Mayweather-Maidana 2nd watch.......

After a second viewing you can see Maidana was missing alot of those punches while Floyd was on the ropes. I had it 8-4 Floyd

Scoring it live I had it: 1 - Chino 2 - Mayweather 3 - Chino 4 - Mayweather 5 - Chino 6 - Chino 7 - Mayweather 8 - Chino 9 - Mayweather 10 - Mayweather 11 - Mayweather 12 - Mayweather I couldn't believe it when after 8 rounds I had it 77-75 for Chino. It was there for him at that point, but he didn't have enough gas in the tank for one last big push going down the stretch. Close rounds throughout for the most part though. Chino shocked me. I never thought he could close the distance enough against Floyd to be competitive, never mind stand a chance of winning.

Mayweather throughout his defensive strategy

Margarito would have a GREAT shot to beat Floyd now, or at least a good shot. BUT.....Floyd in his prime back in 06 wouldn't have lingered on the ropes, and Margarito is much much slower than Maidana, and doesn't punch quite as hard either. Floyd would have been running around against Margarito like the Hatton fight, or even more so. Its fair to say Floyd has slipped. There were a lot of spots in the Cotto fight where I thought Miguel could have won rounds if he would have just moved his hands more. And that was a shopworn Cotto. Maidana's overhand/borderline illegal right was a brilliant tactic too. I'll give him credit on that.

Second time I watched it I had Maidana winning.

This fight also reminded me of Whitaker-Hurtado in that Whitaker struggled because of Hurtado's awkwardness, Pernell however finished in great fashion although the ref should have been fired. Just similar from that kind of perspective. Very much so. The rate he's declining I don't see him finishing his contract undefeated.

This fight also reminded me of Whitaker-Hurtado in that Whitaker struggled because of Hurtado's awkwardness, Pernell however finished in great fashion although the ref should have been fired. Just similar from that kind of perspective.

no clue how the 12th round was given to mayweather. common really I agree, I know that most of the posters in this specific thread are legit (not fanboys), but Mayweather was only holding in the 12th while Chino was unloading. He usually does this in the last round (one of the few rounds that Canelo won in their fight).

The gloves were a ***** move on Floyd's part. I really have a problem with that. It makes me wonder how he would have dealed with prime Margarito at147. Overall even though I thought Floyd clearly won at least 7 rounds, he did not look that great. Margarito would have a GREAT shot to beat Floyd now, or at least a good shot. BUT.....Floyd in his prime back in 06 wouldn't have lingered on the ropes, and Margarito is much much slower than Maidana, and doesn't punch quite as hard either. Floyd would have been running around against Margarito like the Hatton fight, or even more so.

Yeah I scored 3 for Maidana aswell but that wasn't a clear round either. We have people saying Maidana won atleast 4 of the first 6! It's insanity to me. Albeit that's pretty seldom really. Yeah to me his decline has been so obvious. A lot of punches JUST missed him by a whisker in this fight, he's so ridiculously slower in every aspect of his game. The dominant victories over Guererro and Canelo have masked it, for me atleast it's pretty obvious how much he's declined despite that. Very similar to Roy Jones in his latter years at the top. The John Ruiz fight people acted like he was at his best ever because he dominated but it was pretty clear to me his reflexes were declining and fast. Floyd is only going to continue going downhill from here. Porter I think has a very serious chance of beating him. Despite winning the fight last night and against a top fighter in Maidana that's by far the worse I've seen him. The rematch isn't as appealing after watching it a second time, Mayweather should most definitely move on before that decline hurts him against these other '47 pounders, namely Porter, Thurman. Agree with bold, especially offensively.

AND this was done with sparring gloves. I am positive, and so he has stated, that with the normal MX / Cleto Reyes gloves he would have hurt floyd and dropped him AT LEAST, AT THE VERY LEAST, once. The dynamic of the fight would have also changed with the fear of Chino's power. The gloves were a ***** move on Floyd's part. I really have a problem with that. It makes me wonder how he would have dealed with prime Margarito at147. Overall even though I thought Floyd clearly won at least 7 rounds, he did not look that great.

I saw the BoxNation HD version, Showtime crew got caught up in the moment and I guess that stopped me from seeing things clearly as well.

