Arum: Oscar realises his CEO was looting his company, we're going to do great things

We don't see Todd Debuf try to steal Top Rank, like Shafer is trying to steal GBP. If Shafer is allowing Haymon to do business with GBP and Shafer is not securing fighters for the companey he works for than he isn't doing his job. Shafer has done a fair job its what he was brought in for, he's gotten his raise now he think he made GBP, haha. Haymon is bad for boxing no way he can have the fighters best intereset with all the fighters he has been signing or keeping them busy. Shafer should just leave GBP and start his own company. Delahoya built GBP to what it is today.

Arum is such an asshole... He just made it completely awkward now with Oscar by publicizing that. Oh please, like it wasn't awkward already? Everyone knew the situation, let's not try and act like we/they didn't. I also find it funny how out of all of this, Arum is the one being insulted, not the people trying to practically leech Oscars company away from him... cmon.

Arum, is going to play ODLH like a fiddle and trick him into destroying GBP.

That's an interesting take on it. If elite level fights are boring than it comes with the territory. I would personally rather watch two elite level guys fight even if it is a so-so fight in the entertainment category than two brawlers who might just make it into the top 10 of a division. Entertainment is great, but I value significance as well. Entertaining fights are not hard to find on TV as TV Azteca and Unimas offer a lot of fights that feed the blood thirsty fans. Fights of significance are rare in boxing. You're comparing Rios and Alvarado to some of the fights on TV Azteca and Unimas?

That's an interesting take on it. If elite level fights are boring than it comes with the territory. I would personally rather watch two elite level guys fight even if it is a so-so fight in the entertainment category than two brawlers who might just make it into the top 10 of a division. Entertainment is great, but I value significance as well. Entertaining fights are not hard to find on TV as TV Azteca and Unimas offer a lot of fights that feed the blood thirsty fans. Fights of significance are rare in boxing. Maybe that's because "brawlers" are sometimes more willing to take on tough opponents. Alvarado's fought Rios, Provodnikov, Marquez...he's making fights. Beat Herrera as well, who gave Danny Garcia, an "elite" guy, plenty of trouble.

That's an interesting take on it. If elite level fights are boring than it comes with the territory. I would personally rather watch two elite level guys fight even if it is a so-so fight in the entertainment category than two brawlers who might just make it into the top 10 of a division. Entertainment is great, but I value significance as well. Entertaining fights are not hard to find on TV as TV Azteca and Unimas offer a lot of fights that feed the blood thirsty fans. Fights of significance are rare in boxing. A balance of both is ideal. I think we get that with Alvarado and Rios because they have been champions and are involved in title fights. You don't, because you don't rate them.

I wouldn't mind if I never saw Rios or Alvarado again. They are not elite fighters. With the exception of Pacquiao most of the so called "elite" fighters are boring fighters usually involved in boring fights. I'll take watching Alvarado's last five fights over any of them. I think you underrate them anyway, they'd be more than competitive with the GBP side of the stable. Maidana wasn't considered elite either and he almost beat FMJ (some feel he did).

Bob Arum is about as indirect as Donald Sterling. Go to guy if you need an unveiled swipe. "what has Schaefer done? he's got AIDS"

Bob Arum is about as indirect as Donald Sterling. Go to guy if you need an unveiled swipe.

OK that part earned you Green K. I had diet coke pouring out my nostrils on that one. it made me LOL. First post from this guy I had to give green to lol

That's what I meant. Haymon is going to need GBP or Top Rank eventually. His fighters are going to demand big fights against Canelo and Pacquiao. If he can't deliver they will sign with someone else. Everybody can't get the Mayweather fight. Wouldn't that depend upon how long he has signed them for and under what terms? Oscar seems to be playing extra nice about Haymon in the media (maybe because he still needs him?) but beneath it he has to be furious with him and Schaefer.

