Which heavyweight challenger was worse?

Im not reaching for anything,, If you think leipai, Wach, and pineata, are legit contenders than more power to you... Its reaching to think those guys were the best available.. Where have I stated they are legit contenders ? Who else was available Chico ? Wach was the third option after Arreola dropped out,then subsequently Fury. Leapai was a mandated fight ! Pianeta a tune up,also a good sell in Germany.he was well respected and well thought of after defeating McCall and Botha,faded guys,but household names to German fight fans.I don't remember anybody else shouting for that fight bar David Haye,and we all know he cries about toe,instead of coming to fight. Wlad intended to fight three times last year,Ryabinsky would not budge the Povetkin fight from October to September though.I have no problem with him fighting a couple of mandatory challengers and the odd softer opponent to bulk up the numbers on his résumé,in pursuit of Joe Louis's record haul of defences.I suggest if this bothers and concerns you,find another to sport to solace in.Wladimir isn't going anywhere,he is here to stay.

You nostalgics stop thinking that guys like Liston and Foreman had skills. Klitschko would do those bums like he did Leapai the other day. Wake the fuck up. Comparing Foreman and Liston to Leapai. Just leave, now.

Frazier Foreman Liston Patterson Norton Foster Archie Moore (past Moore's prime) Larry Holmes (past his prime) Majority of them universally recognized world champions, now don't even try and compare Eddie Chambers, Haye, and Povetkin to that list. Well to be brutally honest, Haye would probably knock out most of those guys with his speed, athleticism and power. :wtf1: Haye knocking out not only Frazier and Moore, but Liston and Foreman? :crackhead

Arreola and Fury were offered Nov 2012 before Wach,instead Wlad elected to stay busy even though both rebuffed.Pulev didn't face Thompson in final eliminator until Aug last year,WBA and WBO mandatories were due before his next IBF mandatory ! Chisora has been on a losing streak until 2013 ! He is as much as a bum as Leapai,Wach and Pianeta.buzzed by the likes of Pala and Gerber,YES Edmund GERBER ! The same Gerber that lost to Michael Sprott ! Keep reaching :bottle: Im not reaching for anything,, If you think leipai, Wach, and pineata, are legit contenders than more power to you... Its reaching to think those guys were the best available..

All 3 were bad, considering there are guys like arreola, stiverne, fury, chisora, pulev available to fight..... Pineata was probably the worst, just because he didnt earn it, though he is probably a better fighter than Leipai McCormick is still the worst for the Wlad reign Arreola and Fury were offered Nov 2012 before Wach,instead Wlad elected to stay busy even though both rebuffed.Pulev didn't face Thompson in final eliminator until Aug last year,WBA and WBO mandatories were due before his next IBF mandatory ! Chisora has been on a losing streak until 2013 ! He is as much as a bum as Leapai,Wach and Pianeta.buzzed by the likes of Pala and Gerber,YES Edmund GERBER ! The same Gerber that lost to Michael Sprott ! Keep reaching :bottle:

Well to be brutally honest, Haye would probably knock out most of those guys with his speed, athleticism and power. Larry Holmes as I told you previouisly is the only A level guy from a skill point of view, and he whooped the ageing Ali. Patterson was skilled but a goddamn midget by hw standards. Haye wouldnt knock any of those guys out.... Maybe way past it patterson or moore, but no way haye is gonna ko foreman, frazier, norton, etc

You nostalgics stop thinking that guys like Liston and Foreman had skills. Klitschko would do those bums like he did Leapai the other day. Wake the fuck up. i dont think its fair to say that. wlad had has trouble with every good fighter he has fought. he has never looked good or had great preformances against good fighters

You nostalgics stop thinking that guys like Liston and Foreman had skills. Klitschko would do those bums like he did Leapai the other day. Wake the fuck up.

Frazier Foreman Liston Patterson Norton Foster Archie Moore (past Moore's prime) Larry Holmes (past his prime) Majority of them universally recognized world champions, now don't even try and compare Eddie Chambers, Haye, and Povetkin to that list. Well to be brutally honest, Haye would probably knock out most of those guys with his speed, athleticism and power. Larry Holmes as I told you previouisly is the only A level guy from a skill point of view, and he whooped the ageing Ali. Patterson was skilled but a goddamn midget by hw standards.

