why do floyd and broner get a free ride on dirty tactix ?

Winning a tougher than expected fight is what guys get credit for. If you can't set aside your dislike for floyd to do thatt-fine with me. Tells us all we need to know. Floyd has been on both sides of the glove issue. It isn't a case of right or wrong, its a case of power and control. When floyd didn't have it, he wore the gloves he was told to. WHen he did, he determined what gloves will be worn. He won both times. Get over it. ALl that other BS you posted is childish crap used to deflect from the fact you are just mad that floyd has the power and control. He's the #1 draw and thats the way boxing works. Get over it!! Talk about deflecting! :pat: I can't even say nice try ..... :lol1: Once you put Floyd off the pedestal that you put him on then you may end up being more objective and even getting some or all of the points discussed. You brought up, Tyson, Ali, history and I tried to patiently discuss but you just care about Floyd and what Floyd says. If Floyd never brought up gloves, you would never bring up gloves. Same with CWs, PEDs testing, Revenue sharing, ..... and any other roadblock pulled by Floyd and all of a sudden, it matter for Floyd or didn't. Depending on what Floyd says. :rofl: Best example is the CW .... that one had some Floyd fans running for the hills. Meaning, you don't see much of them or ever again. Too ashamed to come back!

Veteran tactics doe :rofl:

floyd? i get broner, but floyd? he is one of the cleanest fighters in boxing. the only foul you can argue he is guilty of is using his forearm, but he only uses it to keep guys from headbutting him in case he cant count on the ref. if someone tries to headbutt you what are you supposed to do, just let him? how the hell do you put full blame on floyd for using a dirty tactic merely to avoid his opponents dirty tactics and the guy starting it all gets no blame at all? broner idk, he pulled a few moves i was surprised the refs let him get away with. then again he too is often a victim of dirty tactics. a lot of times when both fighters are dirty the ref lets them both get away with it feeling it evens itself out and he doesnt want to get criticized for taking points. thats obviously wrong, if both are dirty both should be punished and then there would be a clean fight from that point on. but to answer the quetion you seldom see broner (and you never see floyd) be the dirtiest fighter in the ring. to say they get a free ride is absurd. why did maidana get a free ride against both of them? and dont tell me he lost a point against broner because he could easily have been DQed, a point was minimum and he really should have lost a point long before that for all his other crap. he was even worse against floyd, the amout of fouling he got away with was appalling. You tried this earlier and couldnt get it to float. You just look like a bellend now.:sad:

Floyd WON a tough fight. All this fight exsposed was floyd can win tough, dirty fights when posters like you thought he couldn't. Only idiots who have no sense of boxing history criticize a fighter for winning a tough, close fight. He chose the gloves because he could as the a side. Get over it. I didn't say it had anything to do with Ali being exsposed. Like I said, Maidana losing close is as much a threat to floyd's claim as TBE as Leon Spinks win over Ali is to his claim of being The Greatest. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! You want to talk about history now? Ali fought the best of his era. Floyd has been criticized for skipping over them or not fighting them in their prime ...... So this fight gets factored in much much more than what you tried to point out about Ali. Can't believe you even went there! Get over gloves? Floyd fans saying that is like Floyd fans now saying that about CWs. It mattered to Floyd only when it affected him not the other way around. Now gloves are no longer important, CWs are no longer important, coming in over the contracted weight is no longer important. Why? Because Floyd can do no wrong as far as his fans are concerned. At least I did see a few Floyd fans agree that what Floyd did was wrong and lame as far as the gloves fiasco.

is someone really saying floyd got exposed? :rofl: floyd is beyond the point of being exposed, just like pac, jmm, hopkins and rjj. roy can get knocked out a million more times and he is still great, he has done enough already and the same applies to the others. maidana could have knocked floyd dead with a jab to the forearm in the first 5 seconds and he wouldnt have exposed him. p4p kings dont get exposed, five division world champions dont get exposed. anyone who thinks differently either doesnt know the meaning of the word or they dont know boxing. floyd is an atg no matter how the rest of his career plays out, anyone who doesnt get that is a lost cause.

