floyd ducked Khan and then looked average against Maidana who Khan whupped much more impressively and nearly stopped him in 1 round.. yea I know some people say Floyd was toying with maidana just to make it look like a more exciting fight but thats just opinions.. lets talk about facts:
Now Khan beat down Collazo - a guy who beat Ortiz in only 2 rounds while Floyd took 4 + a suckerpunch to beat Ortiz. Not to mention that Khan himself stopped Ortiz in only 2 rounds as an amateur. < these are all facts
I've said before Collazo is about the same level or even a better fighter than Maidana and look what Khan did to him and Maidana, compared to how Floyd had more difficulty with Maidana.
So we see now that styles make fights. Khan's style will tend to beat Floyd's, he'll win 8 rounds to 4 or 7 rounds to 5.. lets say Khan wins 7 times out of 10 against Floyd whereas Floyd would win 3 times out of 10.
The problem is, Floyd and his team are well aware of this so will Floyd duck again and will half the boxing world pretend as if he isn't ducking because they don't understand that styles make fights?
Khan has always been faster than Mayweather. All that he lacked was the ring IQ, something that Virgil Hunter has helped build up in spades. The old reckless Khan would've got out-smarted by Mayweather, but under Virgil Hunter this time around, the new defensive Khan 2.0 has what it takes to beat Mayweather, or at the very least give him a very competitive fight.
agreed, khan's defense and ring IQ has improved under hunter and he's no longer fighting as predictably as once was, like in the garcia fight that's the most predictable i've ever seen khan, he kept throwing the same double jab uppercut combo from round 1, but it's purely because he trained himself for the fight while roach was away training pac in Philippines..
so that version of khan who trains himself would get beat by mayweather 10 times out of 10 - in fact he'd get beaten by a lot fighters because no world class boxer should train themselves.. but now, khan has a trainer who spends time working on flaws, correcting those mistakes and bad habits khan picked up from training himself for a few fights so khan beats mayweather around 7 times out of 10 now.. it's always competitive but khan has too much for mayweather on most nights..
Your post is triangle theory. There is nothing in it that explains how floyd's style matches up with Khan's.
Khan has always been faster than Mayweather. All that he lacked was the ring IQ, something that Virgil Hunter has helped build up in spades. The old reckless Khan would've got out-smarted by Mayweather, but under Virgil Hunter this time around, the new defensive Khan 2.0 has what it takes to beat Mayweather, or at the very least give him a very competitive fight.
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you have a muhammad ali picture, he was one of the best boxers & talkers the world has ever seen, and you can't even string together a single sentence?
don't disrespect ali ever again, you dont rep him right
Your post is triangle theory. There is nothing in it that explains how floyd's style matches up with Khan's.
I'm afraid you are dumb piece of sh1t.
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Khan seems like a nice enough guy, but the only people I hear speak highly of him are (a) Brits and (b) certain Floyd fans who want him to be Floyd's opponent because they know he won't take his 0.
Khan can't fight Mayweather in September anyway, so let him fight Guerrero, Porter, Thurman, or even Alexander at the end of 2014 to prove to us that he's the goods.
khan is a very cool dude, i talked with him several times in the past and i even talked with mayweather who's also pretty cool.. i would reverse your statements and say that people who talk down about khan are (a) inherent racists who don't like seeing a person of Khan's ethnicity succeeding and (b) Floyd fans who know he ducked Khan for a reason and (c) fat JOEs
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Nearly everyone on this site predicted a clear boxing clinic from Mayweather and for Louis to stop Khan within 4 rounds and look how wrong you were
thats true.. even i (and i'm probably one of the most knowledgeable boxing heads this site has ever seen) predicted mayweather would totally dominate maidana in all rounds, but he chose to fight him like he fought cotto instead of how he fought canelo which is something i didnt predict, especially with floyd sr in his corner..
but i could tell from the corner advice sr was giving jr that they actually trained to have that kind of fight and try to KO maidana - that was totally unexpected, you would have thought they'd just kept it easy and outbox him instead of trying to brawl with a brawler.. but i guess floyd really did want to entertain the crowd in that fight and get a ko.. he said in the post-fight that he could have made it an easy fight by boxing but that people would find it boring.. it sounds like floyd actually tried to "put on a show" this time around.. but it ended up being just a sort of sloppy boring fight anyway.. would have been more entertaining if floyd just outboxed him instead..
as far as khan beating collazo - he did that even more impressively than i had predicted because collazo is around the same level as maidana.. i thought the fight was going to be closer but Khan pretty much shut out and dominated collazo..
