First let me start off by saying Floyd won...period.
Wasn't a close fight on points but a close fight in rounds.
Many close rounds. Anyone that thinks Cotto doesn't deserve a rematch is crazy...especially if he beats Martinez...( not likely)
Side note: the commentating was probably top 3 worst commentating ever....they gave Cotto absolutely no respect and over embellished Floyd's ....everything..lol
Commentating is comical . Please take the time to listen to these guys ...it's sheer sexual eloquence. They sucked Floyd off in front of millions...
Ex. " oh Cotto lands the left hook, but that didn't hurt him, he is just great "..lol:dunce:
I didn't realize Showtime has the rights to that fight and had/has their own commentators. I just watched a minute or so of the first round and yea, I can already tell it was gonna be a Floyd cock-gobbling fest :lol1:
They just bought the rights to the international English broadcast of it...the one that everyone else in English speaking countries gets, everywhere HBO & SHO can't do PPV. They didn't go back & put commentary on it after the fight was over.
Usually Bob Sheridan works those.
your boy got rolled bitch, deal with it :laugh:
he bloodied Floyd's nose, that's all
Floyd's aged and lost a step, it showed in that fight
slowpoke Cotto had no business landing any combos on Floyd
2-3 rds he got him on the ropes and flurried, whoopty doo
Cotto's shot and Floyd doesn't owe him a rematch
and if Cotto beats Martinez, it's only because Martinez was shot worse
You is mad. It be verrrrry obvious
I always try to explain the competitive, but not close thing whenever people get mad about my scores for this fight. Cotto did not come close to winning. This was no 8-4 or 7-5 fight. Cotto was in every round, but in the large majority of them he was losing.
It doesn't mean Cotto got dominated, and I'm not saying he didn't fight a hell of a fight. I was actually quite impressed with how Cotto fought. He was just not good enough to pull more than 2 or 3 rounds.
This sums it up beautifully. Its interesting that there seems to be a distinct possability that two broadcasts of this same fight exist with different biases! Cotto was indeed competative. He showed that he is a live dog who belongs in the ring with Floyd and actually....I might pick him to do better in a rematch IF we could set the clock back!
What people do not realize about the often brooding, verbally tight Miguel Cotto is that behind that crinkled brow and frown is a CPU the equal of Mayweather's. When Cotto fought Mosley everyone lambasted him for switching to a boxing style the last rounds, but Cotto has known and adapted to fixing his weaknesses for a while now.
Cotto came into the sport, perhaps more technically sound than he got credit for, but lacking in certain areas. Over the years he fixed these foibles and what we saw during the Mayweather fight was a guy with very few weaknesses for Floyd to pick apart.
having said all that Floyd won...he took the rounds. But Cotto caused Floyd to make some adjustments...Foyd was not happy that he could be pressed and hit as Cotto did in that fight.
Imagine Cotto vs Guerrero. Cotto by 8th round KO.
Cotto gave him a hell of a fight. He should have a rematch if he beats SM @ 160(catchweight since Cotto said 160 is too much). Work on stamina & defence
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Floyd won the fight but Cotto put hurt on him almost every round. Even if he struggled from time to time I still think its one of Floyd's best performances, because he was forced to bring the A game.
This is a Green K worth post right here Gents, Im on my phone so I cant right now but will do so soon!
You are absolutley right. It was a masterful performance only because King Cotto brought the best in Floyd.
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To be fair they made millions of retards think the ODLH fight was close, so they owe Floyd a couple.
Probably down to Floyd apologising to Merchant pre fight for the Ortiz outburst. Larry very nice to Fllyd in the commentating of this one.
Your confusing the HBO commentary with Showtimes.
As much as I hate to say this, HBO was more definitely more fair, Showtime was a joke.
The commentary in question was originally on boxnation's broadcast of the fight with Bob Sheridan and some other guy. It's the same commentary that Showtime uses for their replay of the fight. It was god awful. It was as if they had prepared to commentate a fight they expected Floyd to completely dominate. It almost put HBO's pachugging to shame. HBO's commentary for this fight was much better than they normally do. Some say it was a little too pro Cotto, though.
Floyd won the fight but Cotto put hurt on him almost every round. Even if he struggled from time to time I still think its one of Floyd's best performances, because he was forced to bring the A game.
Exactly right!
I thought Cotto was taking it to Floyd and making Floyd step his game up. Floyd had to up his game to win , which he respectfully did... Damn entertaining fight.