I brought up Tyson losing as an example of exsposure. floyd didn't lose, that why the quote you posted is irrelevant. Floyd did same thing that has been done before. Glove comfort is just something b sides have to deal with. Floyd overcame it and won. Maidana almost did same. Maidana losing close is as much a threat to floyd's claim as TBE as Leon Spinks win over Ali is to his claim of being The Greatest. So you agree that it was being exposed (Tyson) .... you just can't deduce that it's the same for Floyd .... got it ...... you don't have to lose a fight to an opponent to be criticized in that fashion. Depends on the other factors that have been already brought up. Are you new to this sight? Stop it with this A side, B side crap. If Floyd says he is the best then why remove Maidana's only advantage going into the fight? ie. KO Artist's gloves. Ali was not in shape and took it lightly when he lost to Leon Spinks. He came in better shape for the 2nd one and won. That had NOTHING to do with being exposed.

floyd? i get broner, but floyd? he is one of the cleanest fighters in boxing. the only foul you can argue he is guilty of is using his forearm, but he only uses it to keep guys from headbutting him in case he cant count on the ref. if someone tries to headbutt you what are you supposed to do, just let him? how the hell do you put full blame on floyd for using a dirty tactic merely to avoid his opponents dirty tactics and the guy starting it all gets no blame at all? broner idk, he pulled a few moves i was surprised the refs let him get away with. then again he too is often a victim of dirty tactics. a lot of times when both fighters are dirty the ref lets them both get away with it feeling it evens itself out and he doesnt want to get criticized for taking points. thats obviously wrong, if both are dirty both should be punished and then there would be a clean fight from that point on. but to answer the quetion you seldom see broner (and you never see floyd) be the dirtiest fighter in the ring. to say they get a free ride is absurd. why did maidana get a free ride against both of them? and dont tell me he lost a point against broner because he could easily have been DQed, a point was minimum and he really should have lost a point long before that for all his other crap. he was even worse against floyd, the amout of fouling he got away with was appalling.

Your quote means nothing. Buster was supposed to lose. He won. Leon was supposed to lose to ALi, he won. Floyd was supposed to beat Maidana and did. How one promotes the fight has no bearing on what gloves will be worn. A sides often choose the gloves. WHen they do, they choose gloves the opponent doesn't like presumably to gain a mental advantage. SO floyd doesn't let Maidana wear punchers gloves. ODH makes floyd wear punchers gloves. Never been an issue before. Maidana was allowed to fight in a way that gave him the best chance to win. He lost. it wasn't because of the gloves. Its because floyd is not only a great boxer but he has grown up int the gym and knows how to deal with that style. You brought up Tyson/Douglas and now it doesn't matter anymore? Funny stuff. Even Tyson agrees with that being "The Moment" ..... SO now I know why they called the Maidana vs Floyd fight "The Moment" :lol1: The gloves issue was lame and you should just be agreeing on that. Gloves can be both a mental and physical advantage for BOTH fighters. If that were not the case, Floyd would not be dishing out money to stop Maidana, the KO artist, from using it. Again, gloves can make a difference. On top of what has been said already, Maidana even complained on how those gloves that he used were not fitting comfortably. After seeing that fight last week, Floyd got exposed and anyone even thinking that he is TBE is a joke! It was "The Moment" that even Floyd fans realized that Floyd is not

You start I finish it...it was my personal explanation of why there is a influx of racially charged arguments in every thread that these so called Floyd haters create themselves. Yep exactly. Funny, look on every thread or even Youtube and its hilarious how many Latinos, Pinoy spew sh*t like "Fvck you monkeys, *******s, coons etc" just because someone of any color disagrees with them on a fight or its result or even prediction of a future fight. Like I said I could careless, say what you want but it doesnt change the outcome. Some of you uneducated people need to do some research and find that these monkeys , coons etc blood runs threw most these latinos smh. Sad that we cant talk boxing here without some body throwing subliminal hate in the mix That doesnt happen here, so take your silly whining and go do it where it actually happens. Its transparent that you were trying to race bait as you well know yourself that people dont use those terms here. And moaning about what latinos and pinoys post on other sites? Pathetic. Its universally accepted that the worst, most consistent and regular racism on this forum comes exclusively from Floyd's fan base. Not many Latino's or Pinoys there, you twat. :nonono:

i missed that post, ban his ass too..and kill all the " you black people crap" i am not racist and can not stand people who always mention race. We are all human beings trying to make it in this world You have a short memory.:nonono:

you didn't answer the question. How does winning a tough fight exspose a fighter? Maidana satrted at 12-1 underdog and tha was down to 8-1 the night of the fight, after the glove controversy was settled. So your point makes no sense. Well alot of people were wrong. Tyson was supposed to Tyson Buster. No. Many times the a side has chosen the opponents gloves. WHen the a side is in against power fighters they often do not allow them to wear "punchers" gloves. "Throughout those years, much of the focus on the fight has been on Douglas' role as the catalyst to Tyson's downfall. Many have theorized that the loss to Douglas took away Tyson's mystique; and it's certainly true that once he lost that fight, Tyson never regained his ferocious reputation" As for the gloves, it wasn't in the contract for one. Secondly, why promote a fight and bring up Maidana's KO ratio and that he is a KO artist and then snatch the artist's tools away from him? It was lame! Finally, all they were giving Maidana was a punchers chance. Polls here had given Maidana 3% chance at UD and gave Floyd as a good a chance of KOing Maidana than Maidana KOing Floyd.

