Is Matthyse a more polished version of Maidana?

Matthysse has the edge in a lot of areas, he's probably better at most things come to think of it. But unlike Lucas, Maidana doesn't fuck around and goes to work. He's better at taking the initiative, and he's relentless when he's got a foothold in the fight. Matthysse is too to be fair, but he's a far more tentative fighter and doesn't force the pace of the fight in the same way. I think the fact that Maidana's a bit faster might be a factor in their stylistic differences too. It gives him more confidence to step in and lead. It would be an awesome clash if they met. Maidana to do better early on, Lucas to get on top going down the stretch.

Yes and that just means Danny Garcia would whoop Marcos Maidana.

Maidana has none. >__>... Lucas has SOME lol I hope you're joking, a lack of head movement is part of the reason Lucas lost to Danny, and good defense is why Maidana doesn't get marked up. Maidana has head movement.

I gotta say their intangibles are different. Maidana keeps his cool better than Matthysse. Matthysse has better conditioning and work rate. Id say Matthysse is a better boxer but as of right now Maidana has been better against the best hes fought. I still like Matthysse to win if he and Maidana ever fight.

Chino is one of the most deceitful boxers there is. He has deceptive skills, like Robert Garcia said when you see him shadow box he looks like a amateur and nothing really special, but when you get in the ring with him it's a different story. His body language doesn't say much that's where he gets you. A lot boxers watching tape might say won't get hit with that overhand right but they do. Everyone he fought including Floyd got hit with it, even on the ropes he goes for the body attack then throws that uppercut, then when you least expect it, BOOM that overhand hits and it fast as F**K. Floyd already dropped his guard because he had to respect Chinos power to the body that's when he throws that overhand right. Floyd even said he got surprised on how good a jab Chino got.

Seems he throws more compact straight punches, has insane stamina for 12 rounds and has the power to wear down and stop guys with a barrage of power punches. Just wondering what you guys think? Nothing alike except both hit hard and are aggressive. Matthysse is actually a boxer puncher whereas Maidana is a puncher, a wild man and it's wild men who have the best chances to beat guys like Mayweather. Matthysse would simply get outboxed and outclassed, heck I thought that about Maidana because I didn't believe him to have the speed to catch Mayweather but that night, he seemed like lightning almost. Matthysse is a cultured beast. Maidana is a wild man.

^^^ this. maidana is still so underrated its not even funny

Yes... ...

I said the same thing and I was told I had double standards. -_- Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android The double standards comment was because you and Dan Cov for the last two years have treated Matthysse like a god and Maidana like a piece of shit and i think that's a bit too much. Matthysse is more polish technically but i think Chino has other attributes that makes him an unpredictable fighter.

the fact that chino isnt polished is advantageous to him, it is difficult for people to time his shots due to the akwardness

I feel that Maidana is a better fighter than Matthysse is a boxer. In other words, Maidana uses his brawling/fighting style much more effectively than Matthysse uses his boxing skills. I also think that at 147, Maidana would beat Matthysse clearly. I just think that Matthysse can get a little too shook up from hard punches and knock downs, while Maidana instead wakes up. Also I like that when things aren't going Maidana's way, he does not complain, he just gets even. When Matthysse is losing or gets cut, he looks a bit lost. Matthysse is the more polished boxer of the two, not a more polished version of Maidana. But that does not matter, Mayweather, Broner, Ortiz, Kotelnyk, Khan were all far more polished boxers than Maidana but Maidana still beat 3 of those guys and fought very competitively against two other one's. I agree. I think Matthysse is a little overrated by fan boys. He hasn't ever won a big fight (barring Peterson). He is a better technical fighter than Maidana in some respects but Maidana's jab has vastly improved his overall presence in the ring. I think Maidana's awkwardness makes him special. I think Garcia beats Matthysse again. But if Garcia moves up--Maidana would be too much for him. Too violent, too awkward, too much pressure.

I feel that Maidana is a better fighter than Matthysse is a boxer. In other words, Maidana uses his brawling/fighting style much more effectively than Matthysse uses his boxing skills. I also think that at 147, Maidana would beat Matthysse clearly. I just think that Matthysse can get a little too shook up from hard punches and knock downs, while Maidana instead wakes up. Also I like that when things aren't going Maidana's way, he does not complain, he just gets even. When Matthysse is losing or gets cut, he looks a bit lost. Matthysse is the more polished boxer of the two, not a more polished version of Maidana. But that does not matter, Mayweather, Broner, Ortiz, Kotelnyk, Khan were all far more polished boxers than Maidana but Maidana still beat 3 of those guys and fought very competitively against two other one's.

Quote: Originally Posted by ColdBlooded In the past I would have easily said yes, but Maidana has really improved under Robert Garcia. Matthysse does throw straighter punches. One area where Matthysse is clearly better than Maidana is defense. I'd say Matthysse is still better than Maidana, but the gap has definitely closed somewhat. I also can't recall a recent instance of Matthysse feinting, whereas Maidana has done that a lot recently. Wrong. When have you ever seen Maidana with a closed eye? ... Never! He moves his head better. Please tell me this guy isn't serious. Lol Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Maidana's awkward right hook to the side of the head would KO Matthysse IMO. Look at what John Molina's right hook did to Matthysse. Almost stopped him. You're kidding, right? Matthysse was caught on the temple with the first one. It was a simple case of an equilibrium shot putting him off balance. The second was a rabbit punch. He wasn't hurt from either punch. He literally got up smiling about them.

Matthysse. He just does everything better and is the more devastating puncher. I don't think his chin is shot either he just came unprepared (underestimated) for the fight against a very hard punching and game Molina. Molina is a huge puncher and has some size on him. No shame going down on the shots Lucas went down with (one to the back of the head and another clean shot coming in). He took most shots from Danny and Molina pretty much all night some of the ones he and Danny landed on each other were nukes. I still want to know how Molina made 135. :/

Matthysse. He just does everything better and is the more devastating puncher. I don't think his chin is shot either he just came unprepared (underestimated) for the fight against a very hard punching and game Molina.

Someone in here said lucas has better defense. I lol'd. Maidana has none. >__>... Lucas has SOME lol

Someone in here said lucas has better defense. I lol'd.

The only things that Maidana and Matthysse have in common is that they're both hard punching boxers from Argentina whose last names start with the letter M. Stylistically, they're nothing alike. Matthysse is much more polished and technical in his savagery. I said the same thing and I was told I had double standards. -_- Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

He seems to be Maidana with more skills and more pure power in his punches. But that doesnt make him better or worse for that matter. Maidana's limitations are what make him a good FIGHTER. They're both very violent in their approach though. I suppose it's like.. Maidana is a hurricane and Lucas is a tornado. Personally I think Lucas is a better boxer and fighter. But Maidana is such a brute at times that it somehow works. Though he does have skills hes shown and isn't as brutish as he appears.