Cuban Boxing is Great

I actually think Gamboa can take Crawford.

Yeah, but hey, that's Rigos style and he's damn good at it. Just wish he has some big fights this year. Gamboa for a while was one of my faves....then he became a fool. A damn shame. I used to love that guy. Yuri was electrifying. Then...well, you know the rest. I'm real curious to see what he brings versus Crawford, but I'm not optimistic. Miracles happen, just not very often

LOOL spot on at times! I love watching fluid fighters too, guys like Leonard, Ali or as one of the other posters mentioned, a lil known Cuban called Luis Rodirguez. But at the same time, this is entertainment and all those names were entertaining. Why? Cos they had a killer instint. Rigo, for all his fluidity, doesn't have much of a killer instinct. He should have battered a one eyed Donaire but instead kept taking steps back and it was actually Don who started pressing the action. In modern times, fluid, crisp punchers with great technique include Barrera, Tito, Morales, Pacquiao and possibly Oscar, even though he seemed oddly robotic at times. i dont hold it against rigo that he didnt go after donaire more. part of the reason nonito lost is he kept looking for one big punch, a big counterpunch to be exact. we all know what a devastating puncher he is, i dont see why rigo shouldve messed around with that guy, if the KO comes it comes but if not just get the UD and the biggest win of your career. getting overly aggressive was the kind of xmas gift donaire was praying for so he could knock him out. donaire should have been pressing the action much more than he was, he was the one who needed a KO. in other fights i agree though, agbeko comes to mind.. oscar wasnt very fluid imo, his combinations were and his footwork at times as well but his upper body was very uptight and stiff as a plank. dont consider barrera or morales overly fluid either, attack wise they were but not so much with their movement. when i say fluid i think jose napoles, he was the definition of fluid.

Don't forget Joel Casamayor.

That's been debated to no end around here. But, in Rigo's defense, I'll say that he's a natural counterpuncher who's spent a lifetime in the amateurs. It's tough to shake such an ingrained -- and successful -- approach. I'd love to see Guillermo change his approach a little, but I'm not sure that's a realistic hope anymore. Yeah, but hey, that's Rigos style and he's damn good at it. Just wish he has some big fights this year. Gamboa for a while was one of my faves....then he became a fool. LOL. And the crazy part is they are still dominating with basically their second team. They were supposed to have a fight at the Hard Rock down here back in April but I guess some upper authority realized that would be a terrible idea to give those kids a taste of Miami life. lol LOL I remember the Klit docu when they first went to the US, they loved it hahaha

LOL. And the crazy part is they are still dominating with basically their second team. They were supposed to have a fight at the Hard Rock down here back in April but I guess some upper authority realized that would be a terrible idea to give those kids a taste of Miami life. lol Lmao Yeah, those guys are sharp. :lol1: At this point in time, I think all those cats are likely to bail just about anywhere.

In other words, three of the best fighters on the team. That's like being a Miami Heat fan and they decide to dump LeBron, Wade and Bosh. :lol1: So much for the Cuban government allowing professional anything. It's a sham. LOL. And the crazy part is they are still dominating with basically their second team. They were supposed to have a fight at the Hard Rock down here back in April but I guess some upper authority realized that would be a terrible idea to give those kids a taste of Miami life. lol

I've seen a few events. I stopped following because Robeisy Ramirez, Roniel Iglesias and Julio Cesar La Cruz were off the team. In other words, three of the best fighters on the team. That's like being a Miami Heat fan and they decide to dump LeBron, Wade and Bosh. :lol1: So much for the Cuban government allowing professional anything. It's a sham.

Watch the AIBA World Series of Boxing I've seen a few events. I stopped following because Robeisy Ramirez, Roniel Iglesias and Julio Cesar La Cruz were off the team.

Rigo, for all his fluidity, doesn't have much of a killer instinct. He should have battered a one eyed Donaire but instead kept taking steps back and it was actually Don who started pressing the action. That's been debated to no end around here. But, in Rigo's defense, I'll say that he's a natural counterpuncher who's spent a lifetime in the amateurs. It's tough to shake such an ingrained -- and successful -- approach. I'd love to see Guillermo change his approach a little, but I'm not sure that's a realistic hope anymore.

blocking punches with the forehead and liver. LOOL spot on at times! i personally enjoy watching fluid technicians, its like poetry in motion to me. guys who think and make adjustments as the fight goes on too, i like to see guys battling with their minds to stay one step ahead of the other. then compare their thought process to my own as im watching the fight. rock em sock em robots can be a good change of pace on occasion, but to much of it and i will get bored quickly. i like to learn something about boxing when i watch a fight. everyone loves a puncher though, but i prefer the type of punchers who are patient and set their opponents up with skills and intelligence. like the cuban punchers you speak of. watching rigondeaux set guys up for his left hand and walk them into it over and over again by making subtle adjustments is a thing of beauty. they know its coming but he has so much skill and intelligence he finds ways to tag them regardless, does it while looking like he is taking nice stroll though the park as well. lol. titty pretty, my man. titty pretty. I love watching fluid fighters too, guys like Leonard, Ali or as one of the other posters mentioned, a lil known Cuban called Luis Rodirguez. But at the same time, this is entertainment and all those names were entertaining. Why? Cos they had a killer instint. Rigo, for all his fluidity, doesn't have much of a killer instinct. He should have battered a one eyed Donaire but instead kept taking steps back and it was actually Don who started pressing the action. In modern times, fluid, crisp punchers with great technique include Barrera, Tito, Morales, Pacquiao and possibly Oscar, even though he seemed oddly robotic at times.