In Ali's times heavyweight was defined as 176+ lbs which is lighter than today's female heavyweight division. LOL.

All 3 were bad, considering there are guys like arreola, stiverne, fury, chisora, pulev available to fight..... Pineata was probably the worst, just because he didnt earn it, though he is probably a better fighter than Leipai McCormick is still the worst for the Wlad reign

What A level fighters did Ali fight? Frazier Foreman Liston Patterson Norton Foster Archie Moore (past Moore's prime) Larry Holmes (past his prime) Majority of them universally recognized world champions, now don't even try and compare Eddie Chambers, Haye, and Povetkin to that list.

You consider those A level? Those are B at best. What A level fighters did Ali fight?

Wlad hasn't fought an A level fighter his whole career. Several, Chris Byrd Povetkin Chagaev Ibragimov Haye Chambers ,, and more..

LacedUp is still butt hurt over daveys poor performance vs Wlad. Thats why he keeps making anti Klitschko threads.

What's more important - giving the fans good fights, especially on the back of a string of crap fight, or holding on to a belt nobody cares about? He gives the fans the biggest fights available...his MANDATARORIES you nitwit. On the back of a crap fight he gave his fans an education and conclusive one sided beat down of a mandated challenger. He holds onto the belts as he wants to be the first heavyweight to successfully unify all four major belts,even the IBO belt in years to come could be universally recognised.in the future when is career is all said and done,he will have aligned all belts included that one too ! Does it bother you he holds these belts ? you keep going on and on about him defending against Leapai and the most admireable thing to do would be drop them.the way I see it though is he will be admired and recognised more so having held onto and defended these belts a record haul of times,when he undoubtedly adventually surpasses Joe Louis's current record of defences. To me it is more important he retains these belts.he himself has stated his intentions to align the WBC along with the current host of belts he has procured.:bottle:

Three solid opponents, Wlad just make it look too easy in there. As if your heroes of the past fought A level fighters every day of the week. Pfffftt..... What made them solid? They absolutely did not. But they didn't fight 4 unranked opponents in the space of 2 years.

Three solid opponents, Wlad just make it look too easy in there. As if your heroes of the past fought A level fighters every day of the week. Pfffftt.....

I voted Leapai, but Pianeta was awful, too. Wach was interesting, stylistically. It would have probably been more interesting if I had chosen Mormeck as opposed to Wach. I agree that it was interesting to watch Wlad fight a taller fighter. But Wach really didn't bring anything to the table that night.

Worst ? probably Leapai but I voted Pianeta as Leapai was a mandatory.yet Pianeta was a good sell on home territory,he was a well repsected name I Germany.Wlad rather than sit idle,elected to stay busy. The same people ridiculing Wlad for facing Mormeck,Wach,Leapai etc are the same guys who laughed and baulked at him having to defend against Thompson.now Thompson has beat the British oaf twice all of a sudden he isnt a bum ! double sandards no ? Folk on here would have you belive Wlad should vacate.it is only butthurt due to the fact he retains all these belts why they want him to drop them.simply they cant bare to witness what will undoubtedly be the a record setting haul of defences which will ultimately surpass the great Joe Louis.in time Wladimir will be bestowed the same tile 'great'. Wach was a late replacement for Arreola if I recall correctly,the fight was also offered to Fury too,which we know he rebuffed for some unbeknown reason. I was not one of them. Thompson has always been a good fighter. just had issues getting good fights. there was not many lining up to fight him earlier in his career. 6'5 southpaw with some skill. he had to bide his time to get his title shots. his second was given 2 him because chambers pulled out twice from their final eliminator. I picked him to beat price both times but I picked him to lose to both pulev & solis. never thought he had enough left to beat the Cuban. i'm picking carlos takam to beat him too but I won't count the old warhorse out. losing to wlad a 2nd time did wonders for his career & bank account.