I'm talking more about the fights than the numbers. Boxing fans want to see Rios, Pacquiao, Alvarado, Bradley, Abregu squaring off against Matthysse, Thurman, Maidana, Garcia, Khan, Porter etc but the latter are all Haymon fighters so it still ain't happening. We're not really any better off (yet, at least). That's what I meant. Haymon is going to need GBP or Top Rank eventually. His fighters are going to demand big fights against Canelo and Pacquiao. If he can't deliver they will sign with someone else. Everybody can't get the Mayweather fight.

Does anyone find anything wrong with what Bob Arum did here? Basically Oscar spoke to him regarding a few things, and instead of keeping it personal, he goes back and shouts it to the media. Now Richard will hear this and this will create more friction between Richard and Oscar, so if anything Arum's plan should be clear, he's looking to breakdown Goldenboy internally. Good. Oscar needs to fire Chafer and Gaymon. If Bob needs to make public comments to get things heading it that direction, so be it.

The real problem now for boxing fans is that most of these fighters are signed to Al Haymon and not GBP meaning Top Rank (and possibly HBO) won't do business with him. Essentially, unless they can cut ties with Haymon, the situation remains the same. Neither Haymon nor Mayweather have promoter's licenses which is why they rely on their butt boy Schaefer to handle the promoter's duties and sign on the dotted lines. If they lose their GBP pipeline and Main Event's claims are proven true, that could be the end of the Darth Haymon Empire in Boxing. Oscar seems determined to wrest control back of his company, and being the majority stock holder and namesake he can and probably will. Should be interesting to see how things play out in the near future.

Haymon has a deep roster but they're mostly B-sides. The most important piece of the puzzle is Canelo and he's loyal to Oscar. I'd be interested to see how they function without Canelo. Look at ShowTime's TV schedule. They're ratings have been lukewarm this year. All of the big names are being thrown on Floyd and Canelo undercards. I'm talking more about the fights than the numbers. Boxing fans want to see Rios, Pacquiao, Alvarado, Bradley, Abregu squaring off against Matthysse, Thurman, Maidana, Garcia, Khan, Porter etc but the latter are all Haymon fighters so it still ain't happening. We're not really any better off (yet, at least).

The real problem now for boxing fans is that most of these fighters are signed to Al Haymon and not GBP meaning Top Rank (and possibly HBO) won't do business with him. Essentially, unless they can cut ties with Haymon, the situation remains the same. Yep, Gaymon and his tranny entourage are the future blight of boxing.

The real problem now for boxing fans is that most of these fighters are signed to Al Haymon and not GBP meaning Top Rank (and possibly HBO) won't do business with him. Essentially, unless they can cut ties with Haymon, the situation remains the same. Haymon has a deep roster but they're mostly B-sides. The most important piece of the puzzle is Canelo and he's loyal to Oscar. I'd be interested to see how they function without Canelo. Look at ShowTime's TV schedule. They're ratings have been lukewarm this year. All of the big names are being thrown on Floyd and Canelo undercards.

The real problem now for boxing fans is that most of these fighters are signed to Al Haymon and not GBP meaning Top Rank (and possibly HBO) won't do business with him. Essentially, unless they can cut ties with Haymon, the situation remains the same.

Arum is such an asshole... He just made it completely awkward now with Oscar by publicizing that. He is an asshole. Oscar only has himself to blame, as that is exactly what old Bob was hoping for. I understand that people are whooping, whilst thinking this will spell the end of the cold war, but such elation is short-sighted. Ultimately Arum's mind is on money, so Oscar reaching out to him presents him with the opportunity of destabilising his most significant rival.

It's been clear to me for years that Schaefer was the main reason for the feud. He hates Arum and cusses him out in public every chance he gets. Why would Arum want to put up with that? He is too old and too good at what he does to take Schaefer's sh*t. Well Arum did kind of start it by calling him essentially a Nazi sympathizer, he used the term "swiss banker" not as a description but as refer to him as like the Swiss bankers of WWII that did major dealings with the Nazi's because they had money no matter how soiled it was. Starting off by calling someone like that is not how you get off on the good foot.