Vitali Klitschko v Bermane Stiverne - who would have won?

vitali wasn't even man enough to fight rahman so what are you talking about? that would have been the best win of his career but he didn't want to fight him. he would rather fight stationary blobs like danny williams, kirk johnson, retire then come back for some more blob hunting! sam peter, juan carlos gomez, chris arreola, etc... Vitali never got knocked out by anyone much less a sparring partner to the stars you twit lol

looks like he just ate a barrel of donuts. 254 pounds and he's 6 foot tall. do i have to explain why this is a terrible combination for boxing? do i have to explain basic laws of physics to you? You cant possibly be this dumb so I wont reply seriously anymore

Interesting that a lot more people voted for a Vitali stoppage, everyone realises i'm talking about 42 year old Vitali, right? I just have a feeling Stiverne would have lasted 12, he's got a good chin... but that's just the most realistic thing IMO, maybe VK would suddenly look greater again and punish Stiverne. Funnily enough, I could imagine this fight going like the Briggs one, albeit with Stiverne being slightly more competitive and offering more offense.

I agree in part - both men were shattered at the end of the sixth. I just feel, even now, having re-watched the fight dozens of times, that the fight swung in Lewis's favour from Round 5. Vitali's expression said it all. Anyway, this is well-trodden ground and off topic. It was one of the GREAT heavyweight fights and that's a great credit to both men. This was the last fight we had between two alltime great heavyweights. At the time of the bout we didn't know if Klitschko was for real or not. Because this era & the past 10 yrs have been an all out Klitschko assault on the heavyweight senses... we might not have a bout between two alltime great heavyweights for a very long time unless somehow Wilder proves to be a nonfraud & destroys Klitschko like he's done everyone else.

Oh absolutely. I understand as a fan of a fighter you will obviously swing for them in terms of assessing a situation - as a Vitali fan I of course acknowledge he was damaged and tired, but I feel he was still ready to fight and wasn't completely out of it...more so probably discouraged because of the knowledge that the fight was almost certain to get stopped at any moment. As a fan of Lennox I understand your view with how the fight was going and the prediction on how it would have gone. Respectful discussion and the OVERALL MESSAGE of this was a great fight, the last real great fight between two of the best big men of recent times, or ever. Just a shame it wasn't when both were prime, fit, and free of any freak accidents or injuries. Great post. :fing02:

I agree in part - both men were shattered at the end of the sixth. I just feel, even now, having re-watched the fight dozens of times, that the fight swung in Lewis's favour from Round 5. Vitali's expression said it all. Anyway, this is well-trodden ground and off topic. It was one of the GREAT heavyweight fights and that's a great credit to both men. Oh absolutely. I understand as a fan of a fighter you will obviously swing for them in terms of assessing a situation - as a Vitali fan I of course acknowledge he was damaged and tired, but I feel he was still ready to fight and wasn't completely out of it...more so probably discouraged because of the knowledge that the fight was almost certain to get stopped at any moment. As a fan of Lennox I understand your view with how the fight was going and the prediction on how it would have gone. Respectful discussion and the OVERALL MESSAGE of this was a great fight, the last real great fight between two of the best big men of recent times, or ever. Just a shame it wasn't when both were prime, fit, and free of any freak accidents or injuries.

Don't think there's much basis for that, TBH. Both men looked tired and worse for wear...and Lewis wasn't exactly looking fresh and confident for the potential second half of the fight, slumping in his stool, either... I agree in part - both men were shattered at the end of the sixth. I just feel, even now, having re-watched the fight dozens of times, that the fight swung in Lewis's favour from Round 5. Vitali's expression said it all. Anyway, this is well-trodden ground and off topic. It was one of the GREAT heavyweight fights and that's a great credit to both men.

Ah, that explains Vitali's look of resignation at the end of Round 5. Vitali won the first few rounds, but Lewis was on top at the time of the stoppage. He would have floored Vitali if the fight had continued; that or Vitali would have quit on his stool. Don't think there's much basis for that, TBH. Both men looked tired and worse for wear...and Lewis wasn't exactly looking fresh and confident for the potential second half of the fight, slumping in his stool, either...