The commentary in question was originally on boxnation's broadcast of the fight with Bob Sheridan and some other guy. It's the same commentary that Showtime uses for their replay of the fight. It was god awful. It was as if they had prepared to commentate a fight they expected Floyd to completely dominate. It almost put HBO's pachugging to shame. HBO's commentary for this fight was much better than they normally do. Some say it was a little too pro Cotto, though.
Floyd won the fight but Cotto put hurt on him almost every round. Even if he struggled from time to time I still think its one of Floyd's best performances, because he was forced to bring the A game.
The irony my friend. Cotto is King. Win or lose, Cotto is King!
When Miguel beats Sergio only the haters Floyd dicck riders will not want him to fight Floyd.
Miguel had a great showing against what is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. Floyd landed 29% of his total punch count on Miguel, where he LANDED 46% in his PREVIOUS nine (9) fights! WTF? You kidding me? It means that Floyd was unable to land at will like usually does and reflects that Miguel did something right defensively.
I'm not saying that Cotto won in any way or form, but the fight was much, much more competitive than what his haters and bias Floyd fanatics like to admit.
Cotto's rounds 11-12 were his worse defensibly where Floyd scored his best offensive output. Miguel himself had said that he was out of gas after the 9th round and the punch stats support that.
In retrospect and looking right after the Cotto fight, Floyd landed a massive 53% of this punch output on Canelo, a huge 24% difference. The only difference is that Alvarez is idolized and overly hyped by his fans/Golden Boy and the judges gave him "additional support" with the scoring (lol!), and Miguel did not Alvarez did.
Let me clarify that I'm not a punch stats guy but I do look at them to get an idea of specific outputs by different boxers and expand my POV.
Now, in all reality if SHO Box wanted to sell us a rematch I would much rather see Miguel fight Floyd once again specially with the newly more offensive minded/better conditioned Cotto. Not like what the hypetrain fans of Alvarez were posting a few days ago about Alvarez deserving a rematch and what no. They are :crackhead 's smoking the good chit!
...but Alvarez deserves a rematch? Does he? Specially after beating on Angulo....? But Miguel after he stops Sergio will not? GTFO here with that BS.
The WORSE version imaginable of Sergio Martinez is 1000000000000000000 times better than Angulo. Any version of Sergio that Cotto beats is > X 100 Trillion times anything that Canelo has in his current resume, yet, he got a chance to fight Floyd? lol!
I remember scoring this fight 116-112 in what was a competitive but clear win for Mayweather. Up until the eighth round it was a highly entertaining and contested affair (Cotto had a good gameplan going into the fight), Cotto gassed out in the last four rounds and Mayweather cruised through. The fight does make you wonder how close it might have been if Cotto had 12 round stamina. :boxing:
Agree with all this.
The irony my friend. Cotto is King. Win or lose, Cotto is King!
When Miguel beats Sergio only the haters Floyd dicck riders will not want him to fight Floyd.
Miguel had a great showing against what is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. Floyd landed 29% of his total punch count on Miguel, where he LANDED 46% in his PREVIOUS nine (9) fights! WTF? You kidding me? It means that Floyd was unable to land at will like usually does and reflects that Miguel did something right defensively.
I'm not saying that Cotto won in any way or form, but the fight was much, much more competitive than what his haters and bias Floyd fanatics like to admit.
Cotto's rounds 11-12 were his worse defensibly where Floyd scored his best offensive output. Miguel himself had said that he was out of gas after the 9th round and the punch stats support that.
In retrospect and looking right after the Cotto fight, Floyd landed a massive 53% of this punch output on Canelo, a huge 24% difference. The only difference is that Alvarez is idolized and overly hyped by his fans/Golden Boy and the judges gave him "additional support" with the scoring (lol!), and Miguel did not Alvarez did.
Let me clarify that I'm not a punch stats guy but I do look at them to get an idea of specific outputs by different boxers and expand my POV.
Now, in all reality if SHO Box wanted to sell us a rematch I would much rather see Miguel fight Floyd once again specially with the newly more offensive minded/better conditioned Cotto. Not like what the hypetrain fans of Alvarez were posting a few days ago about Alvarez deserving a rematch and what no. They are :crackhead 's smoking the good chit!
Well put and valid points. Ill have to agree.
...but Alvarez deserves a rematch? Does he? Specially after beating on Angulo....? But Miguel after he stops Sergio will not? GTFO here with that BS.
The WORSE version imaginable of Sergio Martinez is 1000000000000000000 times better than Angulo. Any version of Sergio that Cotto beats is > X 100 Trillion times anything that Canelo has in his current resume, yet, he got a chance to fight Floyd? lol!
Wow. Green K.
First let me start off by saying Floyd won...period.