Round 3 was a tough one no doubt but I favored Maidana there. I seriously cant understand how anyone has round 4 for Maidana, he landed nothing, Mayweather landed every clean punch that round. Round 6 clear Mayweather round as well, it was Mayweather's going into the last 10 seconds and he finished it landing by landing a lead left hook/ overhand right. As for Mayweather's decline you were right there, I think Porter can be a serious problem although I want Thurman to reassure me that he is. Yeah I scored 3 for Maidana aswell but that wasn't a clear round either. We have people saying Maidana won atleast 4 of the first 6! It's insanity to me. Albeit that's pretty seldom really. Yeah to me his decline has been so obvious. A lot of punches JUST missed him by a whisker in this fight, he's so ridiculously slower in every aspect of his game. The dominant victories over Guererro and Canelo have masked it, for me atleast it's pretty obvious how much he's declined despite that. Very similar to Roy Jones in his latter years at the top. The John Ruiz fight people acted like he was at his best ever because he dominated but it was pretty clear to me his reflexes were declining and fast. Floyd is only going to continue going downhill from here. Porter I think has a very serious chance of beating him. Despite winning the fight last night and against a top fighter in Maidana that's by far the worse I've seen him.

Just saying :lol1: I assumed on second watch you'd consider it less ridiculous especially the 6th Round being one that Floyd easily can have won. Yeah I think I mixed up the 5th and 6th initially. I remembered there was one middle round that was clear Maidana and one that was close, that was probably Floyd. And then the 2nd was clearly Floyd. Then Floyd took 5 of the last 6 IMO. All good man. You still one of my favorite posters man.

I can't wait to score this one again. Me and the 10 other people I had with me did not get the impression Maidana was close to winning at all. I was actually suprised when I saw AL Bernstein card after 6 and remember thinking NSB must be killing this guy. Anyway I thought Floyd clearly took over the second half of the fight. I don't remember him really getting tagged either other than the first round. All Maidana really did was try and maul Floyd like Hatton did. Cotto landed more clean blows than Maidana did.

AND this was done with sparring gloves. I am positive, and so he has stated, that with the normal MX / Cleto Reyes gloves he would have hurt floyd and dropped him AT LEAST, AT THE VERY LEAST, once. The dynamic of the fight would have also changed with the fear of Chino's power.

I have the exact same card as you. I thought both the 3rd was close (Scored for Maidana) and the 4th was close (Scored for Floyd). What do you think of the 6th? Some people consider than a clear Maidana round.... Baffling, I know. The only clear cut Rounds Maidana had in the fight were 1, 5 and 8. Round 3 was a tough one no doubt but I favored Maidana there. I seriously cant understand how anyone has round 4 for Maidana, he landed nothing, Mayweather landed every clean punch that round. Round 6 clear Mayweather round as well, it was Mayweather's going into the last 10 seconds and he finished it landing by landing a lead left hook/ overhand right. As for Mayweather's decline you were right there, I think Porter can be a serious problem although I want Thurman to reassure me that he is.

Really bringing this up again??? Just saying :lol1: I assumed on second watch you'd consider it less ridiculous especially the 6th Round being one that Floyd easily can have won.

