the vid whats the synopsis? And in what way is it insinuating something negative about pacquiao as i presume it is.

FREDDIE ROACH MAKES ACCUSATIONS ABOUT "SHADY" ALEX ARIZA; QUESTIONS MYSTERY DRINK GIVEN TO PACQUIAO "I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," stated world-class trainer Freddie Roach, who made explosive accussations about world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza when recently asked about his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao. According to Roach, he wasn't surprised when he heard the news because, evidently, he also questioned some of the things Ariza did with his star pupil, 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, over the course of the 4-plus years they worked together.

Isnt that interview like 3 years old?

dude. it's not even Circumstantial evidence let alone "hard" evidence. it's 100% speculation. you said that it's Circumstantial evidence which is false & i was only correcting you.......... Circumstantial evidence is: if A guy murdered someone & left his socks, shoes, finger prints at the crime scene which would tie them directly to that crime. or in JMM case needles, records of him ordering the drugs. other things as such. theres no evidence whats so ever............ :rofl: :rofl: Man, these dudes are funny.

the testing is easy for athletes to bypass, with all the money at stake you'd be stupid not to take peds

I don't know if you're trying to be technical or are a JMM fanboy. If you think a guy at his age who has shown very visible changes to his physique after hiring a known steroid chemist doesn't raise any red flags then you are naive. I know none of this is "hard" evidence but as a human being, you have the ability of reason and deduction, do you not? dude. it's not even Circumstantial evidence let alone "hard" evidence. it's 100% speculation. you said that it's Circumstantial evidence which is false & i was only correcting you.......... Circumstantial evidence is: if A guy murdered someone & left his socks, shoes, finger prints at the crime scene which would tie them directly to that crime. or in JMM case needles, records of him ordering the drugs. other things as such. theres no evidence whats so ever............

not exactly "proof" but definitely raising the red flags! PEDs in a business where the business is inflicting damage is a very dangerous path. year round random testing is the best option and people like Donaire, who has voluntarily enrolled for such a program, put Pac, JMM, Floyd, etc to shame imo. Year-round random testing is absolutely useless though unless it's done all across the board. The whole purpose is to protect both fighters. You cannot have one fighter doing random testing year-round, and then his opponent(s) are doing NOTHING. And if Donaire tests positive out of competition when he has no fight scheduled, will anything happen to him? NOPE! He's not going to get fined, suspended, nothing. Unless NSAC, California, and other Commissions demand out of competition random testing for the majority of fighters, it is useless unfortunately.

I don't know if you're trying to be technical or are a JMM fanboy. If you think a guy at his age who has shown very visible changes to his physique after hiring a known steroid chemist doesn't raise any red flags then you are naive. I know none of this is "hard" evidence but as a human being, you have the ability of reason and deduction, do you not? not exactly "proof" but definitely raising the red flags! PEDs in a business where the business is inflicting damage is a very dangerous path. year round random testing is the best option and people like Donaire, who has voluntarily enrolled for such a program, put Pac, JMM, Floyd, etc to shame imo.

Oh no, he is at it again. Don't try to reason with him, people. It's pointless. That's pretty fucking compelling right there. I'd say it's pointless to reason with people who deny his PED usage.