one of the most entertaining fight's ever
Whitaker wanted no part of Chavez sr 1987-92 ..In other word's Prime vs Prime
]Since the late 1980s, Chávez stated several times that wanted a fight against Whitaker. The Whitaker team, among them Lou Duva, told to Ring Magazine that they did not want a fight against Chavez in those days. In the eyes of some experts, Whitaker waited for Chávez to age.
Whitaker was pretty green when he fought Mayweather.
I wouldn't pick anyone with that little pro experience over someone as great and seasoned as Chavez.
Pea beats Chavez though at 135-140 when he got more experience. Although the Chavez who fought Rosario would be a really tough match.
If this is true then why doesnt anyone talk about how much of a ducker Pernell was? Its funny how peope are biased for past ATG's and sweep their dirt under the rug. But we greatly exaggerrate about present ATG's. No one talks about SRL's cherrypicking. He basically invented it. He talks so much he admitted to cherrypicking every single opponent on his resume and ONLY fighting them because he saw a weakness.
where's the evidence that whitaker avoided chavez sr? im genuinely asking considering ive never heard that before.
You guys missed the point ..No way does whitaker beat chavez in 87-90 he practically avoided him while in his prime after losing to seniors sparring partner in 88 .If beating a out of prime out of shape Chavez sr is impressive to you guys then Joe Calzaghe must be one your guys favorites
Roger Floor's Whitaker but he defeats Chavez anytime ..Fan boys
If this is true then why doesnt anyone talk about how much of a ducker Pernell was? Its funny how peope are biased for past ATG's and sweep their dirt under the rug. But we greatly exaggerrate about present ATG's. No one talks about SRL's cherrypicking. He basically invented it. He talks so much he admitted to cherrypicking every single opponent on his resume and ONLY fighting them because he saw a weakness.
and i made every1 in this thread shut the fuk up and go off topic with Fact's.. bring out the alt's to help defend your pathetic selves ...fuk frauds and cowards ..I'm a fan of the sport not just 1 man unlike you f4ggots..Pacquiao is well round offence and defense ..Hater's gunna hate
No you didn't this whole thread is based on your opinion that things would be drastically different in a different situation based on the fact the fight happened at a later time due the the fact they robbed Sweet Pea against Jose Luis Ramirez to set up the unification against JCC Sr..
Which was all Don King's work.
You haven't said anything worthwhile and clearly have no clue about anything from that period. JCC Sr. would probably slap you himself for perpetrating this bull**** in his name, Pea roasted him and there is nothing in that fight that says he would ever have a chance against Pea but there is no shame in that as Pea is one of the greatest fighters ever.
Yeah everyone was saying facts and you just annoyed everyone with your ignorant mind set, congratulations.
You must be on the Molly if you really think that about PAC.
you mean they countered my fact's with there opinion's if its the other way around feel free to point it out.. and remove brad from your sig he wouldn't want a coward supporting him.... Alt accounts needed just to try and make a point LOL
Yeaup not a fag but just sitting here smoking a blunt smh at the thread starter.
As you said these Fans of brawlers most notably these Pacquiao fans are the most ignorant and close minded to the sport it's embarassing.
and i made every1 in this thread shut the fuk up and go off topic with Fact's.. bring out the alt's to help defend your pathetic selves ...fuk frauds and cowards ..I'm a fan of the sport not just 1 man unlike you f4ggots..Pacquiao is well round offence and defense ..Hater's gunna hate
duuuuuude...that NY situation is a mess...their fallback plan include the names Bill Cartwright and Luke Walton
i can't imagine Luke being able to tell Melo to play defense
I literally spit out my drink when I heard them mention Tyrone Lue, and when you hear Kerr talk it is like he is relieved he got an offer that allowed him turn down the Knicks.
