Chris Mannix (SI): Pacquiao-Bradley Gets 775-800K Buys

I'm surprised it even did that. Pacquiao lost some luster after the Marquez fight. It looks like he is gaining back some of the buyers again. You have to remember that about 2/3rds of PPV buyers are Casual Fair Weather Fans. It takes a lot of work to keep them interested.

Ruslan fight could be bigger if they let ruslan grow on HBO. Don't rematch bradley, that'll derail provo

PAC vs Marquez is a guaranteed million...... PAV vs Ruslan would do 800K to 900K depending on how greedy bob promotes it.

Unofficial numbers. If Manny continues to take the less aggressive fighter approach in his next fights, his numbers will likely be about the same or lower. Looking like his best option is Pac vs Marquez 5. But how will that do? .

You want to know what is the most telling portion of the article? "HBO, which produced and distributed the pay per view, declined comment." and "according to multiple sources" The only times a network will decline comment is if the numbers being stated are incorrect. They aren't allowed to release the numbers. They can only confirm when their client releases them first. When they decline comment; the numbers aren't correct. Bob waited so long to inflate the f--- out these numbers. These aren't official. Im gonna wait for Dan Rafael to correct them like he did for the Rios fight. Bob tries to inflate numbers to increase leverage. Realistically, this fight did around 500k to 650k Nothing better. Wait for it. It'll come. We'll see if they're changed. Kevin Iole was going with similar numbers (800,000-to-825,000) to these a couple weeks ago.

that didn't need to post abortion pics to promote the fight :headbang: You are just on fire these past few days

Those are decent numbers.

You want to know what is the most telling portion of the article? "HBO, which produced and distributed the pay per view, declined comment." and "according to multiple sources" The only times a network will decline comment is if the numbers being stated are incorrect. They aren't allowed to release the numbers. They can only confirm when their client releases them first. When they decline comment; the numbers aren't correct. Bob waited so long to inflate the f--- out these numbers. These aren't official. Im gonna wait for Dan Rafael to correct them like he did for the Rios fight. Bob tries to inflate numbers to increase leverage. Realistically, this fight did around 500k to 650k Nothing better. Wait for it. It'll come. i don't think these are official numbers either but i predicted 700k so i wasn't too far off, though it wouldn't surprise me if the numbers were inflated by arum......he's known for that.

Doubt it. You want to know what is the most telling portion of the article? "HBO, which produced and distributed the pay per view, declined comment." and "according to multiple sources" The only times a network will decline comment is if the numbers being stated are incorrect. They aren't allowed to release the numbers. They can only confirm when their client releases them first. When they decline comment; the numbers aren't correct. Bob waited so long to inflate the f--- out these numbers. These aren't official. Im gonna wait for Dan Rafael to correct them like he did for the Rios fight. Bob tries to inflate numbers to increase leverage. Realistically, this fight did around 500k to 650k Nothing better. Wait for it. It'll come.

800k is pretty much wat Pac can generate by himself. He did similar numbers with clottey who also has 0 fanbase. With any decent B side pac hits 1mil easy. why didn't he do it for the rios fight then? lets not act like bradley is some no namer bum coming off a lost.

If anything, it shows that there is a hit when hosting a PPV overseas nope.....all it shows is that bradley was the better fighter than bum bum rios and people are more likely to buy a fight that's intriguing or competitive on paper than a piss poor mismatch.

Pacman is popular, but not as controversial and outspoken a figure as Mayweather. Pacman has lost, Mayweather has not. Mayweather may naturally have an edge in PPV interest because people want to see him lose or marvel at his ability to win on his terms. He also plays to the American audience with his antics, sound bytes, etc. He knows what he's doing to promote himself and the people around him know how to promote him. Pacman is quieter, humble, etc. He doesn't play that character. It takes someone like an old Bob to hype him up as his dangerous buzz saw that he was years and years ago. However Pacman doesn't pay that off in his own words in front of the camera. He is very reserved and simply states that he's just there to do his job. Pacman isn't a promoter the way Mayweather is. Pacman has lost, Mayweather has not. Mayweather will most likely have the better numbers because of that. However 800k+ vs Bradley isn't exactly a bad thing. But compared to Mayweather's 900k-2.0k+ range, it will always seem like a flop. They need each other.

I will never understand why people actually want the PPV model to be the norm.

Pac needs a ko to get that hype. Plus losing to Marquez and fighting in China took hype away from theuUS China in 5 years may be where the money is at, but not now Are you sure about that? Everyone involved with the Macau card seemed pleased with the financial returns, to the point that TR is holding another card there with Nonito and they're already talking about potentially going back with Manny as soon as this fall. I know Koncz is not the most reliable source but he said that with the way that the financial structure is set up in China (not to mention the better tax situation) that they weren't overly reliant on the US PPV buys. Plus they knew going in that overseas cards Historically are 30%+ lower than usual.

Which is basically what Floyd can generate himself (as proven v Guerrero). If Floyd was fighting tim, that would have been a 1 mil ppv. That's the honest truth of it.

good numbers IMHO (clotteyesque) and No one outside Mayweather fighting Tim could pull off such PPV numbers....

800k is pretty much wat Pac can generate by himself. He did similar numbers with clottey who also has 0 fanbase. With any decent B side pac hits 1mil easy. Which is basically what Floyd can generate himself (as proven v Guerrero).

Good for boxing. It was worth the money. Let's hope Maidana doesn't disappoint those people who will pay to see him fight Floyd, despite the odds being a one-sided, boring fight.

Not too shabby. I was expecting it to be bigger than the first fight tbh. The promotion was really good, despite Pac losing a little shine in recent years. Undercard damn sure didn't help.

800k is pretty much wat Pac can generate by himself. He did similar numbers with clottey who also has 0 fanbase. With any decent B side pac hits 1mil easy.