boxing = hand combat...why is back hand, slapping, hammer punches illegal?..

because it would be fuking retarded, it's the ultimate gentleman sport, not a retard sport where people flail there hands every which way like dipshts(although sadly there are someone people e.g malignaggi, that make us look bad) next we'll have everyone doing spinning backhands, then superman punches... uhh, what a nightmare

Boxing is not just general hand combat, there are specific rules dating back to the Marquess of Queensberry. But some fighters get away with borderline back hands when they flick the jab, Hearns did it.

Boxing should allow the spinning backfist punch at least. As a Jeet Kune Do/Kali/escrima practitioner and now as a Tai Chi Chuan instructor I am both a fan of "western boxing" and the Eastern Martial Arts. They are both different 'languages' if you will and specialized arts. 'Western Boxing' as we know it were largely from the British Boxing but also influenced by Filipino blade boxing in the turn of the 19th Century when the Americans took Philippines as part of the American Commonwealth while encountering the Filipino native 'escrimadors'. Thus Filipino Blade boxing has many components eerily similar to 'western boxing' not just by coincidence but by the way how our body moves and in conjunction with the blades. Moves that incorporates back hands, bolo punches (different from Filipino version), hammer fists, vertical fist, clawing, ripping and etc. are all part of the arsenal of the Filipino Martial Arts that were the cousins or transcended martial arts from the Chinese/Indonesian/Malaysian Kuntao,Silat and Kung Fu during the Majapahit Empire of the Pre-Spanish era (Philippines was colonized by Spain by around 1521). These moves requires specific bio-mechanics similar to 'western boxing' but more. But the 'western boxing's punches also are very specialized movements inorder to facilitate the ballistics of pugilism. It is a 'point' or 'stabbing' feature of the Filipino Martial Arts that they have similarities with ***8211;*meaning, the usage of the tips of any hand weapons that is akin to the movements of the 'western boxing's body mechanics inorder to facilitate it. To those people who are not familiar with the Filipino Martial Arts or Chinese Kung Fu, Backhands CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE and CAN BE BRUTAL likewise. Obviously those are different 'languages' if you will and not included in the rules of 'western boxing'. But from a pugilistic and martial arts' point of view, they can be integrated. Would I agree with it? NO. I like the 'western boxing' as is. It is a great sport and will continue to mature into this codified form of combat punching. Leave it as be.

Boxing should allow the spinning backfist punch at least.

Well the way gloves are designed... Imagine Wladimir hammer fisting some dude on the top of the head? Or guys lacing everytime they take a swipe with an open gand? Also less padding there and higher chance of injury. The traditional backhand (like a pimp hand) just doesnt belong. Think of the clinch initiation, hook, backhand smash into the neck grab. It doesnt belong in the sport its unsightly.

Boxing is about punching. It's a sport, not a street fight. Slapping, hammer-fisting isn't punching. There you have it. Great post, short, to the point, no bs. Green k sent.

Idiots. You wanna change things in boxing. Smh , this isnt it. Change to same day weigh ins Change to where no fighters choose the others gloves Change to two mandatory title defenses minimum per year or be stripped Change to no clinching or holding Punch delivery. Leave it alone.

Yeah I remember that... I think that punch should be legal.. It's boxing, I don't see what the big deal about that punch is Well its a horrible punch in reality, you leave yourself totally open and you will mostly be generating power from your arms.

Boxing does not mean 'hand combat', boxing means boxing. And within the rules of boxing, there are set definitions of what constitutes a legal punch. A strike with an open glove, the back of the hand, or the side of the hand is not regarded as legal. The key point is that boxing is a sport and not unrestricted 'hand combat' as you suggest. And in any sport, the rules are constructed in a manner that places emphasis on what people regard as the primary skills of the sport. Letting people do stuff that undermines the value of those skills in a contest only undermines the sport as a whole. Queensbury nonsense from the 19th century.

Pac did a similar thing to Clottey and was also warned. Yeah I remember that... I think that punch should be legal.. It's boxing, I don't see what the big deal about that punch is

I think any form of punch, either backhand or hammer should be legal.. Open gloves shouldn't be allowed.. Does anyone remember Samuel Peter getting frustrated by toney and throwing an "ear clap" punch with both hands at James.. The ref warned him and I'm like wtf, that should be legal IMO Pac did a similar thing to Clottey and was also warned.

I think any form of punch, either backhand or hammer should be legal.. Open gloves shouldn't be allowed.. Does anyone remember Samuel Peter getting frustrated by toney and throwing an "ear clap" punch with both hands at James.. The ref warned him and I'm like wtf, that should be legal IMO

;14488051']Even if you could hammer fisting is only effective if your mounting your opponent, backhanding is only effective if you spin. In boxing you must stay on your feet and you must face your opponent at all times. Oh contrare, hammer fists are an effective hit, in a fight for you life you can use it to hit the sides near kidneys, if your in a grapple to break knees, to the collar bone, to the ears, and deadly move is to the side of the neck on the corradid artery IT WILL KILL! Those moves can be used in a street or fight for your life all from an upright stance Sourcess: my dad 16 year marine vet, going on 8 years in the af that he learned in Marine Corps mma, oohrah

Just when I thought someone couldn't possibly be more retarded, boom

Personally I don't see the backhand as being effective, the hammerfist is only going to be used from a mounted position like in MMA. Both bear significant chance of injuring your hand. That said I don't think the back hand should be illegal because I don't see any extra risk to your opponent and alot of guys hit with backhands by mistake when throwing unorthodox jabs. It wouldn't change the game because its a useless strike and it would cut down on unneeded penalty calls. Hearns is a good example, that flicker jab had to hit a couple of people with the back hand every now and then but it was probably too fast for the ref to tell. And if the backhand was legal then forearm smashes and elbows would harder to call. Miss with a right - now backhand your opponent's head (oops ... was that my forearm? ... my bad). In boxing you strike and remove your arm/glove; there is no grabbing (hear that Klitschko), pawing, holding, forearm hits, elbows, etc...

Personally I don't see the backhand as being effective, the hammerfist is only going to be used from a mounted position like in MMA. Both bear significant chance of injuring your hand. That said I don't think the back hand should be illegal because I don't see any extra risk to your opponent and alot of guys hit with backhands by mistake when throwing unorthodox jabs. It wouldn't change the game because its a useless strike and it would cut down on unneeded penalty calls. Hearns is a good example, that flicker jab had to hit a couple of people with the back hand every now and then but it was probably too fast for the ref to tell.

is there an official rule that states slapping, back hand or hammer punching is illegal? cause calzaghe slapped his entire career and it was never an issue with the refs. You're an idiot... I take it the entire point of your post was to come out with that comment on Calzaghe!? :You_Rock_

go to 5:54 and you will see hamed get warned for a back hander. Your right most people don't know shyt about boxing like 99% on this site

I would venture a guess that the rules don't allow open glove punching due to the interior lacing and associated risk of severe (if not permanent) eye injury. I would also venture a guess that the rules don't allow backhands because they look feminine and retarded. Open palm allows one to grab, to poke and backhands are very effective. If I miss with a right and then backhand you and follow with a left hook while my open right hand is covering your eyes and holding your head you would think it's pretty effective as well. I just resaw the Lennox Lewis - Michael Grant fight. Take a look at the effect of a LL uppercut combined with him holding down Grant's head - that greatly increased the effect of the punch.

How bout Pac's double hooked punch against Clottey? Is that only forbidden in Texas?