Is this guy a reliable source?
Pac PPV buys are between 750,000-800,000 buys. That is a very good number considering Pac was koed 2 fights ago and Tim has only about 6 fans not to mention the *****ty undercards. Basically all the parties involved made a profit on this fight.
Now recent Floyd fight the PPV buys are slightly higher than Pac but after considering how high Floyd's guaranteed payment ($32m) and the high cost payment of big names undercards. GBP and Showtime lost a lot of money AGAIN!
I'm not ignoring anythign-I am using your logic as you posted it.
Mike beat rios-TR passed him over for a rios fight because it was the more exciting fight on paper.
Tim beat JMM after he KO'd manny-sales for that fight wasn't great despite the backstory.
ARum is saying he wants pac v jmm 5.
Taking all the above into consideration leads me to conclude-
Should MIke beat JMM I'm sure he will get passed over for a JMM 5 fight because it is mmore profitable.
If Mike beats JMM, he likely gets passed over for a ruslan fight because it on paper is closer to rios/manny-which mike got passed over for.
really gonna play slow huh? mike beats rios, there was still nothing to go off of in terms of promoting. mike beats marquez, marquez ko manny. now there is something to work off of. i said the only reason why they picked rios over mike the first time was because mike didnt have anything going for him and even tho he beat rios, rios was still the easier guy to promote out of this situation.
and u're saying the manny vs tim 2 fight flopped even though there is a back story to it, well if manny fight ruslan whats the back story to it? there isnt any! therefore it will even be harder to sell the fight. thats why i said if mike beats marquez then mike will be easier to sell against manny. but go ahead and keep acting like u dont get it.
The messed up thing is that if Mayweather actually fought Pacquiao next I could see a ton of posters saying that he is only doing it to duck the Maidana rematch. :lol1:
naw even the fake maidana fans wont even dare to go that low LOL!!
The messed up thing is that if Mayweather actually fought Pacquiao next I could see a ton of posters saying that he is only doing it to duck the Maidana rematch. :lol1:
now if marquez beats mike then yes i would agree that ruslan will be the easier one to promote for a fight against manny but u're choosing to ignored the part where i said IF mike beats marquez.
mike was injured, but lets say he wasnt, why would they pick him over rios? rios will still be the easier one to promote since he's a pressure fighter that doesnt stop throwing.
if thats the case, then ruslan is easier to promote than mike for the same reason. Yes, mike would have a win over JMM but mike had a win over rios-and according to you they went with the easier fight to promote, acc.
to say that would benefit the promotion of mike, assming he wins, is a stretch. Tim just had a win over JMM, who KO'd manny, and it didn't help sales, even though it was a rematch of a controversial fight.
But they did give tim the fight so maybe mike will get it.
u're not reading it correctly. when pac fought rios, sure mike just did beat rios but it was harder to promote as compare to rios. rios was suppose to be this come foward nonstop action fighter therefore it will make a good fight since pac does well with fighters like this. now fast foward, if mike was to beat jmm, now TR can promote manny vs mike better as compare to if they would have picked mike the first time.
because now they can promote it by saying mike beat the man that KO manny. and for ruslan, how will they promote this fight again? so u're telling me if mike beats jmm, ruslan will be easier to promote against manny just because he's a pressure fighter? the reason why they picked rios at first was because mike had nothing there for him in order for TR to promote for the fight.
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mike was injured, but lets say he wasnt, why would they pick him over rios? rios will still be the easier one to promote since he's a pressure fighter that doesnt stop throwing.
if thats the case, then ruslan is easier to promote than mike for the same reason. Yes, mike would have a win over JMM but mike had a win over rios-and according to you they went with the easier fight to promote, acc.
to say that would benefit the promotion of mike, assming he wins, is a stretch. Tim just had a win over JMM, who KO'd manny, and it didn't help sales, even though it was a rematch of a controversial fight.
But they did give tim the fight so maybe mike will get it.
the problem with the ruslan fight is he doesn't bring in that many new fans ... that is ... sure he has fans but most of them are also Pac fans if that makes sense.
If Mayweather-Canelo got 2.2, Mayweather-Pacquiao does more even now.
thats what im saying. the fight might even do better now with all the shiiet that has happen between these 2.
Now 1.5-2.0
In 2010= 2.5-3.0
i think it will still be as big as before. yeah the fight kinda died down but if it was announce tomorrow the hype will be back to where it was at, even with pac getting ko'd, i think if they announce the fight, it will still be just as big as if it was a few years ago, it might even be bigger considering all the drama that has happen leading up to it. its like people is in suspense waiting for it so when it finally happens people will still go nuts over it.
agreed!! now only if both fans can see and understand this instead of playing fan boys my fighters did better numbers than yours.
I don't understand, people to be boxing fans but pray on a particular fighters downfall consistently. It's good banter at times but more often than not it's pointless rhetoric fueled by inner animosity.:boxing:
Both PAC and Floyd need to man up and fight. That are both to blame for the fight not happening.
People want to see PAC-Mayweather, until that happens expect these types of numbers from both Floyd and PAC. These are still very good PPV numbers but if assume not very good with 20 million plus guarantees.
agreed!! now only if both fans can see and understand this instead of playing fan boys my fighters did better numbers than yours.
People want to see PAC-Mayweather, until that happens expect these types of numbers from both Floyd and PAC. These are still very good PPV numbers but id assume not very good with 20 million plus guarantees.
Mike's hand was hurt but that didn't stop him from headlining a card in his hometown around the same time. No one is talking about ducking crap.
I don't think that is a reason why they would pick mike over JMM. Mike n=beat rios clealrly and rios got the manny fight. Arum is on record saying he wants a JMM 5 fight. I can respect your optimism but the information out there suggests differently.
mike was injured, but lets say he wasnt, why would they pick him over rios? rios will still be the easier one to promote since he's a pressure fighter that doesnt stop throwing
that would be the reason they pick ruslan over mike IMO.
wtf?? IF mike beat jmm and since jmm KO manny, why would they pick ruslan over mike again? how are they gonna promote that fight? ex-sparring mates fighting eachother? LOL!!! the reason why i said they picked rios over mike was because it will be easier to promote, BUT if mike was to beat jmm, then mike will be way easier to promote against manny than ruslan will.
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