Wladimir Klitschko transformed heavyweight boxing. His jab, footwork, defense and offense are all immaculate and incomparable. No style works against him.
He proved uppercuts, combos, feinting, swarming etc to be near-worthless (in the case of his opponents) and unnecessary (in the case of himself). Thus by his perfect minimalistic-seeming technique he actually shows how bad previous generations of boxers were who could win with such techniques like feinting and combos.
Wladimir is the blueprint for what strategies work (in his case) and don't work (in his opponents' case). Wladimir Klitschko is the measuring stick for champions of the past and future.
Hey Wladimir's a dominant champ. Better than the HW division resembling the CW division. I just wish he was proactive on the drug testing front. Instead, he seems resistant to it.
I find it astonishing that people choose to issue false allegations operating purely on the basis that “there’s no smoke without fire”, which merely demonstrates their own ignorance coupled with a distinct lack of intellect!
• It is categorically impossible to correlate the actions of Vitali Klitschko and his brother in 1996. They are two independently-minded individuals that are responsible for their own choices in life.
• Vitali Klitschko took steroids to heal a leg injury and his doctor didn’t check the banned substance list, which cost him a place in the Olympic Games. This is not a secret… in fact Vitali wrote about this issue in his autobiography.
• Vitali Klitschko failed the drug test in 1996, which is more than 18 years ago… he has been routinely tested for PED’s during his professional career and never failed a single test since.
• Wladimir Klitschko has never failed a drug test.
• Wladimir Klitschko is routinely tested for PED’s for each and every single one of his contests by the German Boxing Federation (BDB), which was the same organisation that banned Mariusz Wach & Sam Soliman.
• Wladimir Klitschko doesn’t seem to do anything physically remarkable to justify any alleged PED use.
• Wladimir should not be accused of being guilty based on his association to his brother.
• In terms of drug testing protocols, Wladimir Klitschko is under no obligation to do anything more than follow the rules of his sport, which he clearly adheres to.
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Hey Wladimir's a dominant champ. Better than the HW division resembling the CW division. I just wish he was proactive on the drug testing front. Instead, he seems resistant to it.
WK has used drugs..
There's no doubt about that..
WK's opponents have used drugs...
There's mostly no doubt about that either..
The year is 2014.
Most elite athletes of other athletic but more forgiving sports have used drugs, boxing is probably the MOST unforgiving sport of ALL (kickboxing is weak compared to real boxing and UFC not really the same level of professional sport). Therefore it's obvious the pressure and motivation to use is highest.
Despite that it's foolish to claim that WK's greatness is based on steroids... He for instance could beat Pulev with or without with similar predictive outcome. He CANNOT POSIBBLY be on them all the time because he'd be busted!
The funny thing is is that I am almost a mirror of Ali in image. When I was 26, I was fighting and in the best shape of my whole gym. I was not the best boxer, but I was the most physically immaculate, I could run fast forever and train all session harder than anybody else. I am 6'2" (just an inch shorter than Ali) but stronger and bigger (I did lift weights and took a single course of roids just once) and weighed 95kilos (210lbs) solid. Now I weigh 105kg (230lbs) but 10lbs (5kg) is fat. I have some BF sure but not bad for a 33y.o with a missus, house, job and baby and studying I must say.
Laced Up has no idea what life is even about yet.. Or boxing! He is indoctrinated by his peers.
I even BOX like him. I was taller than my opponents and very fast. Hit them before they could hit me and move away. Against more powerful boxers I was in trouble.
So when I speak with authority I also back it up with my own experience.
I'm not getting into a dick swinging contest with you.
Picture or die.
You are a very angry man on the inside. That's not good for your heart. I don't root for race. I root for nationality. I support all my white, black, hispanic, and Asian brothers and sisters as long as they fly the stars and stripes of glory above them.
But please stop being so angry, it's bad for the heart.
Hahaha, so you blatantly label nationalism as your reason for your support LOL.
You know we're a bit "uneasy" suggesting it. But I am sure my friends feels similarly when we feel most of the hate/bias comes from 4 things..
Racism, NATIONALISM, Nostalgism, Indoctrination.
This already gets every modern HW off the hook (with a few exceptions).
And gets Vitali Klitschko off the hook (his fights were very exciting)
These reasons EXHAUST almost every other excuse against any reasonable argument except..
"I find WK's fight's boring"..
To which I can understand. I still find them interesting and not altogether boring but I can understand that...
