Not only does he win more than 12 rounds or knocks his opponets out. Floyd only marginally losses, or wins by a majority decision against opponents he has a reach advantage over.
Andre ward has done f all in the last year, and is still doing f all. I have froch above him the p4p.
Heres my top ten
Wlad
GGG
Floyd
Froch
ward
Sergey Kovalev
Mattyse
Martinez
Manny pac
danny garcia
You do realize those big guys are f level fighters? Nothing against the KBros, but its not our fault that they won't/can't fight each other. Unfortunately there hasn't been any other fighters to boost their credentials.
yea,,,I never said they were world beaters but many people think hes struggled with guys his size or bigger which isnt the case. its not his fault most fighters his size are clumsy and uncoordinated. I realize he doesnt have that great opponent on his resume but I think hes had enough good fighters on it over the last 10 yrs to warrant him top 5 pound for pound when you take into consideration hes barely lost more that a few rounds over that span. of course I maybe looking at pound for pound with a different perspective than you and others. I feel its just the best,, most dominant fighters regardless of weight
Not only does he win more than 12 rounds or knocks his opponets out. Floyd only marginally losses, or wins by a majority decision against opponents he has a reach advantage over.
Andre ward has done f all in the last year, and is still doing f all. I have froch above him the p4p.
Heres my top ten
Wlad
GGG
Floyd
Froch
ward
Sergey Kovalev
Mattyse
Martinez
Manny pac
danny garcia
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never agreed with that size advantage deal. hes dominated many fighters that were as tall and or heavier than him. mccline,,,jefferson,,,wach,,,wolfgramm,,,monroe,,austin etc. hes very quick for such a big man and if he was much smaller hed probably be lightning like quick. so that size excuse is a bunch of bs. being that big can hurt or help you and wlad knows how to maximize it. hed also maximize it if he were smaller in other ways im sure
You do realize those big guys are f level fighters? Nothing against the KBros, but its not our fault that they won't/can't fight each other. Unfortunately there hasn't been any other fighters to boost their credentials.
The pound for pound rankings are aload of nonsense, and are basis towards smaller weight classes....
David Haye when he was WBA heavyweight champion, and former Cruiser weight Champion! beating guys at heavyweight out weighing him by a average of 203 stone! should of been in the top 10 pound for pound rankings...
But he wasn't because, he is not a welterweight...
The pound for pound rankings are aload of nonsense and are based off nothing, but popularity, and media nonsense....
Roy Jones was the last pound for pound number 1, that went above and beyond to claim it out right!
Well if he had better opposition, then he wouldn't have been as dominant as is shown by his history.
So squash that right there.
Wlad's beaten better fighters than the guys who beat him :laugh:
Fighting unranked bums and hug your way to victory = P4P #1
he has some bums mixed in but also a good share of highly ranked opponents and he's only cliched excessively in the first peter and povetkin fights. you dont get 52 kayos by hugging your way to victory. anyway,,,I sure as hells dont consider mayweather or espescially ward any more exciting. at least wlad has that big power in both hands and usually detonates it at some point. better than watching people slap there way to victory with decision wins
Not only does he win more than 12 rounds or knocks his opponets out. Floyd only marginally losses, or wins by a majority decision against opponents he has a reach advantage over.
Andre ward has done f all in the last year, and is still doing f all. I have froch above him the p4p.
Heres my top ten
Wlad
GGG
Floyd
Froch
ward
Sergey Kovalev
Mattyse
Martinez
Manny pac
danny garcia
:blackeye: Do you have extra chromosomes? did you go to nightschool to learn enough to grow a thumb?
if he had better opponents to face, he definitely would be
Wlad is boxing's most dominant juggernaut far and away
but he'll never get full props for it due to his division being stale
he needs to keep all his belts so the best HW's can't duck him
but that means he's stuck honoring weak mandatories
it's not his fault, but it denies him some credit he'd need to be #1
he might get the top spot eventually though
Pac's done, Floyd's almost done, and Ward fell off hard
Well if he had better opposition, then he wouldn't have been as dominant as is shown by his history.
So squash that right there.
if he had better opponents to face, he definitely would be
Wlad is boxing's most dominant juggernaut far and away
but he'll never get full props for it due to his division being stale
he needs to keep all his belts so the best HW's can't duck him
but that means he's stuck honoring weak mandatories
it's not his fault, but it denies him some credit he'd need to be #1
he might get the top spot eventually though
Pac's done, Floyd's almost done, and Ward fell off hard
The guys he has fought close to his size are all like Wach, not very good. Now that is not exactly Wlad's fault because there are just less large talented men.
Wlad is a talented large man which is why he is what he is and he knows how to use that.
It creates a huge match-up problem, because he is quicker and better skilled than the bigger guys, but he out sizes the guys that could match him better in those attributes. Size plays a huge role for him that I don't think you can separate him from and say with great certainty he would still be an excellent fighter.
I get what youre saying but I just think all that size can also be a detriment. moving all that length and weight around. thats part of the reason most heavies his size just arent very good or coordinated. I think hed be a different type of fighter if he was a small to medium sized heavyweight. hed maximize it in a different way. but anyway,,,its all conjecture. I can see arguments against it
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