What an original thread!!!!.. To answer the question everyone can beat Floyd, he either fought them to late, to early or at the wrong weight,or he cheated....
You want to play the robbery route "boxing fan"?
And there are people out there that think Floyd will have a strong legacy. :lol1: Where is Oscar rated? Grey area. And Floyd loses H2H PFP? Bad sign, homie.
i think a lot of great welterweights would have beaten floyd. that's not a knock on floyd. he was just at his best at lower weights.
guerrero, ortiz, marquez, baldomir, etc. simply don't compare to oscar, tito, quartey, forrest, etc.
Yes.........
Prime Oscar beats Floyd. You could use their encounter to decide that. Oscar had about 8 solid rounds in him that night and was still able to be ahead a round when Floyd swept 9-12. HE was able to think with Floyd, but he fought a stationary fight. Prime Oscar would dart in and out with lightening fast combos and bounce on his toes. He knew how to win on the cards and that's what he would've done. His superior jab, movement in and out, combination punching, and SIZE wins him the fight.
I would think so, he almost beat him past his prime.
Thing with Floyd, he seems to have gotten better with age and picks his opponents better also.
Not a huge Oscar fan, but he wasn't scared of anybody. Fought a lot of little guys, but he also fought everybody he was supposed to. Floyd won't risk his 0
I suppose you're one of the guys who thought De La Hoya vs Mayweather was close!?
Now I'm not sure the outcome of a hypothetical match prime vs prime at 147 but I know for damn sure Oscar wasn't close whatsoever in their actual fight! He likes to say he showed the blueprint but all I seen was him winging it and missing 80% of his punches
Whitaker won.........
Whitaker won that fight. The knock down did it. Outside of that, he used veteran tactics to nullify Oscar's superior youth and size. He had just enough of vintage Whitaker to win that one, but barely. LoL.
Didn't he make him pay when RuPaul tried to go southpaw and got dropped?
Before watching the fight I already had the "robbery" posts in my head, and how Whitaker should have won. At the end of the fight, I laughed. I rewatched it to see it with a different mindset, give Whitaker the benefit of the doubt, unfortunately his offense was nearly non-existent and very difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Donaire knocked down Rigondeaux, that doesn't tell the story of the rest of his night offensively. Although DLH was nothing like Rigo, I am just using it as a light example.
He was also deducted a point for not getting cut and I still had it for Pea - he got screwed.
Who got deducted the point... I don't remember that.. You honestly think that it was a robbery instead of just a super close fight..
Lol... Yeah he dropped oscar with a beautiful counter, but that was his only offensive moment in the fight... The fight reminds me a lot of Taylor-Hopkins with Hopkins making him miss a lot but not having much offensive
He was also deducted a point for not getting cut and I still had it for Pea - he got screwed.
Didn't he make him pay when RuPaul tried to go southpaw and got dropped?
Lol... Yeah he dropped oscar with a beautiful counter, but that was his only offensive moment in the fight... The fight reminds me a lot of Taylor-Hopkins with Hopkins making him miss a lot but not having much offensive
I've seen that fight twice and I really don't see how it was a robbery. I thought DLH won on activity and the few punches he landed at least he was throwing. Pernell did excellent defensively, but where was his offense? He was content with just making DLH miss and clowning around the ring. I thought DLH deservedly got the W because he was the one making the fight and throwing punches, while he did miss quite often, Pernell didn't exactly throw anything or make Oscar pay for missing.
If we talk about Dirrell-Froch, a similar fight, where Dirrell made Froch miss and made him pay in return and landed punches but Froch was coming forward and throwing, then we're looking at a robbery.
Didn't he make him pay when RuPaul tried to go southpaw and got dropped?
A prime Oscar.. probably would put the sort of whooping on Floyd that the boxing world deserves to see.
Don't forget he was a deceptively powerful in his prime and I wouldn't be surprised if he even stopped FMJ
Oscar never in his life put a whooping on any defensive/slick fighters he fought like Hopkins, Whitaker, Forbes, and less defensive but still above average defense like Mosley, Quartey, Trinidad. When you put a brawler/less defensive fighter in front of DLH like Chavez, Vargas, Mayorga, Gatti, Leija, Ruelas yeah we see a whooping, but DLH would never whoop some one like Floyd.
A lot like Oscar and Pernell??? so you pick Oscar via Robbery?
I've seen that fight twice and I really don't see how it was a robbery. I thought DLH won on activity and the few punches he landed at least he was throwing. Pernell did excellent defensively, but where was his offense? He was content with just making DLH miss and clowning around the ring. I thought DLH deservedly got the W because he was the one making the fight and throwing punches, while he did miss quite often, Pernell didn't exactly throw anything or make Oscar pay for missing.
If we talk about Dirrell-Froch, a similar fight, where Dirrell made Froch miss and made him pay in return and landed punches but Froch was coming forward and throwing, then we're looking at a robbery.