Why People Off Suspicion Get It Worse Than Actual Cheaters?

Floyd is a xylocaine junkie. Lets not forget that either

Is this a chided post somehow to justify Marquez taking PEDS? Lol I guess even the Marquez fanboys admit Marquez is on the stuff, but its okay because everyone else does it. Smh, wait I just robbed a bank but its k cus other banks get robbed to lel.

Ohh shyt, he got his account back, wasted no time.

It is an interesting question but it goes something like this, suspicion is a mystery and people generally want to find out the truth and when there is no truth out there that satisfies them their mind runs wild and when the mind runs wild the mouth (or fingers in this case) tend to follow. Guys that are actually found to have cheated are a done issues so what is there to really discuss other than giving the guy a hard time but how hard is someone going to go when there is no other side to really argue with. Plus most people are willing to give someone a second chance, most of the guys in boxing have only been popped once as opposed to being repeat offenders.

Tony got suspended and Tito didn't. Which means he wasn't doing anything as bad as Margarito. Accept it bro. And cuz of that his career gets questioned, that's what happens. He did something illegal. That's what I mentioned, both did something illegal, one gets questioned. Everyone is biaa and had their favorites when it comes to this stuff. Just look at Pac fans. In 2009, random testing was a coward act to duck a fight. Now its cool. Same can be said with catch weights and Floyd fans. Thats some of the most hypocritical ridiculous biased sh*t I have seen, and all in one post to top it off. Very impressive the force is strong with this one . It's not hypocritical numbnuts, a general example. You failed to mentioned being tied to a well-known, no scratch that, prosecuted, PED cheat. I know you're a realist, JMM hasn't been caught and I believe he should be given the benefit of the doubt, but the proof is in the pudding. Pac also with Freddie Roach and Justine Fortune. If I remember correctly Roach knew Toney was using steroids. But that doesn't make Pac guilty of using them though.

Margarito actually did cheat ...

Trinidad shouldnt be up there Also how is Marg in the "suspicious" section and not in the "actual" cheating one? Arent you tired of ranting about the same thing, every day, for years? if MArgarito said it was a booger than it was a booger.

Marquez, I will admit that acne looks suspect as hell but it does not make it a fact that he takes anything illegal. You failed to mentioned being tied to a well-known, no scratch that, prosecuted, PED cheat. I know you're a realist, JMM hasn't been caught and I believe he should be given the benefit of the doubt, but the proof is in the pudding.

It's a serious question to you hardcore boxing(more like boxer) fans. Roy Jones takes andro and is praised as a god. Hell looking at another thread, people have him as the best in the last couple decades and some as one of the greatest of all time. Yet they fail to realize(or don't want to believe it) that he cheated before. Shane Mosley, although he never tested positive, he comes out on record admitting that he cheated in a fight vs Oscar De La Hoya. Yet people still think he should be in the HOF and no suspicion on his fights. James Toney, just like Jones & Mosley, this guy gets praised like nothing happened even after getting busted for cheating TWICE! Erik Morales, dude was a warrior and one hell of an exciting fighter but he got caught taking something that he shouldn't, him being a warrior before excuses him for cheating. Tito Trinidad, gets caught red handed by Nazim Richardson, yet his nationalistic fans claim it as mind games and it is wrong to suspect him in previous fights. There is more but I'll stop with those 4 examples. Now on to the suspicious boxers. Pacquiao, though suspicious because the needle excuse and other things, he NEVER tested positive for anything illegal. But a group of fans(mostly made up of Mayweather/Broner/The Flashy Flash Peeps) seems to always suspect something beyond that when he does something great. Marquez, I will admit that acne looks suspect as hell but it does not make it a fact that he takes anything illegal. Cheater but still heavily criticized for suspicions.... Margarito, like Trinidad he got caught red handed by Nazim Richardson however there is no proof that he did it in other fights. Do fans have the right to be suspicious? Absolutely! But it seems more people(specially two fan bases) are upset he beat up Cotto than trying to cheat vs Mosley(another cheater) So what's your opinion on why suspicious people get it worse by fans than the ones that actually cheated? What about Mayweather 3 failed test and now hidden test

Pretty sure JMM did, too. Btw I have two questions I have yet to receive a satisfying answer to. I'm going to ask them now, maybe 1000th time is a charm: 1) How is JMM more suspicious than Manny? (And please be more creative than "he hired Memo, 'nuff said".) 2) If Floyd only asked for OST in 2009 to have an excuse to duck Manny, then why didn't Manny call his bluff and agree to OST? (Please don't mention "disrespect", "needle phobia", "blood draining" or any other stupid excuse Team Pac came up with.) http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn5xHSgCIAALyKG.jpg:large

