J.A Bashir : " Wilder and Fury ducked Klitschko"

]Haha, well if I was 16 years old I might enjoy going back and forth with you with insults. But I'm not, so I won't. All I hear from you is nuthugging bs that favours your favourite fighter in every context. No perspective or originality, no impartiality - because your God, Klitschko can do nothing wrong. I think it's funny you call Haye out for doing something Wlad did as well - which was to pull out of a small fight for a bigger fight. Double standards, no? :sleeping: But yet you keep coming back for more ? All you're hearing is nothing you want to hear,so you have elected the path of ignorance.their is my perspective. I was actually calling Fury out for avoiding 3 potential Klitschko fights,when he is in fact saying he has never rebuffed or turned a Klitschko fight down. Dick Tickler brought Haye into the debate,at that point your own dick leapt to attention.you wanna talk to me about gods and double standards,you're the biggest hypocrite to grace a Klitschko thread.

You're really just splitting hairs now. Fury raised his profile significantly by taking that Cunningham fight and it was directly responsible for Booth contacting their team for a possible Haye fight. So to bring the thread back full circle, he didn't "duck" anyone. He took the better options available to him. And look how far it got him ! His career really benefited didnt it.

Pot calling the kettle black springs to mind. Dirk doesn't school anybody.he has likely had the same boxing education you have had......none. History section lol,I'd just take you to the thunder dome and embarrass you some more.every thread I go in I own you. Haha, well if I was 16 years old I might enjoy going back and forth with you with insults. But I'm not, so I won't. All I hear from you is nuthugging bs that favours your favourite fighter in every context. No perspective or originality, no impartiality - because your God, Klitschko can do nothing wrong. I think it's funny you call Haye out for doing something Wlad did as well - which was to pull out of a small fight for a bigger fight. Double standards, no? :sleeping:

So you're telling me they decided to engage Fury before they officially agreed to sign to fight Charr,yet went ahead and still signed with Charr anyway ! That really makes sense doesn't it ! Please.Charr promotes himself,talks would not be exactly lengthily regarding Charr. There was a very short time between Fury defeating USS and Charr signing to face a Haye. I don't think it is unfathomable to suggest Haye had his head turned shortly after signing,then incidentally pulled the injury mid May to 'officially' begin talks with Team Fury early June.i can't remember at what point the Fury's,Booth and Mick were ringside at one of the minor Hennessey events,pre officially signing,but it was obvious at that point talks were progressively further than we would be expected to believe. You're really just splitting hairs now. Fury raised his profile significantly by taking that Cunningham fight and it was directly responsible for Booth contacting their team for a possible Haye fight. So to bring the thread back full circle, he didn't "duck" anyone. He took the better options available to him.

Ok and? I'm sure it was agreed or in talks for a while before it was officially announced. Fail. Not really the point. There's an interview with Booth where he admits as such that he saw Fury beat USS in MSG and started to make contact with their camp about a fight. So you're telling me they decided to engage Fury before they officially agreed to sign to fight Charr,yet went ahead and still signed with Charr anyway ! That really makes sense doesn't it ! Please.Charr promotes himself,talks would not be exactly lengthily regarding Charr. There was a very short time between Fury defeating USS and Charr signing to face a Haye. I don't think it is unfathomable to suggest Haye had his head turned shortly after signing,then incidentally pulled the injury mid May to 'officially' begin talks with Team Fury early June.i can't remember at what point the Fury's,Booth and Mick were ringside at one of the minor Hennessey events,pre officially signing,but it was obvious at that point talks were progressively further than we would be expected to believe.

Ok and? I'm sure it was agreed or in talks for a while before it was officially announced. Fail. Not really the point. There's an interview with Booth where he admits as such that he saw Fury beat USS in MSG and started to make contact with their camp about a fight. Why have you randomly just started ranting about Haye?? And LOL@ Haye losing to Charr. Ranting lol,you brought into this debate did you not ? I'm not going to hide my disdain for Haye.especially taking into account my admiration of Manuel Charr.

You guys are so dumb it's unreal. Mate that was weak. Seriously, you need to step up.. Pot calling the kettle black springs to mind. Right, come see me in the history section then. Lets get a competition going and see who knows more about current and past boxing. I'm sure we can get some judges. Heck, you can even team up with your buddy the goat. So now you're talking to Dirk as if he doesn't school you in all aspects of the discussion? Haha. This is like goat saying cliff rold is a troll. Dirk doesn't school anybody.he has likely had the same boxing education you have had......none. History section lol,I'd just take you to the thunder dome and embarrass you some more.every thread I go in I own you.

