I know Haye's been ridiculed continuously because of the toe injury he had prior to the Klitschko fight but the fact is he did have a foot injury and he's a fighter who relies on his movement and his athleticism to not only evade but also land shots. If his feet aren't operating 100% it's definitely going to affect his performance.
I find it surprising that Klitschko was unable to knock out an injured David Haye and in fact Haye did have some success in that fight, even winning the final round clearly. So an injured David Haye lasted the full 12 rounds and even clearly won the last round against Wladimir. Imagine if it had been a 15 round fight, what would have happened?
So the question remains, if Haye hadn't been injured against Klitschko would he have actually beaten him that night? Always wondered how that fight would have played out if Haye hadn't been injured!
Funny she was just in my dorm you little b!tch, that's why I don't have to hate on boxers more successful than me.
You on the otherhand must fap to pics of david haye's girlfriends to get off while wishing you were him :lol1:
Come on man lol just a little humor and you red me? It's Friday man, where's the sense of humor?:beerchug:
If you have nothing left to say than stfu. I don't need to suck on those bottles I got my girlfriend's breasts for that. maybe if you got laid you wouldn't be so jealous of david haye.
shove dem bottles up your a$$ you pathetic jelly little david haye hater. :bryce:
you have never had a girlfriend you little faqqot. So suck em bottles. :bottle::bottle::bottle:
The thing with Haye is IF ONLY. That sums up his HW career. He could have troubled Wlad, i'm sure, but he b1tched out.
Haye's heavyweight run has been pathetic for sure.
It was just a case of winning a belt vs the biggest lumbering turd in the history of the division and then milking it as much as possible, without fighting any decent contenders.
A far cry from his CW career, where he actually went after the best guys from the start.
I don't think Haye could have beaten Wlad, then or now, toe or no toe. Vitali is a different prospect altogether though, I always thought he had a better chance of beating him.
I know Haye's been ridiculed continuously because of the toe injury he had prior to the Klitschko fight but the fact is he did have a foot injury and he's a fighter who relies on his movement and his athleticism to not only evade but also land shots. If his feet aren't operating 100% it's definitely going to affect his performance.
I find it surprising that Klitschko was unable to knock out an injured David Haye and in fact Haye did have some success in that fight, even winning the final round clearly. So an injured David Haye lasted the full 12 rounds and even clearly won the last round against Wladimir. Imagine if it had been a 15 round fight, what would have happened?
So the question remains, if Haye hadn't been injured against Klitschko would he have actually beaten him that night? Always wondered how that fight would have played out if Haye hadn't been injured!
No, no no no no no no
Haye wasn't unable to move and throw punches, he didn't want to throw punches. He evaded Wlad fine but didn't want to get in the endzone, he didn't want to take the fight to him, why? I think it's because he tasted Wlad's power early on and thought this is it, I don't want anymore of this. So he survived and picked up a career high payday. Sad but true.
When you're in a fight like that with the adrenalin pumping and a football stadium of fans and so much at stake you would not feel a swollen pinkie toe, even if you'd not taken injections or pain killers for it. Just BS from Haye fans. He lost fair and square.
Good post as usual.
Probably the best performance I saw from Wlad in terms of movement and fluidity. He didn't get too close to Haye, which was a smart thing.
He (and steward) deserves a lot of credit for their game plan, and ultimately Haye tried a little, but it simply wasn't enough.
The thing with Haye is IF ONLY. That sums up his HW career. He could have troubled Wlad, i'm sure, but he b1tched out.
So much hatred and nuthugging in this thread.
It was a good fight. Haye came in with a great game plan and did his best to execute. Wladimir meanwhile fought at a blistering pace, like he never had before, to keep Haye moving and thus not being able to set anything up. Haye didn't come in expecting to backpeddle the entire night while losing rounds; he was expecting to stop and counter Wladimir, move, and steal rounds, but Wlads pace kept him from doing ****.
