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"They forced me to use a heavily padded foam glove. They had so MUCH CUSHION I STRUGGLED TO GET HAND IN. VERY UNCOMFORTABLE".
GARCIA ALSO COMPARED THEM AT THE PRESS TO SHOW THEY HAD AS MUCH PADDING / CUSHION AS SPARRING GLOVES!!
AND HE STILL PULLED IT OUT!! Had he been allowed to use the punchers gloves we know he would have hurt floyd. Punches that graced had a softer impact (heavy foam) compared to a stronger end glove (horse hair/thinner).
THEY REJECTED 10 PAIRS OF PUNCHERS GLOVES INCLUDING CLETO REYES.
SO ****ING PROUD OF MAIDANAAA!! WAAAR MAIDANAAA!!! We'll give him the rematch!!!
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This gutless c*cksucker pretending that he isn't a fl*mo, despite defending him on a regular basis and defending him in a situation that is completely and utterly indefensible.
And your argument goes to crap when they said he couldn't wear cleto Reyes gloves when Garcia ask for them
I want to hear your excuse on why maidana was denied to wear cleto Reyes.
This should be good
im not like you, dude. i just like boxing.
its not a reality show to me, i have no agenda and i could care less about the drama. you expect me to try to make excuses up? i dont do that, i never make anything up i just call it like i see it. those reyes gloves, i havent seen them so i cant say.
the fact that he rejected that many gloves seems odd, but he fought plenty of big hitters wearing punchers gloves. more importantly he really thought there was something wrong with those gloves, he is no actor. he thought there was foul play involved, not saying he was right just saying thats what he thought. it might have made him more paranoid as they brought the other gloves.
idk though, none of us do. we are all just speculating. the entire situation is odd and as always people just blame floyd. i dont always defend him, in fact i usually dont. but this is just one big mess.
Looks like a lot of people found out some of what really happens behind the scenes in a professional fight. Wasn't the first time and will not be the last time gloves are determined by one side. Ask Oscar.
Everything was signed already in this fight and it was agreed or should I say, there was nothing in the contract to stipulate that Maidana couldn't wear those gloves ...... and the red ones were approved.
I would pay money for the glove selection process alone if Floyd and Manny ever fought. It would be war in that room Roach would go crazy and mayweather's boys would cry foul on everything. Ive worn Grant,everlast and reyes. There is a reason why Floyd picks grant everyone knows this, Grant gloves are cushioned like crazy and protect the hand so much but the result is a lack of power. Everlast gloves depending on what type are the same thing but how much does anyone want to bet that these were the same type of gloves he used against Broner and floyd got shook. Reyes gloves everyone knows that they are punchers gloves and i have 2 pairs of those.
Looks like a lot of people found out some of what really happens behind the scenes in a professional fight. Wasn't the first time and will not be the last time gloves are determined by one side. Ask Oscar.
Without putting that condition in the contract? Chino didn´t sign that. It was a ****ty move by TMT
Who would be advising Chino on how to handle the glove situation? Robert Garcia wanted the MX's and the NSAC said the red ones were ok, so who convinced Chino to wear the pillows?
its their fault entirely. they were only forced to wear those gloves because they didnt have enough back up gloves, a fighter usually chooses at the very least thee pairs of gloves in case his opponent rejects the others. which by the way happens rather often, sick of people pretending this is some new stunt floyd came up with that nobody ever did before.
at the end of the day what really matters is the actual gloves and none of us laid our eyes on them so who knows. hell, most people around here wouldnt even know if they were fine or not if they did get a look at them.
The commission laid their eyes on them and concluded that the red ones were good ..... meaning that they were approved.
and he still arguably beat the p@ssyboy ....:notworthy
The only people who think Maidana won are on boxing forums. I still haven't found an article or the opinion of any boxer who's screaming Maidana deserved the win. All are saying Maidana fought the perfect fight but fell short. Get over it, he lost to the better man
I have used both kinds of gloves before. While it makes a difference for the comfort of the particular fighter, if you can hit, you can hit, period. Maidana didn't land clean enough that the MX gloves would have been the difference in the fight.
I agree. Thing is 8 oz. gloves are no joke no matter the brand.
Yup he did. He landed several bombs that hit Floyd's temple.
Now if it was horse hair gloves chino would have worn. Floyd won't see 12 rounds.
Watch the replay. Floyd got hammered by tomahawk punches and if Maidana wearing punchers gloves on. Floyd would have GTFO.
Floyd looked like a lost puppy in there. Dazed and confused as if he needed to find mommy.
Imagine if Chino had a chance to wear punchers gloves on. The fight would have been more brutal.
Mosley dazed him. Chop Chop Corley had him dazed too. Maybe you can even throw Judah in there because of the flash KD. But Maidana? Maidana didn't daze him in that fight. But I can side with you that Maidana had him confused lots of times.
I have used both kinds of gloves before. While it makes a difference for the comfort of the particular fighter, if you can hit, you can hit, period. Maidana didn't land clean enough that the MX gloves would have been the difference in the fight.
Yup he did. He landed several bombs that hit Floyd's temple.
Now if it was horse hair gloves chino would have worn. Floyd won't see 12 rounds.
Watch the replay. Floyd got hammered by tomahawk punches and if Maidana wearing punchers gloves on. Floyd would have GTFO.
Floyd looked like a lost puppy in there. Dazed and confused as if he needed to find mommy.
Imagine if Chino had a chance to wear punchers gloves on. The fight would have been more brutal.
you didn't think it would have made a difference but Mayweather did and have you ever box with different style gloves then you would have know it does matter first hand
I have used both kinds of gloves before. While it makes a difference for the comfort of the particular fighter, if you can hit, you can hit, period. Maidana didn't land clean enough that the MX gloves would have been the difference in the fight.
This is nothing unusual to be honest. It's just strange because it happened so close to the fight. A lot of times in the past, the A-side would CHOOSE the opponents gloves. Lennox Lewis was just saying this on Twitter, that he normally chose his opponents gloves. Anyone remember Oscar choosing Floyd's gloves at 154 lbs (even though Floyd never fought there before)?
Anyone remember another high profile example of a fighter waiting until just a day before a fight to kick up a fuss over a pair of gloves and then rejecting commision approved gloves and threatening to pull out of a fight?
to answer my own post i actually got a decent look at them in the fighthype video of floyd looking at them and they dont look fine at all. obviously its not first hand so i cant tell for sure not having actually held and wore the gloves myself but they look foul as hell.
he just barely touches it and the whole knuckle area collapses, they look thin as hell and when poked around the knuckle area there seems to be hardly nothing there.
also worth mentioning every single member of mayweathers team agreed "there is nothing there" referring to the padding. while i understand they are just that, part of HIS team. his dad never says he is right just because its floyd, if anything its the opposite. big floyd been around a long time too so he knows his stuff. floyd even had the guy who makes his gloves (i think) try them on and he said he never seen or made anything like that.
floyds team say very clearly its not the brand of the glove, its the glove itself. the padding isnt properly distributed and the place where its lacking is across the knuckles. they point out cotto wore those same everlast punchers gloves when he fought floyd and say it was nothing like the ones maidana was trying to wear.
Do you ever tire of making a complete and utter arse out of yourself, you drooling retard?