Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

lol Pac should have taken the test

Bump.. Who's fault was it this fight never happened in their prime? ah .... okay. but but but but the roadblock doe

Bump.. Who's fault was it this fight never happened in their prime? ah .... okay.

yet pac fans have been saying its floyd 100% I don't believe any sane person can pin the entire blame on Mayweather. This is a 50-50 thing. IMHO Mayweather has been more for this fight than Pac who is controlled and doesn't seem to know when to say no or yes. Everytime Pac has a fight coming up then it's yes I want the fight, everytime Mayweather has a fight it's don't talk to me about Pac, but on the real face of things only one fighter (Mayweather) has actually made a bid for the two to get in the ring.

reaching much LOL!! “I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.” yet pac fans have been saying its floyd 100%

reaching much LOL!! “I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.”

i agree with roach. pacman should have called duckweather's bluffs from the very beginning. TBE would have been exposed early. :bigeyes:

wow this thread lasted less than a week, guess the pac turds ran out of ways to cover this up

Anyone Remember this? ... 50+ pages lol

Revising history and making Pac look guiltier by the minute. . Of course he looks guiltier by the minute, your own ****1ng coach says that youre to blame for a fight not happening

Revising history and making Pac look guiltier by the minute. .

I'm a Floyd fan. I've never defended cherrypick. Guerrero was a cherrypick. Gatti was. Baldomir was disgusting. Maidana is a sh1tty matchup However I can give credit for some good fights he gave us: Undefeated Hatton Undefeated Canelo Undefeated Corrales Mosley after he dismantled Margarito JLC, and being fair enough to give JLC and immediate rematch and a chance to prove that he deserved the win against floyd. If somebody is stubborn in this thread, it's you. Defending Pac to the end. You forgot Marquez jumping up nearly 3 divisions and Floyd not making weight .... Hatton was a 140 fighter. Never looked good at 147. Mosley was old and inactive Corrales was weight drained but I don't blame Floyd Canelo was too green and needed more time to fix his issues. He can't even make 154 easily imagine 152! Weight drained and this was Floyd's fault. BTW: I have criticized some of Manny's fight selection. So you are totally wrong ... but as far as fighting Floyd, Manny has always wanted it more. Again, go check out the video clips just like you are hanging on to every word Roach says. It's as clear as day, Floyd is NOT interested in fighting Manny!

Bottom line is Pacquiao and Arum were never confident of beating Floyd in a ring, much less confident Manny was drug-free, so they had to sue Floyd and GBP in court for "character defamation" and to delay random drug testing to block the fight from ever happening. Marquez made Manny realize how important PED testing is for the sport. .

Still can't get yourself to list them roadblocks or times where Floyd said that "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" How can Manny vs Marquez 4 be a cherry pick when everyone except JC-Super knows that Marquez vs Manny will always be a tough fight for both. Manny joked about being KOed by Marquez. Life moves on for Manny and his fans. Floyd fans are different. They defend cherry picked opponents even when the opponent himself calls out Floyd as a cherry picker (ex. Guerrero) I'm a Floyd fan. I've never defended cherrypick. Guerrero was a cherrypick. Gatti was. Baldomir was disgusting. Maidana is a sh1tty matchup However I can give credit for some good fights he gave us: Undefeated Hatton Undefeated Canelo Undefeated Corrales Mosley after he dismantled Margarito JLC, and being fair enough to give JLC and immediate rematch and a chance to prove that he deserved the win against floyd. If somebody is stubborn in this thread, it's you. Defending Pac to the end.