They should just hire Pat Ewing and be done with it, he is not a Jackson guy but I am sure he would take Jackson's input.
i'm so iffy on Karl...not sure if one of these older coaches is the right fit...heck, i dont even know what the team will look like...a lot hinges on the draft and where we end up...there have been talks that if the pick isn't 1-3 and instead a 6-9 pick, that it would be dangled to Chicago for Thibbs? everything is in limbo right now...me personally, if he didn't have a couple more years on his contract left, i would LOVE to go after Rick Carlisle...we both know that dude is money
Carlisle is very good, sucks he Mark Jackson'd out of Detroit.
Yea I was curious because the Lakers have been so quiet, they can't really rebuild with Kobe and pulling another Gasol type trade is always tough. I do have to think the Lakers will catch a break in the lottery this year.
At least the Lakers are not the Knicks though, that is going to be a huge mess I think.
wiki? the editable wiki? good job
what biased view? you dont even deserve a comeback...in fact, you dont even deserve to watch boxing until you understand what the fvck you're watching
LoL.. Like I said no comeback.. It's hard to debate with someone who keep's it 100% unbiased when your a fake azz person yourself ..Whitaker won the fight sure but he did not want to part of him at a weight Chavez was comfortable at..But keep on with your bullsh1t defeated him at any time of his career :lame::fingersx:
LOL... well since you clearly showed your biased views and had no comeback after I posted what was on the man's Wiki here goes a picture of you ..
http://i59.tinypic.com/2eygkk1.jpg
That is a fight you really don't want to start, that is some friendly advice
i still cringe when i think about the contract Otis gave Rashard Lewis
i'm also curious to see how Kerr will do in GS...that's a ready-made team and if he can't get them to the heights that Jackson got em, people are gonna b1tch big time
People complain about the contract we gave Smith but we only owe him 3/39, wasn't Rashard like 7/120 and he got traded.
Yea I don't quite get why Kerr was their guy, he could be great but they just fired a guy they brought in who had zero experience beforehand. Kerr seems like a more laid back guy who won't have issues with the front office which I believe is what got Jackson fired but can he really get more out of that squad. Golden State just never does the right thing, so you have to question them.
Who are the Lakers going to go for Karl? That was kind of who I wanted the Pistons to get, before Stan became the option.
white? i'm fvkcing pinoy you assbackward kupal...stop posting
LOL... well since you clearly showed your biased views and had no comeback after I posted what was on the man's Wiki here goes a picture of you ..
http://i59.tinypic.com/2eygkk1.jpg
Ron is a good coach, even though he does tend to panic...i dont know about giving him a president title...that's a bit of an overpayment...i heard he's gonna hire Otis and have that old Orlando dynamic back again
also looks like Monroe is gone...i'm wondering which sucker team out there gives him a max deal
I don't know about Monroe, SVG was on an Orlando radio station talking up Monroe and Drummond, I saw a lot of speculation about Monroe being on the outs but it was kind of weird because they were like no matter what happens it looks like Monroe's days are numbered. So I don't know, he is a good player but he certainly has flaws I still don't think we can afford to let him walk.
I am worried about bringing in Otis, I can feel that he stood up for Stan but he didn't do that great building Orlando, although he did better than recent Dumars. What I worry about is Orlando rubbing off on us, thus forcing us to send Drummond to the Lakers in 6 or 7 years which would be good for you.
Pernell Whitaker would have always beaten him, he could either box him, or best him in the pocket where I'm sure Chavez didn't expect Whitaker to be that refined or physically as strong.
Than why did he avoid him and waited till he was declining ? Kind of like Spinks beating Ali
dude please stop...you're giving these floyd f@gs more ammo on how PAC fans DKSAB
What do you think about the Pistons hiring Ron Jeremy, I was kind of shocked at first but it appears he was the big ticket coach available and we did really need a whole new direction.
I do feel bad for the cool Manny fans that get lumped in with this guy (and guys like him), they don't deserve that.
:rofl: what BS. Whitaker was robbed vs Ramirez for good reason
& thats the sad thing............the guy doesn't even realize that ramirez vs Whitaker was a horrible robbery.
dude please stop...you're giving these floyd f@gs more ammo on how PAC fans DKSAB
What does Pac have to do with this? That was taking off of Whitakers own Wiki..Everyone know's how biased you white boys who pretend to be black can be