Would you consider Wladimir Klitschko one of the most boring overrated HW's ever?

Let's be honest, he has the speed and power to be an entertaining fighter but doesn't have much guts, We all know he has a suspect chin and so does he. So he fights extremely defensive and it's terrible to watch. His fight with Povetkin was a disgrace to the sport. He never beat 'the man'. Traditionally, the torch is passed from one great to another. Wlad never fought Lewis and thus never beat 'the man.' Pitifully weak opposition. That's not his fault, but I don't think there has been a weaker heavyweight era in history. Three stoppage/knockout losses to journeyman heavyweights during his prime or close enough to it. His brother has helped out in cleaning out the division. No boxer who turned more people away from the sport than they brought in , will ever be a top 10 ATG. He'll be lucky to see the hall of fame.

Comments (20)

beez721

2nd fight byrd was not world caliber byrd was a tailor made fighter for wlad. nie excuse. byrd was prime in the first fight and wlad dominated and dropped him twice. wlad also looked good against chageav,,chambers and thompson who is very awckward and tough to look good against

12y ago

Long_jabber

he didnt look good against chris byrd twice?? 2nd fight byrd was not world caliber byrd was a tailor made fighter for wlad.

12y ago

way2strong

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639877 Watch my thread get deleted

12y ago

beez721

wlad was pushing him down and pulling down on his neck though i like wlad i love his preformance against weak opposition but fact is he is overrated and has never had a good or great preformance against good opposition he didnt look good against chris byrd twice??

12y ago

Long_jabber

Haye was actually warned by the ref for diving (pretending Wlad was pushing him down). wlad was pushing him down and pulling down on his neck though i like wlad i love his preformance against weak opposition but fact is he is overrated and has never had a good or great preformance against good opposition

12y ago

Long_jabber

his hands were down but he was constantly on the move in retreat. wlad could never get set to throw power punches on retreat? come on man he was moving side to side. retreating is what wlad would do once haaye would throw a punch

12y ago

beez721

how was he to blame? he wasnt clinching or running away. he was standing right in front of wlad with his hands down his hands were down but he was constantly on the move in retreat. wlad could never get set to throw power punches

12y ago

Long_jabber

we must have been watching two different fights then. I'll give wlad some blame for that fight as he could have forced it more but haye was even more to blame how was he to blame? he wasnt clinching or running away. he was standing right in front of wlad with his hands down

12y ago

beez721

ali =/= wladamir why bring ali up as if that excuses him from that? haye was standing in front of him with his hands down and when ever haye would try to attack wlad would run backwards and if haye got close enough wlad would pull on the back of his neck or push down on it. it takes 2 to fight. haye did everything possible to make action but when it was time to exchange and make history wlad would do everything he can in his power to avoid it we must have been watching two different fights then. I'll give wlad some blame for that fight as he could have forced it more but haye was even more to blame

12y ago

Long_jabber

lmao! youve got to be kidding me? it was haye that got all the ridicule for ruining that fight. did ali never pull on the back of his opponents neck and such on the inside? its the tricks of the trade dude. dont get me wrong wlad definitely could have also pushed it more in the haye fight but he was the agressor of the two ali =/= wladamir why bring ali up as if that excuses him from that? haye was standing in front of him with his hands down and when ever haye would try to attack wlad would run backwards and if haye got close enough wlad would pull on the back of his neck or push down on it. it takes 2 to fight. haye did everything possible to make action but when it was time to exchange and make history wlad would do everything he can in his power to avoid it

12y ago

beez721

yeah and when akwindade did that he got dq'd. strange sport. dude,,you cant be serious? akinwande was doing absolutely no punching and only grabbing for dear life. at least wlad was throwing from the outside and didnt hold to nearly the same degree as akinwande. the only fight where wlad was much too excessive with it was against povetkin and when you have over 60 fights your bound to have a bad ugly one every now and then as most fighters have

12y ago

daggum

12y ago

beez721

wheneve haye would land or get close to land wlad would pull on the back of his neck or push down on the back of his neck wlad didnt dominate by any stretch of the imagination. haye did everything possible to make it a fight. lmao! youve got to be kidding me? it was haye that got all the ridicule for ruining that fight. did ali never pull on the back of his opponents neck and such on the inside? its the tricks of the trade dude. dont get me wrong wlad definitely could have also pushed it more in the haye fight but he was the agressor of the two

12y ago

Long_jabber

ha,,wlad was hardly cheating against haye. he was doing exactly what lennox was doing against tyson on the inside. leaning on the smaller guy and sapping his strength. that what manny teaches his taller fighters. get some boxing iq buddy. all the great fighters of the present and past have tweaked the rules to an extent wheneve haye would land or get close to land wlad would pull on the back of his neck or push down on the back of his neck wlad didnt dominate by any stretch of the imagination. haye did everything possible to make it a fight.

12y ago

Sin_City

He is boring as fack! I don't think he's overrated, however. he would have competed well against any era of heavyweights.

12y ago

beez721

taller fighters are supposed to cheat against smaller fighters? and are smaller fighters supposed to smash taller fighters in the nuts? hey he was only doing what he was supposed to against the taller fighter ha,,wlad was hardly cheating against haye. he was doing exactly what lennox was doing against tyson on the inside. leaning on the smaller guy and sapping his strength. that what manny teaches his taller fighters. get some boxing iq buddy. all the great fighters of the present and past have tweaked the rules to an extent

12y ago

daggum

he was doing what the taller,, stronger fighter is supposed to do on the inside with haye. it was haye running around the ring like a pansy you moron taller fighters are supposed to cheat against smaller fighters? and are smaller fighters supposed to smash taller fighters in the nuts? hey he was only doing what he was supposed to against the taller fighter

12y ago

beez721

wlad cheated and clinched anytime haye got close. constantly pulling the back of his neck and throwing him to the ground. history wont remember wlad with a high opinion and when he retires it will be just like vitali a hall of famer but never remember as a great he was doing what the taller,, stronger fighter is supposed to do on the inside with haye. it was haye running around the ring like a pansy you moron

12y ago

boliodogs

While it's true Wlad lost to three heavyweights that were not that good the part about him being in his prime is a lie and you know it. Prime means your best and he was not at his best for those losses. He became a much better fighter and avenged two of those losses and went on to the incredible title reign that is still going on now. You are really desperate to make WLAD LOOK BAD BUT IT'S NOT WORKING. The fact that he could go on to greatness after three devastating losses shows great strength of character.

12y ago

daggum

That beat the man and pass the torch stuff his a big load of BS. Where did you get that nonsense? Vitali was stopped by Lewis on cut in a fight he was winning on the cards. He begged Lewis to rematch him but Lewis retired. You can't beat the man if the man is retired. Lots of great fighters became recognized as great by their body of work and not by beating "the man". Mayweather would be a good example. What "the man" did he beat? floyd beat "the wo man" is that the same thing?

12y ago