Fury fought USS on the twentieth of April ! Charr versus Haye was announced more than a week later.yet more drivel from your mouth. Ok and? I'm sure it was agreed or in talks for a while before it was officially announced. Fail. Not really the point. There's an interview with Booth where he admits as such that he saw Fury beat USS in MSG and started to make contact with their camp about a fight. They messed Charr around good and proper for a bigger payday,dont twist facts,just as Wlad withdrew against Del the second time to sign the Haye fight.withdrawing against Charr as they knew very well Manuel was a higher risk, lower reward. Fury was bread and butter for Haye,Charr on the other hand represented a very real threat,in a fight Haye would more than likely have lost.would Haye still be a ppv sale after a second loss in three years,doubtful.Fury certainly wasnt and isn't a ppv draw,very much the likliest reason Haye withdrew from the ppv Haye v Fury,as it most probably done worst on pre sales than expected.I suppose it all comes down to if you believe in Haye's persistent injuries,i for one don't.he has an inexcusable track record.I would have felt genuinely sorry for Fury,but he ****ed Kubrat around so I feel it was karma.poetic justicest it's best. Why have you randomly just started ranting about Haye?? And LOL@ Haye losing to Charr.

And no one should raise a complaint about him facing Cunningham at Madison Square Garden in a fight which significantly raised his profile. He specifically got the Haye fight because of the Cunningham fight. Adam Booth admitted that he contacted Team Fury immediately after that fight even though Haye was already signed to face Charr. Fury fought USS on the twentieth of April ! Charr versus Haye was announced more than a week later.yet more drivel from your mouth. They messed Charr around good and proper for a bigger payday,dont twist facts,just as Wlad withdrew against Del the second time to sign the Haye fight.withdrawing against Charr as they knew very well Manuel was a higher risk, lower reward. Fury was bread and butter for Haye,Charr on the other hand represented a very real threat,in a fight Haye would more than likely have lost.would Haye still be a ppv sale after a second loss in three years,doubtful.Fury certainly wasnt and isn't a ppv draw,very much the likliest reason Haye withdrew from the ppv Haye v Fury,as it most probably done worst on pre sales than expected.I suppose it all comes down to if you believe in Haye's persistent injuries,i for one don't.he has an inexcusable track record.I would have felt genuinely sorry for Fury,but he ****ed Kubrat around so I feel it was karma.poetic justicest it's best.

How would you rate this era of HWs?

His admission was admitted long ago.he has been a troll since he had his testicles removed,due to pressure on the prostrate,when Haye lost to Klitschko. Mate that was weak. Seriously, you need to step up.

He still withdrew to face against a final eliminator which would have put him in line to face Vitali Klitschko.instead he withdrew to face pillow fisted cruiser USS.well before he withdrew against Pulev to face Haye ! What you seem to find difficult is the notion of Fury withdrawing against big punching Mitchell in the right to face another big puncher in Vitali Klitschko,are you seeing a pattern forming here ? Nobody will raise a complaint for him withdrawing against Pulev to face Haye for the million pound he would have earned.but to ignore his previous track record and go on and say yourself Fury never ducked Wlad in Nov12 or he has no reservations to face Vitali either is hogwash.he has on three occasions had a chance not only to earn a couple of mandatory title shots,but was also offered an optional defence. Anyone who says any different is either A.ignorant B.stupid,or in your case,both. And no one should raise a complaint about him facing Cunningham at Madison Square Garden in a fight which significantly raised his profile. He specifically got the Haye fight because of the Cunningham fight. Adam Booth admitted that he contacted Team Fury immediately after that fight even though Haye was already signed to face Charr.

Regardless of where you post, everything you post is pure garbage and nobody takes you seriously except for a few of the UK homers. Even they like to keep a healthy distance from the stench of your nuthugging. Dude at least some take me seriously. You are on everyone's ignore! Haha. I fondly remember you picking Malignaggi to "embarrass" Khan in New York. It's part of your eye for boxing talent. :lol1: I wouldn't concern yourself too much with this retard.he knows absolutely nothing about boxing. Right, come see me in the history section then. Lets get a competition going and see who knows more about current and past boxing. I'm sure we can get some judges. Heck, you can even team up with your buddy the goat. You sir,are by far one the biggest special cases I have ever dealt with on this site.maybe if you didn't sit lapping up everything Steve Bunce sells,you may be considered just a half wit,as opposed to an imbecile. So now you're talking to Dirk as if he doesn't school you in all aspects of the discussion? Haha. This is like goat saying cliff rold is a troll. You guys are so dumb it's unreal.