1st Round: Not a whole lot was done, but Maidana got him on the ropes at least half the round, and landed to the body and a few to the head. Overall, Floyd just lingered on the ropes too much. 10-9 Maidana 2nd Round: Floyd did a much better job with the right hand, and the counters off the ropes. Maidana did have success in a couple brief stretches on the ropes, but Floyd clinched successfully in this round for the mot part. Too much work in the center of the ring that Floyd did, plus landed some sharp counters to the head and body off the ropes. 19-19 3rd Round: Close round. Floyd hit him with a few nice combos early, Maidana did well forcing him to the ropes though. Floyd may have lingered too often on the ropes yet again, but still got some of his work in. Close round, I'll give it to Maidana for out working him while both landed some good shots. 29-28 Maidana 4th Round: Maidana really made Floyd move around this round, and cut the ring well. Trapped him on the ropes several times. Even when the punches weren't all landing on the ropes, he nullified Floyd's return attack pretty well. Mayweather had his moments, landed some nice body shots, but Maidana forcing him to the ropes landing his own body shots and a few head shots won him the round. 39-37 Maidana 5th Round: Pretty clear Maidana round on 2nd viewing. Mayweather wasn't on the ropes too often, but he simply wasn't busy enough to win the round. He didn't really landed anything of note aside from a few punches, while Maidana was throwing and even landed some right hands from a distance. Mayweather simply didn't do enough to win this round. 49-46 Maidana 6th Round: Close round the first 1:45, Maidana having some success here and there with Floyd on the ropes, though Mayweather did much better this round landing counters from there, and blocking most all what Maidana did. The last 1:00-1:15 Floyd put on a show. Landed tons of right hands, quick left hooks, etc. Floyd won a competitive round. 58-56 Maidana 7th Round: Floyd's best round up till this point. Fought most of the round in the center of the ring, landing nearly at will with right hands and/or left hooks. Also, the times Maidana had him on the ropes, he didn't land much. Floyd blocked well, and countered a lot off the ropes with quick left hooks and body shots. Clear Floyd round. 67-66 Maidana 8th Round: First minute Maidana did well, forcing Floyd to the ropes and not letting him get off, while landing some of his own body shots. The 2nd minute Floyd did better, keeping it in the center, landing his own right hands. The last minute, I felt Maidana did enough, especially landing a couple shots on Floyd with about 30 seconds left and not letting Floyd do much, to win the round. 77-75 Maidana 9th Round: Mayweather did a good job of keeping the fight center ring, and even backing Maidana up here and there. He landed tons of right hands, as well as his own body shots. Maidana didn't hardly land anything when he had Floyd on the ropes, and landed just a few jabs really. Clear Mayweather round. 86-85 Maidana 10th Round: Competitive round. Floyd did well early tagging Maidana with more right hands. But Maidana did better in the middle, taking Floyd to the ropes not letting him get off. Floyd sealed it the last minute though, landing some big right hands, and Maidana simply didn't land enough clean stuff. 95-95 Even 11th Round: Floyd landed nearly all the clean shots the first half of the round. Though Maidana did better the 2nd half of the round, he didn't really landed anything of note aside from some rabbit punches on the ropes. Floyd did land an eye catching right hand to end the round. Maidana simply didn't do enough clean work to negate all the punches Floyd landed the first half of the round. If there was possibly an even round though, it could be this. 105-104 Mayweather 12th Round: Mayweather once again landed nearly all the clean punches the first half of the round. Maidana did better the next minute, landing some body shots, but Floyd still throwing counters as well. The last 30 seconds Floyd sealed the round with some sharp right hand counters. Floyd won a competitive round. 115-113 Mayweather OVERALL...................... Maidana did tremendous the first 5 rounds. He won 4 of the first 5, and at this point I really thought Floyd was going to lose the fight. Mayweather really only got off more, defended along the ropes well, in the 2nd round, which I felt Floyd won clearly. From round 6 to the end though, Floyd really adjusted like all the greats have to do sometimes, and nullified much of Maidana's attack along the ropes. And he really started tagging him often for the majority of the rounds. Aside from near the end of the 8th round, where Maidana landed some eye catching shots on him, Maidana didn't really land anough clean shots to win any of the rounds. Meanwhile Floyd was landing at will at times in the middle of the ring, defended and nullified Maidana off the ropes, as well as landing his own counters off the ropes. Mayweather usually figures people out after a couple rounds, it took him longer this time, he didn't really figure out Maidana until the 6th round. But from then on, he dug deep and won the fight. Sometimes the greats get tested, and Maidana did well the first 5 rounds with the Castillo blueprint of not letting Floyd breathe. But Mayweather as usual adjusted well and won the fight, close but clear IMO. It was a great fight, and Mayweather also disproved any notion that he would crumble if he was ever cut. I thought Maidana won the 12th but lost the 4th. The rounds that can create the 117-111 score are the 3rd and 8th both very close rounds. I gave Floyd the 8th round so i had it 116-112.

Not sure how anyone can give May the 12th, so that's a draw bby your score. I had it 7-5 Maidana. Have no problem with a draw or 7-5 may though. 11th was closer than the 12th. Floyd landed nearly every single punch that was clear the first half of the round. Maidana did better the middle part of the round, landed some decent shots, then Floyd sealed it with 2-3 hard right hands the last 30 seconds.