Ah, that explains Vitali's look of resignation at the end of Round 5. Vitali won the first few rounds, but Lewis was on top at the time of the stoppage. He would have floored Vitali if the fight had continued; that or Vitali would have quit on his stool. Being on top means leading on the scorecards but since that wasn't allowed to come into play to decipher the official result.. the fight was won strictly on who physically appeared better to the naked eye & that was obviously Lewis... what wasn't obvious was who WAS more ready & able to continue to the 7th rd & to me that is what is the ULTIMATE decider of a fight... even the biggest of Lewis fans can't factually say he was more ready for another 3 minutes of action than Klitschko was.. he plopped on his stool completely spent & Vitali had similar actions... so these was a very incomplete & unusual ending... The BOUT was STOPPED with both fighters equally gone.. forget about what happened in the final 6 or 8 seconds... as that little spurt at the end could've served to punch Lewis out so in no way was that an indicator of an advantage going into the 7th rd.. he was emptying the kitchen sink... so in my mind this was a technical draw if EVERYONE involved kept it completely REAL.

vitali instead of fighting rahman See... that would be funny if we weren't discussing Lewis. Not Vitali's fault Rahman couldn't hold on to the belt Vitali loaned him.... Rahman would've gotten obliterated.. esp. to a peeved Klitschko. Trust me if one manages to escape a Klitschko beatdown due to unforeseen circumstances the other Klitschko ALWAYS gets him... look no further than Byrd.. PURITY... sANDERS... rahman & Haye & even Lewis. Doesn't matter whicH Klitschko beats you down as long as it gets DONE!

Vitali is a Terminator,,, He cannot be stopped IMO Wlad would have no chance vs Vitali

This doesn't include the night he fought Vitali..... he deleted that from his resume as that was the night he got the worst sustained beating of his career. Ah, that explains Vitali's look of resignation at the end of Round 5. Vitali won the first few rounds, but Lewis was on top at the time of the stoppage. He would have floored Vitali if the fight had continued; that or Vitali would have quit on his stool.

Doesn't matter who he beat before or after... he had RAHMAN PRACTICALLY THROUGH THE ROPES BEFORE gassing had Wlad down 5 times in 120 seconds & GAVE Vitali a little scare for a 30 second interval... that's 3 CHAMPIONS right there.. so don't give me that in shape motivated Lewis crap... the fact that Lewis doesn't come in shape 100% of the time like both brother's Holyfield or even an Haye SPEAKS volumes about him but let's keep giving him a pass & making excuses for his poor work ethic as a champion. Lewis > Sanders, Lewis > Vitali & Lewis > Wlad. I also think you will find that Wladimir was head-butted in the first instance.

There's no question that Lewis has the better resume. This doesn't include the night he fought Vitali..... he deleted that from his resume as that was the night he got the worst sustained beating of his career.

Doesn't matter who he beat before or after... he had RAHMAN PRACTICALLY THROUGH THE ROPES BEFORE gassing had Wlad down 5 times in 120 seconds & GAVE Vitali a little scare for a 30 second interval... that's 3 CHAMPIONS right there.. so don't give me that in shape motivated Lewis crap... the fact that Lewis doesn't come in shape 100% of the time like both brother's Holyfield or even an Haye SPEAKS volumes about him but let's keep giving him a pass & making excuses for his poor work ethic as a champion. Name some wins that either of the Klits have that are better than Holyfield (He won the first fight), Ruddock, Bruno, Morrison, Tyson, and Golota.

Let's not pretend Sanders was some world-beater. Before he beat Wlad, he lost to Rahman. An in-shape, motivated Lewis stops Sanders. Who did Sanders beat that was of note AFTER beating Wlad? Doesn't matter who he beat before or after... he had RAHMAN PRACTICALLY THROUGH THE ROPES BEFORE gassing had Wlad down 5 times in 120 seconds & GAVE Vitali a little scare for a 30 second interval... that's 3 CHAMPIONS right there.. so don't give me that in shape motivated Lewis crap... the fact that Lewis doesn't come in shape 100% of the time like both brother's Holyfield or even an Haye SPEAKS volumes about him but let's keep giving him a pass & making excuses for his poor work ethic as a champion.

Yeah but who actually did the retiring? vitali instead of fighting rahman

Yeah but who actually did the retiring? There's no question that Lewis has the better resume.

I personally think so too, but then again I thought he would have done so to McCall and Rahman in the first fights as well. At least they were man enough to grant him a rematch. vitali wasn't even man enough to fight rahman so what are you talking about? that would have been the best win of his career but he didn't want to fight him. he would rather fight stationary blobs like danny williams, kirk johnson, retire then come back for some more blob hunting! sam peter, juan carlos gomez, chris arreola, etc...

If the Lewis fight had continued, Vitali would be blind in that eye, and forced to retire. Yeah but who actually did the retiring?