i personally enjoy watching fluid technicians, its like poetry in motion to me. guys who think and make adjustments as the fight goes on too, i like to see guys battling with their minds to stay one step ahead of the other. then compare their thought process to my own as im watching the fight. The guy I mentioned earlier, Luis Rodriguez, was such a fighter -- beautiful to watch. It's like watching a champion swimmer glide through the water, effortless and clean. rock em sock em robots can be a good change of pace on occasion, but to much of it and i will get bored quickly. i like to learn something about boxing when i watch a fight. I feel the same way. I can get into these fights like most everyone else, but I can't take a steady diet of them. It's like watching a car crash -- everyone's gotta look, but I can't stare for too long. everyone loves a puncher though, but i prefer the type of punchers who are patient and set their opponents up with skills and intelligence. like the cuban punchers you speak of. watching rigondeaux set guys up for his left hand and walk them into it over and over again by making subtle adjustments is a thing of beauty. they know its coming but he has so much skill and intelligence he finds ways to tag them regardless, does it while looking like he is taking nice stroll though the park as well. lol. titty pretty, my man. titty pretty. I've always preferred the boxer-punchers as well. I can watch guys like "Sugar" Ray Leonard all day long. I consider Rigo more of a technician, though, despite the fact that he can crack.

Watch the AIBA World Series of Boxing i tried to get into that crap. i really did. it's f#Cking awful.

There is such thing as Cuban boxing. It is a different school of boxing, with a different style and training method. If you don't know that each country has differences in styles and schools, then you need to learn more about boxing. There's a Mexican school of boxing, Europeans fight in a certain way, Cuban boxing, etc... blocking punches with the forehead and liver.

yeah, styles are vastly different between various nations, Cuban fighters have often been highly skilled technicians with tremendous defensive sensibilities (doesn't mean they're all boring, some of these guys have been huge punchers). Now take a european fighter, apart from those trained in the Ingle gym, most have a very straight forward, stand up tall, hands up high style. They like to fight behind a steady jab, a decent work rate and guts. IMO it's not a very attractive style but it produces fireworks. i personally enjoy watching fluid technicians, its like poetry in motion to me. guys who think and make adjustments as the fight goes on too, i like to see guys battling with their minds to stay one step ahead of the other. then compare their thought process to my own as im watching the fight. rock em sock em robots can be a good change of pace on occasion, but to much of it and i will get bored quickly. i like to learn something about boxing when i watch a fight. everyone loves a puncher though, but i prefer the type of punchers who are patient and set their opponents up with skills and intelligence. like the cuban punchers you speak of. watching rigondeaux set guys up for his left hand and walk them into it over and over again by making subtle adjustments is a thing of beauty. they know its coming but he has so much skill and intelligence he finds ways to tag them regardless, does it while looking like he is taking nice stroll though the park as well. lol. tittie pretty, my man. tittie pretty.

no, op is right. it has nothing to do with ethnicity and nobody said it did, but there are different schools of boxing in various parts of the world. mexican fighters generally fight a certain way, cubans in another, eastern europeans in their own etc. not everyone chooses to follow the tradition and some fighters box in a manner different from their countrymen. but most fighters who come up in a country with a strong boxing tradition will be a product of that specific system and their style will reflect it. yeah, styles are vastly different between various nations, Cuban fighters have often been highly skilled technicians with tremendous defensive sensibilities (doesn't mean they're all boring, some of these guys have been huge punchers). Now take a european fighter, apart from those trained in the Ingle gym, most have a very straight forward, stand up tall, hands up high style. They like to fight behind a steady jab, a decent work rate and guts. IMO it's not a very attractive style but it produces fireworks.

Like I said earlier, I think Cuban law has changed and Cuban fighters are allowed to turn pro now, that's what I heard some months back. Maybe it is in the works and hasn't been fully implemented. I'm aware that the Cuban government has recently made some changes where they allow their athletes to compete professionally. I don't know all the ins-and-outs, but I do know it's nothing like the freedoms athletes from other countries enjoy. The Cuban government takes a piece out of every dollar that comes in the direction of any of its citizens. Where the athletes are concerned, the government is, let's say, more of a "partner." It's really disgusting, and it makes me sick to think about it as I write. I can't wait till that communist system finally crumbles and disappears from the face of the earth.

yea really. op boxing is boxing it doesnt matter what the hell ethnicity you are the only one that brought it up was you lol. no, op is right. it has nothing to do with ethnicity and nobody said it did, but there are different schools of boxing in various parts of the world. mexican fighters generally fight a certain way, cubans in another, eastern europeans in their own etc. not everyone chooses to follow the tradition and some fighters box in a manner different from their countrymen. but most fighters who come up in a country with a strong boxing tradition will be a product of that specific system and their style will reflect it.

And, prior to that, Cuban amateurs fought in a much more "professional" style. Luis breathed the mountaintop air for a brief moment. He beat Griffith for the welterweight title, but lost it back to Emile three months later. (Had to look this up. Rodriguez's title reign was so short, I thought he never held a belt!) Yeah, no wonder, I felt that Luis didn't hold a title either, good fact! Solid fighter with a terrific resume, one of the forgotten gems of boxing. No doubt about it. Cuban boxing is noted around the world and Cuba would be a Powerhouse in pro boxing if only politics could be set aside. The sport of boxing is missing out on a great pool of talent from Cuba. Like I said earlier, I think Cuban law has changed and Cuban fighters are allowed to turn pro now, that's what I heard some months back. Maybe it is in the works and hasn't been fully implemented. But I agree, if the political situation was different, could you imagine the likes of Savon in the pro heavyweight ranks? It would have been interesting to say the least, or Kindelan fighting it out at bantam-feather? Things owuld have looked very different. Kindelan v Barrera at super bantam....

No doubt about it. Cuban boxing is noted around the world and Cuba would be a Powerhouse in pro boxing if only politics could be set aside. The sport of boxing is missing out on a great pool of talent from Cuba.