People need to be real and stop being fanboys. Who cares if marquez is taking ped as long as he beats pacquiao. Who cares that he brings in memo. Who cares if he's showing signs of abuse. That's the type of mentality you guys are showing. Who cares that Manny turned down OST and demanded all kinds of cut off dates? Who cares that he and his team made one stupid excuse after another (and his fanboys ate the BS right up)? Who cares that even Roach admitted he didn't know what Ariza was giving Manny? Who cares that Manny's skull size doubled since his Featherweight days? Who cares that he jumped up two weight classes and became MORE of a puncher than he had been at the lower weights? Who cares about all this? Manny is beyond any suspicion, because he never tested positive. JMM didn't, either, but again, who cares? He is working with Memo Heredia. He is juicing, period.

Possibly because the guys you're talking about aren't currently relevant, whereas Marquez, Pacquiao, and Mayweather are three of the most relevant figures in the sport today.

It's a serious question to you hardcore boxing(more like boxer) fans. Roy Jones takes andro and is praised as a god. Hell looking at another thread, people have him as the best in the last couple decades and some as one of the greatest of all time. Yet they fail to realize(or don't want to believe it) that he cheated before. Shane Mosley, although he never tested positive, he comes out on record admitting that he cheated in a fight vs Oscar De La Hoya. Yet people still think he should be in the HOF and no suspicion on his fights. James Toney, just like Jones & Mosley, this guy gets praised like nothing happened even after getting busted for cheating TWICE! Erik Morales, dude was a warrior and one hell of an exciting fighter but he got caught taking something that he shouldn't, him being a warrior before excuses him for cheating. Tito Trinidad, gets caught red handed by Nazim Richardson, yet his nationalistic fans claim it as mind games and it is wrong to suspect him in previous fights. There is more but I'll stop with those 4 examples. Now on to the suspicious boxers. Pacquiao, though suspicious because the needle excuse and other things, he NEVER tested positive for anything illegal. But a group of fans(mostly made up of Mayweather/Broner/The Flashy Flash Peeps) seems to always suspect something beyond that when he does something great. Marquez, I will admit that acne looks suspect as hell but it does not make it a fact that he takes anything illegal. Cheater but still heavily criticized for suspicions.... Margarito, like Trinidad he got caught red handed by Nazim Richardson however there is no proof that he did it in other fights. Do fans have the right to be suspicious? Absolutely! But it seems more people(specially two fan bases) are upset he beat up Cotto than trying to cheat vs Mosley(another cheater) So what's your opinion on why suspicious people get it worse by fans than the ones that actually cheated? Thats some of the most hypocritical ridiculous biased sh*t I have seen, and all in one post to top it off. Very impressive the force is strong with this one .

People need to be real and stop being fanboys. Who cares if marquez is taking ped as long as he beats pacquiao. Who cares that he brings in memo. Who cares if he's showing signs of abuse. That's the type of mentality you guys are showing.

Oh no, the inevitable has happened in this turning into a Pac/May thread. :lame:

You fail to comprehend that Pacquiao wasn't demanding drug testing for the 4th fight, only Marquez expressed willingness to do it, Pacquiao for whatever reason (Common sense would tell you though) was unwilling. Really nothing to ***** about. Pacquiaos choices has nothing to do with the fact marquez is cheating. Anyway memo got away with Olympic style testing for years. So do you think marquez is clea. You don't need to see an actual fire when you can see smoke and hear alarm bells going of.

The crititicism is fair considering his biggest victory is likely down to cheating. All the signs are there. He is the most obvious abuser in the game. You fail to comprehend that Pacquiao wasn't demanding drug testing for the 4th fight, only Marquez expressed willingness to do it, Pacquiao for whatever reason (Common sense would tell you though) was unwilling. Really nothing to ***** about.

Well said, I don't think Marquez is clean if I'm being genuinely honest but at the very least, Marquez was willing to do the testing, he didn't look for a 30 day cutoff, he didn't pick the dates in which he wanted to be tested, he didn't also ask to change the procedure of 3-6 blood test into solely 3, we all know who did that. The fact that what I said, all facts, didn't leave his fans discontent only shows the hypocrisy. The anger is more within the fact that Marquez finished Pacquiao, that's where this bitterness comes from. The crititicism is fair considering his biggest victory is likely down to cheating. All the signs are there. He is the most obvious abuser in the game.

Everyone is biaa and had their favorites when it comes to this stuff. Just look at Pac fans. In 2009, random testing was a coward act to duck a fight. Now its cool.

Tony got suspended and Tito didn't. Which means he wasn't doing anything as bad as Margarito. Accept it bro. And cuz of that his career gets questioned, that's what happens.