Teddy Atlas on First Take

According to all the pac worshippers: smith = doesn't know sh*t about boxing, skip = word is like the gospel. I can't believe they still talk about this topic on the show. And I can't believe that it still generates this much discussion on nsb. Damn, y'all a bunch of broken fkn records on here

Didn't he have an "inside source" within Pacquiao's camp that told him Pac was on the juice? But now it's "I have no proof, but I know he was on the juice." No proof up to now. that can be a cause for libel. Unprofessional to instigate something without proof in the professional world. He could get sued. The guy is a nut case. He probably lost so much money in betting against Pac all these years. You know who else climb divisions, Floyd Teddy. And Floyd is even heavier than Pac now.

The question here is. Why doesn't Floyd want to fight an easy fight for all the money in the world. So by your logic Floyd lovers he took roids now he doesn't. He looks weaker, so in that premise (not that I agree) then it should be an easy fight for Floyd if he fights Pac. They are the most popular boxers in the sport. The most loved. So ask yourself this Floyd lovers why not fight Pac? Suppose to be an easy fight. Easy money right? Checkmate.

;14486406'] Didn't he have an "inside source" within Pacquiao's camp that told him Pac was on the juice? But now it's "I have no proof, but I know he was on the juice."

one of the biggest fights in the history of the sport...blood testing makes you weak... Manny just didn't want it too close to the fight as he had a bad experience when he fought Morales. :lol1: Yes, we all know that Manny is full of different excuses as to why he didn't want to take the tests. Don't forget Arum saying that he was afraid of needles too. With sh*t like this is it any wonder that people are suspicious of him? well don't you kind of do? for floyd, the extra testing program begins once you sign the contract and it ends soon after the fight. only time when it's completely random is when you commit yourself to being tested all year round for every year until you retire. Pacquiao wouldn't even agree to the short term testing that Floyd wanted from him. Do you really think that he would have agreed to year round testing? Lol Not in a million years.

"He would get his biggest purse fighting Pacquiao but why would he need to fight Pacquiao with all the money he has right now?" The family has too many excuses and reasons to not fight Pac. He goes on saying we have a reason before that's why we didn't fight him. Now he fell face flat on his face. So what if he fell flat on his face? It's the money fight. Isn't it more ripe for the picking now? Suppose to be an easy fight for Floyd. As you love harping it senior. So why not fight an easier version of Pac for all the money in the world. ( that can break records in ppv) and your son is called money? Only a man with no common sense won't see this as a clear duck. Fear of a midget until now.. Jeez pathetic.

LMAO @ Snr. admitting to ducking Pacquiao...:lol1: 4:24 Lol snr squirming on justifying why it's not necessary to fight Pac. His reason was his son can make money even if he doesn't fight him. He's saying why fight Pac when there are easy fights out there lol This closes the book on this fight. Snr. Don't want to take the risk, Floyd doesn't. Only way this will happen is if showtime pushes Floyd against the wall and say we ain't earning jack Floyd. You have to fight Pac. But his answer will probably be, ' in that case I'm leaving showtime.' It's over the family of ducks don't want none of Pac even if its the fight boxing wants, and even if its the money fight to break records. Clear as day who's ducking.

LMAO @ Snr. admitting to ducking Pacquiao...:lol1: 4:24 "He would get his biggest purse fighting Pacquiao but why would he need to fight Pacquiao with all the money he has right now?"

If Teddy took his words seriously when he said he'll bet his house Pac will lose the Bradley fight 2. Then he must be really broke by now. No wonder he hates Pac so much. He has been predicting Pac fights for over a decade, and every time he bets against him. He must have lost so much on Pac fights.

LMAO @ Snr. admitting to ducking Pacquiao...:lol1: 4:24

Not a fan of Manny at all; but Teddy goes out his way to hate on him and pick wrong against all the time.

and it took Manny 4 years to be tested. Do you think he would have been caught had he tested when asked? If Floyd got tested for Xylocaine or some other hand-numbing drug that he uses so he can get an advantage that he would otherwise not have, you think that he would test positive?

and it took Manny 4 years to be tested. Do you think he would have been caught had he tested when asked? No because I doubt anyone is stupid enough to PED up knowing you're on a microscope. I don't know, because that's a hypothetical question, but FACTS are: Mayweather was okay for Mosley and Brandon Rios to cheat against Pacquiao...:lol1: It's just crazy to me how they're singling out one guy when you've got people popping up AND THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING ON THEIR PROMOTIONAL BANNER...I'm just saying.

Y'know if people really cared about the sport, they would've made a big issue about Morales coming up HOT versus Danny Garcia, specially Schaeffer, but that's not what its about. Mickey Bey and J'Leon Love are still on Mayweather Promotions FFS.

Lol I thought it was the trunks and the gloves and the socks in the Morales fight? You thought wrong.

It would have been random blood testing up to the cut-off date chosen and urine would have been with no cut-off date. Manny just didn't want it too close to the fight as he had a bad experience when he fought Morales. Is it that hard to understand? The point is that if hypothetically he planned to still use PEDs then he wouldn't even have accepted any extra testing for one as they would have been on him like a hawk. Secondly, these are extra tests. Not the golden rule. Not OST. They were winging it because true OST testing is all year round. So they negotiated and it went bad with one side accusing the other and getting sued. Lol I thought it was the trunks and the gloves and the socks in the Morales fight?

At least people are still talking about Pacquiao, that means he's still relevant and that people still want to see him fight. It would be worse if they're no longer talking about him. TBH I miss that "old" Pacquiao whether he was or he wasn't on PEDs...lol. I miss the FEAR in Snr. Now, they talk about Pacquiao like he's an average Joe. I know this has been argued for awhile now, but I don't see it. http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx99/diverdown06/Picture10.png http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8730/oscarpac.jpg http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx99/diverdown06/Picture2.png http://rs745.pbsrc.com/albums/xx99/diverdown06/Picture9.png~c100

You are so dense. Why did Pacquiao even want a cutoff date? Random means random, you aren't supposed to know when the testers will come by or when they will stop. It would have been random blood testing up to the cut-off date chosen and urine would have been with no cut-off date. Manny just didn't want it too close to the fight as he had a bad experience when he fought Morales. Is it that hard to understand? The point is that if hypothetically he planned to still use PEDs then he wouldn't even have accepted any extra testing for one as they would have been on him like a hawk. Secondly, these are extra tests. Not the golden rule. Not OST. They were winging it because true OST testing is all year round. So they negotiated and it went bad with one side accusing the other and getting sued.

You are so dense. Why did Pacquiao even want a cutoff date? Random means random, you aren't supposed to know when the testers will come by or when they will stop. one of the biggest fights in the history of the sport...blood testing makes you weak... try acting like a man for a day see how much better you feel..

You guys are so dense! Floyd has his fans and Teddy wrapped around his finger. From DAY #1, Manny agreed to more stringent PEDs testing that went further than the commission rules. They negotiated and were off by 10 days on the cut-off date. You are so dense. Why did Pacquiao even want a cutoff date? Random means random, you aren't supposed to know when the testers will come by or when they will stop.