Last Night Felt Like Jones vs Tarver 1

People were saying the SAME thing after the Cotto fight, short term memory on here huh? The reality is that a fighter who can bully Floyd(Castillo, Cotto, Maidana) will give Mayweather trouble.

also both roy and floyd were coming off impressive perfomances. roy beating ruiz and floyd beating canelo

Yes it did. I had this discussion with my brother last night.

So I guess all these people are suggesting Maidana is going to spark Mayweather out with one punch in the rematch? Or is it some other flight of fancy? Come on. Don't be so daft. No one is suggesting that Mayweather is going to start getting knocked into a coma every fight.

So I guess all these people are suggesting Maidana is going to spark Mayweather out with one punch in the rematch? Or is it some other flight of fancy? I don't think Floyd will fall as hard as Roy did.. Just think that he is clearly on the downside and this may be the beginning of the end for Floyd as the top p4p guy.. Floyd is entering Hopkins territory where he can still beat a lot of guys, but in the future will have to be smart in opponent selection

I know I wasn't the only one who thought that I mentioned this to a friend last night. You are right on.

There are comparisons but in Jones case he was cutting all that muscle he built up which lead to his deterioration along with age/nature where it's relevant is that both were still fast but had lost that sudden quickness.

I was talking about this with irondan earlier, and this fight definitely reminded me of Roy-tarver. Just the way he retreats to the ropes.. I think Floyd adjusted much better down the stretch than Roy did, but a lot of similarities especially retreating the ropes.. Early rounds I was having de ja vu

So I guess all these people are suggesting Maidana is going to spark Mayweather out with one punch in the rematch? Or is it some other flight of fancy?

Interesting fact: the judges scores were exactly the same for both fights 12:57 damn I never even thought of that

Jones had been on the decline for years. And like Mayweather, people couldn't see it because he was still dominating opponents. It isn't that they grew old overnight, but just a little slip further is the difference between a punch landing or missing. Jones began slipping hardcore when he fought Derrick Harmon. It really showed a year or two later against Clinton Woods. Then the brilliant performance against Ruiz. Then all of a sudden he looks human against Tarver. I think people haven't been paying attention to the signs with Mayweather. This wasn't a crash landing to earth. More like a gradual descent. That fight was after Jones failed a drug test post Richard Hall. If someone starts and stops taking Androstenedione they can suddenly look bad once the stuff is out of their system.

Jones had been on the decline for years. And like Mayweather, people couldn't see it because he was still dominating opponents. It isn't that they grew old overnight, but just a little slip further is the difference between a punch landing or missing. Jones began slipping hardcore when he fought Derrick Harmon. It really showed a year or two later against Clinton Woods. Then the brilliant performance against Ruiz. Then all of a sudden he looks human against Tarver. I think people haven't been paying attention to the signs with Mayweather. This wasn't a crash landing to earth. More like a gradual descent. even in the Ortiz fight, it look like Floyd was declining. IMHO, the last fight Floyd was in his prime was the hatton fight

It certainly went through my mind as well. Chino in the rematch before the opening bell: "No tienes excusas hoy Floyd?"

Yes it did, where in Roy Jones Vs Tarver 1, I still had Jones winning the first fight, but you could CLEARLY see where Roy Jones skill, reflex, speed was diminishing. It was the first sign that his prime was over. And I saw that same thing, Mayweather still won, but against a fighter that even if he allowed himself to be smothered, he should have won quite easy. So Mayweather is defintely on the decline. Jones had been on the decline for years. And like Mayweather, people couldn't see it because he was still dominating opponents. It isn't that they grew old overnight, but just a little slip further is the difference between a punch landing or missing. Jones began slipping hardcore when he fought Derrick Harmon. It really showed a year or two later against Clinton Woods. Then the brilliant performance against Ruiz. Then all of a sudden he looks human against Tarver. I think people haven't been paying attention to the signs with Mayweather. This wasn't a crash landing to earth. More like a gradual descent.

Interesting fact: the judges scores were exactly the same for both fights 12:57

It's a comparison I thought of as well. Although that had the added element of being the first after Jones fought at heavyweight. Another comparison may be Whitaker-Rivera I (although there was more controversy over Whitaker's win at the time than Mayweather's). We'll see what Mayweather does his next fight...and if there's a rematch.

I swear to you, it was the very first thing I said to my buddy after the fight. It feels like that kind of turning point to me. imagine a rematch and maidana wins by tko.

Wow, good comparison..didn't think of it but it definitely had that feel now that I think about it. Now, if we get the spectacular KO in the rematch, I'll be a very happy person(unlike when Roy got KO).

I know I wasn't the only one who thought that I swear to you, it was the very first thing I said to my buddy after the fight. It feels like that kind of turning point to me.