Khan seems like a nice enough guy, but the only people I hear speak highly of him are (a) Brits and (b) certain Floyd fans who want him to be Floyd's opponent because they know he won't take his 0.
Khan can't fight Mayweather in September anyway, so let him fight Guerrero, Porter, Thurman, or even Alexander at the end of 2014 to prove to us that he's the goods.
Miadana starting beating the **** outta Khan later in the fight. And im not talking about swinging hoping to catch. He started rockin Khan. Collazo was walking thru him with his hands down.Nothing you said means help beat mayweather.
Maidana had very few moments of success in the Khan fight, people have exaggerated it like crazy.. i even heard that retard Nes on that boxingvoice radio show say that there was a particular round where cortez saved khan because he "kept breaking up the action when Maidana got close" so i watched that round again and he only broke them up like twice in the whole round.. and i mean the WHOLE round.. lol... you see how people completely distort reality just so it suits their story.. that dude acting like cortez breaking up every 10 seconds when he only broke them up twice in the WHOLE DAMN ROUND - a number which is actually WAY below average! lol... those Khan-haters are seriously deluded individuals.. i put it to the test and proved it..
Miadana starting beating the **** outta Khan later in the fight. And im not talking about swinging hoping to catch. He started rockin Khan. Collazo was walking thru him with his hands down.Nothing you said means help beat mayweather.
So?
Maidana landed a bomb on his chin. A shot that would have flattened most fighters.
Chavez Jr started beating the sh1t out of Martinez late in the fight. Have you ever discredited that win because of that?
Also it's not walking through when you get put on your arse three times. It's trying to walk through, and failing miserably.
I think that the styles make fights card is less likely to win Khan a match against Floyd than it is to make him lose, despite the fact that Khan is better than Maidana in almost every way he is also is in possession of a style that was tailor made to give Maidana a loss. I honestly don't think its a style that works well in the other matchup since it requires beating Mayweather in a straight up boxing match on points.
Khan more than likely can't knock him out, and would get outpointed by a narrow margin most of the fight. I think Money would be a lot more cautious with Khan as well. That said Mayweather's reflexes are waning and Khan is a fast guy so I could easily see it going to a close decision in the other direction.
I have always thought that Mayweather would be more vulnerable to someone who could cut off the ring and lure him into a brawl. Maidana could have won if his footwork and ring control were better.
Nice break down man. I agree to a degree, that's why I say Mayweather beats Khan 3 times out of 10 because it's always a fairly close fight. It's just at this stage of his career Mayweather is slightly faded, just ever-so-slightly, but that's enough for Khan to beat him with the additional speed, angles, combos and movement.. I can't see Mayweather stopping Khan - I actually see him being overwhelmed by the speed in quite a few instances throughout the fight.
The thing about Mayweather being vulnerable to someone cutting off the ring his legs seem to be on the decline, although he claims he chose to box that way in order to make the fight more exciting - so, if that's true, he was sort of toying with Maidana. But if his legs are on the decline then the bullrushing style should have some success simply because his footwork is compromised.
I guess ultimately the decline in footwork just makes a fighter more vulnerable all-round..
How many threads does this guy have to make for people to realise he's trolling?
It does the job.
Watch all the 'tards come in smashing away at their keyboards in anger.
Isn't this the same guy who made a thread asking ''does Khan's win over Diaz make him P4P number 1'' or something silly like that? :lol1:
he beats floyd ????
based on what ?????
floyd will toy with him .
however after bradley v pac i could see pac in a lot slower and thought floyd will beat him easy , after watching how floyds legs were in the maidana fight i am convinced it will be competitive .
but lets not get carried away khan will be a force at 147.
put him in there with a top 5 contender and we will see
Miadana starting beating the **** outta Khan later in the fight. And im not talking about swinging hoping to catch. He started rockin Khan. Collazo was walking thru him with his hands down.Nothing you said means help beat mayweather.
Not really. He got put on his arse three times. He thought he could walk through Khan. Collazo fought like a bit of a berk and it was fortunate to get out of the 10th.
On the thread. Khan would be competitive early. But Mayweather would have start timing him and probably stop him late because Khan will go out on his shield and not be content to drop a decision.
when khan gets in trouble hell go back to his old ways, pretty easy to do your game plan when a guy is walking towards you like a caveman with both hands down lol