Wasn't a close fight on points but a close fight in rounds.
Many close rounds. Anyone that thinks Cotto doesn't deserve a rematch is crazy...especially if he beats Martinez...( not likely)
Side note: the commentating was probably top 3 worst commentating ever....they gave Cotto absolutely no respect and over embellished Floyd's ....everything..lol
Commentating is comical . Please take the time to listen to these guys ...it's sheer sexual eloquence. They sucked Floyd off in front of millions...
Ex. " oh Cotto lands the left hook, but that didn't hurt him, he is just great "..lol:dunce:
To be fair they made millions of retards think the ODLH fight was close, so they owe Floyd a couple.
Probably down to Floyd apologising to Merchant pre fight for the Ortiz outburst. Larry very nice to Fllyd in the commentating of this one.
Floyd definitely struggled with Cotto. He thought Cotto was going to be a walk in the park, I enjoyed Cotto bullying Floyd all night. Good fight
Green K bro! You avatar is P4P material!!!
Yes, very much P4P jejejeje!!
probably floyd's most entertaining/competitive fight in ages. after a while you get tired of him taking everyone to school it's nice when it seems like some guys he fights have a pulse. of course, it's not his fault he's that much better than everyone else.
This is correct. This was a great fight and I truly enjoyed it. I scored this fight 116/112 for Floyd. I loved the close in action on Cotto's game plan and I loved how Floyd utilized all his defensive techniques and mastery to avoid Cotto's attack.
For me it was a technical display of inside offensive and defensive boxing. Well done by FMJr. and Cotto.
I'll love to see a rematch if and only if Cotto defeats Martinez.
Floyd definitely struggled with Cotto. He thought Cotto was going to be a walk in the park, I enjoyed Cotto bullying Floyd all night. Good fight
Green K bro! You avatar is P4P material!!!
I remember scoring this fight 116-112 in what was a competitive but clear win for Mayweather. Up until the eighth round it was a highly entertaining and contested affair (Cotto had a good gameplan going into the fight), Cotto gassed out in the last four rounds and Mayweather cruised through. The fight does make you wonder how close it might have been if Cotto had 12 round stamina. :boxing:
bold is your basis for making this thread dude
"yeah he lost, but did well enough there could be a rematch later"
counterpoint is, "no, he didn't, a rematch is not necessary"
do...you...understand..now? :spankme:
...but Alvarez deserves a rematch? Does he? Specially after beating on Angulo....? But Miguel after he stops Sergio will not? GTFO here with that BS.
The WORSE version imaginable of Sergio Martinez is 1000000000000000000 times better than Angulo. Any version of Sergio that Cotto beats is > X 100 Trillion times anything that Canelo has in his current resume, yet, he got a chance to fight Floyd? lol!
I always find it a little weird how fans want Floyd to fight a bigger Sergio but think it's outrageous for Pac to fight a bigger Canelo. But Floyd can also fight Pac..
And Cotto will have fought all three...lol and maybe all four
The irony my friend. Cotto is King. Win or lose, Cotto is King!
When Miguel beats Sergio only the haters Floyd dicck riders will not want him to fight Floyd.
Miguel had a great showing against what is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. Floyd landed 29% of his total punch count on Miguel, where he LANDED 46% in his PREVIOUS nine (9) fights! WTF? You kidding me? It means that Floyd was unable to land at will like usually does and reflects that Miguel did something right defensively.
I'm not saying that Cotto won in any way or form, but the fight was much, much more competitive than what his haters and bias Floyd fanatics like to admit.
Cotto's rounds 11-12 were his worse defensibly where Floyd scored his best offensive output. Miguel himself had said that he was out of gas after the 9th round and the punch stats support that.
In retrospect and looking right after the Cotto fight, Floyd landed a massive 53% of this punch output on Canelo, a huge 24% difference. The only difference is that Alvarez is idolized and overly hyped by his fans/Golden Boy and the judges gave him "additional support" with the scoring (lol!), and Miguel did not Alvarez did.
Let me clarify that I'm not a punch stats guy but I do look at them to get an idea of specific outputs by different boxers and expand my POV.
Now, in all reality if SHO Box wanted to sell us a rematch I would much rather see Miguel fight Floyd once again specially with the newly more offensive minded/better conditioned Cotto. Not like what the hypetrain fans of Alvarez were posting a few days ago about Alvarez deserving a rematch and what no. They are :crackhead 's smoking the good chit!
qgave cotto i think 4 rounds, he did good, could have done better if he wasn't fat
Yes he gave a good show but the showtimes commentators didn't give him not even a half a round...lol