Lol, like getting planked by Marquez was part of the plan. Pac-Marquez IV was a cherrypick that went terribly wrong. Still can't get yourself to list them roadblocks or times where Floyd said that "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" How can Manny vs Marquez 4 be a cherry pick when everyone except JC-Super knows that Marquez vs Manny will always be a tough fight for both. Manny joked about being KOed by Marquez. Life moves on for Manny and his fans. Floyd fans are different. They defend cherry picked opponents even when the opponent himself calls out Floyd as a cherry picker (ex. Guerrero)

You can do better than that .... come on, show us all those roadblocks created by Floyd ....... GO! :rofl: It's not about being a diva it's about "health comes first" ...... and that Floyd does NOT want to risk his precious "0". You can't come up with a reason why Manny would duck Floyd because there isn't one. Manny lost to Morales and Marquez, life still moves on for Manny. He even jokes about his loss to Marquez. If Floyd lost to Manny, you know that it would have been "party over" for Floyd. There is a difference that you can't seem to understand. You dont seem to understand that Pac is Arum's cash cow and getting humiliated by Floyd back in the time would have meant for Arum an enormous loss of money in the future. All the in-house fights he did, Clottey-Pac, Margarito-Pac, Marquez 3 4, Bradley 1 2, would not have generated a lot of interest after a loss against Floyd. Like I've said, I agree that Floyd is a diva and doesnt look interested in the fight. What is amusing me is kid like you who would defend Pac all day, thinking he wants to fight Floyd.

I told you that you can't negotiate a cutoff date during random testing. The testers knew when it would've been safe to stop testing. **** Arum.

You can do better than that .... come on, show us all those roadblocks created by Floyd ....... GO! :rofl: It's not about being a diva it's about "health comes first" ...... and that Floyd does NOT want to risk his precious "0". You can't come up with a reason why Manny would duck Floyd because there isn't one. Manny lost to Morales and Marquez, life still moves on for Manny. He even jokes about his loss to Marquez. If Floyd lost to Manny, you know that it would have been "party over" for Floyd. There is a difference that you can't seem to understand. Lol, like getting planked by Marquez was part of the plan. Pac-Marquez IV was a cherrypick that went terribly wrong.

ahahah ok so just to resume : - Fearing needles when youre full of tatoos - Having a cut that needs to heal for the next year - Building a stadium - Blood testing draining his energy - Putting an ultimatum and signing Clottey in the process instead of honestly negociationg - Your own trainer and conditioner agree that they fuc ked up the first negociations - Ask for gloves size, 50-50 split, huge weight penalty, but refuse a ****1ng blood test for the biggest payday in the history of boxing And all this, in your fantasy world, translate to Manny wanting the fight but made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out. ahahahah you're just pathetic. Like I've said, Im a floyd fan, but I know the dude is a diva and dont really want the fight. What I find amusing on this site is the little children who thinks that Pac is some kind of fearless god. You know, kids like you You can do better than that .... come on, show us all those roadblocks created by Floyd ....... GO! :rofl: It's not about being a diva it's about "health comes first" ...... and that Floyd does NOT want to risk his precious "0". You can't come up with a reason why Manny would duck Floyd because there isn't one. Manny lost to Morales and Marquez, life still moves on for Manny. He even jokes about his loss to Marquez. If Floyd lost to Manny, you know that it would have been "party over" for Floyd. There is a difference that you can't seem to understand.

If you get a poll going, you would quickly realize that you are mistaken. "Who wants the fight more" or "who tried to duck the fight" Actually, no poll or evidence will get you to agree but that is another matter. :lol1: Roach is saying that they should have accepted initially. Cool, no problem but that doesn't translate to what you believe. Manny has always wanted the fight and made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out . As I pointed out, lot's of times you actually hear Floyd saying that he was not interested in fighting Manny. You don't see Manny saying that. So if you believe Roach, you need to believe that Floyd was never really interested in fighting Manny as he stated from 2010 - TODAY. ahahah ok so just to resume : - Fearing needles when youre full of tatoos - Having a cut that needs to heal for the next year - Building a stadium - Blood testing draining his energy - Putting an ultimatum and signing Clottey in the process instead of honestly negociationg - Your own trainer and conditioner agree that they fuc ked up the first negociations - Ask for gloves size, 50-50 split, huge weight penalty, but refuse a ****1ng blood test for the biggest payday in the history of boxing And all this, in your fantasy world, translate to Manny wanting the fight but made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out. ahahahah you're just pathetic. Like I've said, Im a floyd fan, but I know the dude is a diva and dont really want the fight. What I find amusing on this site is the little children who thinks that Pac is some kind of fearless god. You know, kids like you