Go in my history. I post in a ton of different threads with various different topics. I just recently started seeing you in the Kessler threads but that's about it. Just admit that you are a Klitschko troll dude. His admission was admitted long ago.he has been a troll since he had his testicles removed,due to pressure on the prostrate,when Haye lost to Klitschko.

Fury made his American debut against Cunningham at Madison Square Garden. It was the better fight He still withdrew to face against a final eliminator which would have put him in line to face Vitali Klitschko.instead he withdrew to face pillow fisted cruiser USS.well before he withdrew against Pulev to face Haye ! What you seem to find difficult is the notion of Fury withdrawing against big punching Mitchell in the right to face another big puncher in Vitali Klitschko,are you seeing a pattern forming here ? Nobody will raise a complaint for him withdrawing against Pulev to face Haye for the million pound he would have earned.but to ignore his previous track record and go on and say yourself Fury never ducked Wlad in Nov12 or he has no reservations to face Vitali either is hogwash.he has on three occasions had a chance not only to earn a couple of mandatory title shots,but was also offered an optional defence. Anyone who says any different is either A.ignorant B.stupid,or in your case,both.

One would think that if they only looked at posts in Klitschko threads. So I understand why that would be. All posters on this site can put testament to the fact that I post around in multiple threads about all fighters, unlike you and your baby bro fanboys. Go in my history. I post in a ton of different threads with various different topics. I just recently started seeing you in the Kessler threads but that's about it. Just admit that you are a Klitschko troll dude.

Mitchell Banks winner was ordered to be Fury final eliminator,before Fury withdrew,thus why Arreola,the next highest ranked guy even after having lost to Stiverne, by decision was removed from no.1 to no.5 in WBC,he faced Mitchell instead,as he had zero reservarions about wanting to compete for WBC title held by Klitschko,at the time.unlike Fury who elected to face Cunningham,rather than have to face his fears. Fury made his American debut against Cunningham at Madison Square Garden. It was the better fight

You'll have to refer to the actual fights/opponents you're talking about. Mitchell Banks winner was ordered to be Fury final eliminator,before Fury withdrew,thus why Arreola,the next highest ranked guy even after having lost to Stiverne, by decision was removed from no.1 to no.5 in WBC,he faced Mitchell instead,as he had zero reservarions about wanting to compete for WBC title held by Klitschko,at the time.unlike Fury who elected to face Cunningham,rather than have to face his fears. He signed to fight Chisora before seeing him face-to-face obviously. Wlad didn't see the fear and resignation that he usually sees in his opponents and neither did Emmanuel. So here you are trying to tell me every Klitschjo opponent before Chisora and thereafter is afraid before they get in a ring with him ? You sir,are by far one the biggest special cases I have ever dealt with on this site.maybe if you didn't sit lapping up everything Steve Bunce sells,you may be considered just a half wit,as opposed to an imbecile.

Why did Fury withdraw from WBC final eliminator to participate in IBF semi eliminator,if no intentions of following through to face Pulev ? To avoid Vitali maybe,you think ? You'll have to refer to the actual fights/opponents you're talking about. Oh please,you really believe Steward would allow Klitschjo to sign to face Chisora if he had concerns about Wladimir's underwear during pressers ? This has to be most absurd thing I ever heard. He signed to fight Chisora before seeing him face-to-face obviously. Wlad didn't see the fear and resignation that he usually sees in his opponents and neither did Emmanuel.

It's hard to blame Fury being that he is British and has watched all of his countrymen win world titles by ducking tough fights and taking the path of least resistance. David Haye talked himself into a title shot without beating a Top-10 heavy, then talked his way into a Klitschko fight without beating a Top-10 heavy. Audley Harrison got a world title shot for taking part in Prizefighter, which is the most pathetic thing I've witnessed in boxing in my lifetime. Nathan Cleverly called himself a world champ at 175 even though he wasn't a Top-10 fighter at his weight because he stuck to beating on domestic bums until a Vacant WBO belt came along. Why should Fury earn his title shots by fighting for them when he can just follow in the footsteps of Haye and Harrison? Excellent post. Prizefighter is an awful tournament,used to showcase some good talented UK upcoming prospects not participating,usually between the semi and final fight. The last time I watched it,I believe it was Rogan vs Harrison,a completely gassed version of Rogan,as he had already competed for three rounds previous ! David Haye fans were likely overjoyed Harrison emerged triumphant.I should imagine they found some moral justification for Haye facing Harrison. The standard of boxing in that tournament is shockingly disturbing. Regardless of where you post, everything you post is pure garbage and nobody takes you seriously except for a few of the UK homers. Even they like to keep a healthy distance from the stench of your nuthugging. I wouldn't concern yourself too much with this retard.he knows absolutely nothing about boxing.