People want to have their cake and eat it too; If David Haye is a bum, then Wladimir Klitschko fights bums and his most dangerous opponents have been bums. That's not true; David Haye is a world champion and a great fighter, but Wladimir is simply the best heavyweight of his era. Period. BOTH GUYS landed some big shots and BOTH GUYS took those shots way better than everyone said they would.
Wlad deserves a lot of credit for the win, because Haye and Booth pulled out all the stops; they had the best possible gameplan for winning, and the flopping to the ground thing to force the point deduction when Wladimir went in to hold was very clever. But ultimately, they were out-hustled by a better fighter in Wladimir Klitschko.
Had Haye's toe not been injured, maybe he would have thrown a bit more and taken some more chances, sure, but that would have opened him up to more shots from Klitschko.
Toe or no, the outcome would have remained the same.
Good post as usual.
Probably the best performance I saw from Wlad in terms of movement and fluidity. He didn't get too close to Haye, which was a smart thing.
He (and steward) deserves a lot of credit for their game plan, and ultimately Haye tried a little, but it simply wasn't enough.
Waiting on Haye's Bradleyfication of the fight. "I won 8 rounds to 4"
Seriously though, Haye couldn't get his shots off in the first 3 or 4 rounds so settled for a points defeat. Biggest fight of his life and he jacked it.
So much hatred and nuthugging in this thread.
It was a good fight. Haye came in with a great game plan and did his best to execute. Wladimir meanwhile fought at a blistering pace, like he never had before, to keep Haye moving and thus not being able to set anything up. Haye didn't come in expecting to backpeddle the entire night while losing rounds; he was expecting to stop and counter Wladimir, move, and steal rounds, but Wlads pace kept him from doing ****.
People want to have their cake and eat it too; If David Haye is a bum, then Wladimir Klitschko fights bums and his most dangerous opponents have been bums. That's not true; David Haye is a world champion and a great fighter, but Wladimir is simply the best heavyweight of his era. Period. BOTH GUYS landed some big shots and BOTH GUYS took those shots way better than everyone said they would.
Wlad deserves a lot of credit for the win, because Haye and Booth pulled out all the stops; they had the best possible gameplan for winning, and the flopping to the ground thing to force the point deduction when Wladimir went in to hold was very clever. But ultimately, they were out-hustled by a better fighter in Wladimir Klitschko.
Had Haye's toe not been injured, maybe he would have thrown a bit more and taken some more chances, sure, but that would have opened him up to more shots from Klitschko.
Toe or no, the outcome would have remained the same.
Haye would of finished Wlad TKO by 8 rounds max.
Evading shots is one thing, he would have utilized his foot in either a sideways or backwards motion, but then to counterpunch Wlad with sufficient force and speed he'd need his feet to adjust quickly and give him forward momentum. That injury, even though it seemed small, really could have prevented the rapid forward momentum he needed to get off the shots he wanted to consistently.
YesYESyes he would have won. He said so himself.
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Sure...
It didn't hinder his back pedaling for 12 rds, maybe taking a step forward trying to land some meaningful punches would have increased his chances of winning instead of fighting not to get hurt and resorting to only look for counters.
This exactly. Davey didn't come to take Wlad's head off as he promised he would, wearing those pathetic t shirts of his. What a clown. :pat:
You people call Haye an embarrassment without even knowing the meaning of the word. Ortiz quitting is embarrassing, Haye giving his best for 12 rounds against wladimir klitschko is not. Haye had an injured foot, combined with wlads pushing was why he kept falling. Nonetheless if you watched the fight you would see that haye landed some very good shots to wlads head and had wlad holding on for dear life in the 12th, which is more than anyone else has done in the last 10 years.
Once again, quit drinking the kool-aid and quit hating on David Haye just because you think everyone else is doing it. He had an amazing career and one off night against Wlad and gave it his best. A lot of his big shots missed wlads chin by inches, if his backfoot wasn't hurt, who knows.
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He had no problem evading Wlad's big shots, so why couldn't he land some big shots? Nope. Made no difference. Haye's a bum.
very true.
he also had no problem leaping all over the ring.