it's funny how you say it. if it is fair to the A side to choose his opponent's gloves just because he is the A side then is it fair to assume that the A side is scared of the power of the B side To be fair it is only recently that they started to allow guys wear different types of gloves, so glove choice was an issue for a long time it is one of the undercover advantages an a-side always got. Like for example Oscar in the Floyd fight made them wear Reyes which are puncher gloves, why because that would give the bigger more powerful puncher an advantage and give Floyd brittle hands less protection. It makes me laugh that people are that up in arms about something generally that was considered very minor.

you didn't answer the question. How does winning a tough fight exspose a fighter? Maidana satrted at 12-1 underdog and tha was down to 8-1 the night of the fight, after the glove controversy was settled. So your point makes no sense. Well alot of people were wrong. Tyson was supposed to Tyson Buster. No. Many times the a side has chosen the opponents gloves. WHen the a side is in against power fighters they often do not allow them to wear "punchers" gloves. it's funny how you say it. if it is fair to the A side to choose his opponent's gloves just because he is the A side then is it fair to assume that the A side is scared of the power of the B side

Maidana just kinda fights dirty. i didnt think what he did was too bad,, it was his only chance to win. but lets not act like floyd wasnt completely clean, he did use his elbow a bit, just not as blatant or bad as maidana rough tacticsI know. He fought dirty enough to warrant a point deduction or two, but I know why he did what he did. He had to. Just don't tell me that, that won him the fight. Not you personally, other posters.

can someone explain to me why Floyd and broner seem to get away with there dirty tactics ? it seems they rarely get warned much less points taken away , how the hell did broner not get DQED for his body slam is beyond me ?:notworthy What about Maidana's dirty tactics in the Floyd fight?

Don't waste your time. He said Floyd HOLDS too much. :bottle: That ended my argument with him and objectivity. Maidana just kinda fights dirty. i didnt think what he did was too bad,, it was his only chance to win. but lets not act like floyd wasnt completely clean, he did use his elbow a bit, just not as blatant or bad as maidana rough tactics

Its allowed because the opponent isn't trying to box to a win. thats the piece, respectfully, you keep leaving out. it's floyd's opponents that usually get away with stuff because that the only way the fight is close. The better analogy than palming would be Kobe, MJ, or Lebron being allowed to ward off when going to the hole. Is it right, no. But the refs believe the defender is going to do anything in his power to stop the layup/dunk so they let them "protect" themselves where they don't with other guys. Also, they know fans pay to see those guys so I will concede some of it may be the ref sensing people are paying to see floyd show his skills.. Maidana was the first time Broner had to really deal with a bigger guy throwing everything at him to win.Broner was in the same position as floyd, he doesn't have the experience or the collective knowledge in his corner to know how to deal with it. My point is simple- if the opponent's plan to win is excessive brawling and fouling, floyd responding in kind is not excessive. its preventitive.Don't waste your time. He said Floyd HOLDS too much. :bottle: That ended my argument with him and objectivity.

You said this 4 times in a row, and yet you had to edit that, lmao!:bottle: Your hero Floyd was exposed yet you bring up editing a post. Time to take a break Frank! :lol1:

You just hoping you wake up and realized that the fight has not happened yet and Floyd/Ellerbe don't go complaining about no punchers gloves. Exposed and complaining BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the fight ..... that was Floyd ..... Twice? Don't worry, I and others will remind you, in the real world, what happened plenty of times ..... just in case you forget! :lol1: .You said this 4 times in a row, and yet you had to edit that, lmao!:bottle:

chino was supposed to be gatti'd by floyd according to most people in here, yet floyd made him wear those pillows, is really strange, isn't it? Yup Floyd fans still don't know "what time it is" .... they must cringe when they type what they type about this fight because that fight didn't turn out so well for supposedly in their hero's on words, TBE .....