Quote me where i get butthurt.
I've simply maintained that there's no logical reason behind saying Wlad is the goat or would beat anyone in history as he's probably lost to the best guy he's faced and got KTFO on multiple occasions.
The funny thing is is that I am almost a mirror of Ali in image. When I was 26, I was fighting and in the best shape of my whole gym. I was not the best boxer, but I was the most physically immaculate, I could run fast forever and train all session harder than anybody else. I am 6'2" (just an inch shorter than Ali) but stronger and bigger (I did lift weights and took a single course of roids just once) and weighed 95kilos (210lbs) solid. Now I weigh 105kg (230lbs) but 10lbs (5kg) is fat. I have some BF sure but not bad for a 33y.o with a missus, house, job and baby and studying I must say.
Laced Up has no idea what life is even about yet.. Or boxing! He is indoctrinated by his peers.
I even BOX like him. I was taller than my opponents and very fast. Hit them before they could hit me and move away. Against more powerful boxers I was in trouble.
So when I speak with authority I also back it up with my own experience.
Remember when Tyson was destroyed by Lewis how did that make you feel lol.
look at this guys posting he is a blatant race favouring twat he only roots for people who are black, worst type of boxing 'fan'
I've never heard you or W break out the B-bomb yet blatantly. We know our gay mate Laced is white, but I'd venture MANY of the non-supporters are of opposite colour.
And personally I think we all bleed the same and I support black boxers too. But I don't hear too much complaining elsewhere.
I've got a mate who thinks objectionable things like him, we argue often. But he's got a missus, by the look of that guys picture, that ain't possible LOL ;)
Haha. I didn't see your picture.
This thread is about Wladimir Klitschko not about you trying to turn a straight man :greddy2:
I've got a mate who thinks objectionable things like him, we argue often. But he's got a missus, by the look of that guys picture, that ain't possible LOL ;)
So....... if that's all it is, why get butt hurt and compare physiques and boxing ability with those who do not agree with you on a forum. I don't claim to be the most composed or rational person in the world but that's weak and immature. I don't know anyones history on here but it should be just a civil discussion really. Were not going to change anyones minds here ultimately.
Quote me where i get butthurt.
I've simply maintained that there's no logical reason behind saying Wlad is the goat or would beat anyone in history as he's probably lost to the best guy he's faced and got KTFO on multiple occasions.
Some of my German sources are telling me that they suspect Wladimir is refusing random blood testing for the Pulev fight because he is taking performance enhancing drugs. They were not clear on whether it was anabolic steroids or synthetic testosterone though.
Hopefully Wlad accepts the random blood testing for the betterment of the sport.
Remember when Tyson was destroyed by Lewis how did that make you feel lol.
look at this guys posting he is a blatant race favouring twat he only roots for people who are black, worst type of boxing 'fan'
Some of my German sources are telling me that they suspect Wladimir is refusing random blood testing for the Pulev fight because he is taking performance enhancing drugs. They were not clear on whether it was anabolic steroids or synthetic testosterone though.
Hopefully Wlad accepts the random blood testing for the betterment of the sport.
LOL, GTFO troll alt.
Some of my German sources are telling me that they suspect Wladimir is refusing random blood testing for the Pulev because he is taking performance enhancing drugs. They were not clear on whether it was anabolic steroids or synthetic testosterone though.
Hopefully Wlad accepts the random blood testing for the betterment of the sport.
I don't think WK is silly enough to get busted using PED's, as if his career has been reliant on them anyway.
He is. I heard that during the fight and was like WTF? It can't get any more serious than this. Wlad fights trash for a living.
He was still also a #1 ranked challenger. It is what it is. It's not like he didn't fight the best challenger before that and is not about to do it again in Septermber.
I have never ever said there was no substance to Wlad. Why are you making stuff up?
I've always maintained he'd be a player in any era.
Still doesn't change the fact that his resume is not impressive at all and his fights are boring to death.
So....... if that's all it is, why get butt hurt and compare physiques and boxing ability with those who do not agree with you on a forum. I don't claim to be the most composed or rational person in the world but that's weak and immature. I don't know anyones history on here but it should be just a civil discussion really. Were not going to change anyones minds here ultimately.
You've sucked Wlad's dick this whole thread, and you're calling someone ELSE gay?
You probably dream of being spit-roasted by Wlad and Vitali.
Aslong as balls don't touch its not gay, VG if you were half the height of Vitali you'd be taller than you are now :lol1: