Just rewatched Pacquiao/Bradley2, SOBER...

Floyd easy UD...Floyd would probably land 60% of his shots and 80% of his jabs vs Pacquiao. Bradley tagged him so many times.

What made the /Mayweather/Pacquiao fight so interesting once, and what had me picking Pacquiao to win that fight once upon a time, was how hard Pacquiao's whole arsenal was to handle. He was so quick and constantly moving and threw punches that were so hard to predict, and even if you did predict them he found ways to land them anyway. His volume was crazy. If you punched him in the mouth, he came at you like a madman to make up for it. Mayweather would have had a very hard time dealing with all that. Now Pacquiao is more of an unorthodox, speedy southpaw who likes to box. He isn't going to beat Mayweather trying to box, and when he does get countered hard, whereas before he would have got pissed off and gone at Mayweather throwing combos, he'll probably just reset and keep getting countered now. He'll try those combos every so often, miss, eat a shot, rinse and repeat. It's over, man. Pac still has the talent and skill to pose some problems, but the day where Pacquiao beats Floyd Mayweather is gone. It's horribly depressing, but it's true. Agree with this entirely. In 2009-2010 this could've been fight of the century. Pac's relentlessness was the X-factor. Sad to think about what could've been.

Manny had Bradley desperately swinging for the fences. He got caught a couple of times but controlled the second half of the fight and they were about even in the first half. He took over and started to pick him apart, reducing him to the clowning that cost him most dearly. This is against a young, prime, top level P4P guy who he first fought two years ago. He's able to put on that type of performance this late in his career, and following a devastating knockout loss. If people don't respect Manny now, I don't know what to say. 100% Perfect summary.

I think your opinion on Pac's performance is based on how good you think Bradley is. I personally rate Bradley pretty high. To compare Floyd's last several opponents, I consider Tim to be a better fighter and more difficult matchup than Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana, etc. If you dont rate Bradley's ability then I can see how you would see Pac as looking sluggish or slower. That was an impressive win all things considered. It's easy to take guys like Pac and Floyd for granted. Totally agree. I too think that Bradley is a very good fighter, in his prime and undefeatead. Before the fight I thought that Bradley had many chances to winning this fight so now I have to give Pac due credit.

Your gif is an example of why this would not be an easy fight for Floyd. You can't be satisfied with dodging two punches and landing a glancing blow vs Manny. You need to throw punches in bunches in order to win against the volume of punches that Manny is going to throw and land. Floyd doesn't want to throw a lot. He wants to dodge, land a pot shot here and there, and eek rounds out that way. That's not working vs. Manny - you have to exchange. This^^^^ people was hoodwinked to go blind. Floyd coc ks before he fires, he waits for his slow opponents to punch a one-two combo then counter. when was the last time floyd fought a Pacquiao caliber fighter? This 2014 Pacquiao is more dangerous for floyd than any version of pacquiao, and floyd knows that. Flow-moist also knows that and they dont want the fight to happen neither. Ask any of them they will tell you its better for Pacquiao to retire for obvious reason.

I had the first fight 7-5 Pacquiao. This fight I had 8-4 Pacquiao, he looked really good I must say. I picked Bradley to win beforehand. I underestimated Pacquiao as a boxer, his timing is great and he is not too bad at avoiding shots. His stamina is freakin amazing. His killer instinct is gone but I think this is a great thing at his age and after so many wars. He can simply win with his speed, going in and out at the right moments in the round. No need to take unnecessary risks.

I think your opinion on Pac's performance is based on how good you think Bradley is. I personally rate Bradley pretty high. To compare Floyd's last several opponents, I consider Tim to be a better fighter and more difficult matchup than Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana, etc. If you dont rate Bradley's ability then I can see how you would see Pac as looking sluggish or slower. That was an impressive win all things considered. It's easy to take guys like Pac and Floyd for granted.

He doesn't have the activity, movement, or sharpness to beat Mayweather anymore. Let it go. Pac's one of my all time favorites, but those days are over. He'd spend 12 rounds getting potshotted and accept it all the way. Yeah,, this is how i feel,, a few years ago manny had a legit chance, I just think now floyd would potshot him, and use the lead/counter right to beat manny... Manny looked good last night, but not good enough to beat floyd

Manny looked better than i thought, I give him that. And Bradley is not an easy fighter to look good against. But he has slowed down, his speed has decreased notably. However I still think that he would be one of the thougest fights for Floyd, way more competetive than Maidana. But of course Floyd aín´t fighting him until he is completely shot. He is too much a coward.

Bradley lost every round trying to do that. Also, JMM countered with combinations WHILE taking hard shots himself. Don't act like JMM had a walk in the park with Manny, and just sat back, read a book, and pot shotted Manny. Like I said before. Morales 1 is how you beat Manny. yall dudes high?manny has looked bad against all 3 of the technical boxers he fought lol.jmm,bradley,morales.he looked good in spurts last night and that was mainly because of tims foolishness.the 11th rnd showed exactly what a manny/floyd fight would look like

Wasn't OP on here crying last night that Pacquiao is washed up and shouldn't fight Floyd because he'd get embarrassed? NSB, you gotta love it.

Masterful performance indeed. He wasn't even tired at the end and he could easily go another 12 rounds. Sparring session for Manny.

Pacquiao showed in this fight and the Rios fight what a skilled boxer he is as well as a big puncher.

Have to agree with OP. We just witnessed Manny toy with a top 3 p4p fighter in his prime. Meanwhile, floyd struggles to beat guys like robert guerrero (No disrespect intended, but hes not a top 10 p4p fighter imo) 2009 Manny KOs floyd within 8 rounds. 2014 manny has perhaps lost some of the explosiveness h once had, but has more than made up for it with refined technique. I say this version of manny wins a UD over floyd, in the region of 8-4/9-3. Wait one second here. I wasn't going to get involved in a such a stupid thread by a completely biassed and idiotic OP, but this right here needs to be squashed. Did you seriously just say Floyd Struggled to beat Guerrero? Asinine! I have seen a lot of **** spewed in these manny vs floyd verbal war, but come now that is ludicrous. Floyd completely dominated him, period. Hell, Floyd has completed dominated everyone since returning from retirement. The closest fight was an 8-4 fight with Cotto. So come now stop the BS. And for that matter did you even watch the fight? Because if you did you would realize that fight was closer than Floyd-Gurrero was. Yes, Manny looked good, but Bradley was winning the early parts of the fight before he completely changed his game plan. Manny adapted, took control of the fight and look good down the stretch. However, he certainly didn't look great. Great was his performances against Oscar, Cotto, Hatton, and Margarito. So can we for one minute be reasonable here? God damn, I never thought I would see the day were someone said Floyd struggled to beat Gurrero...

I think watching the fight under the influence and then watching it soon after sober has affected your judgement. Perhaps you're overcompensating for what you thought last night. Pacquiao looked good, not great. This is not a prime 2009 Pacquiao showing nor is it a masterclass of boxing IQ. His speed looks to be down a little bit, still lightning fast but not as lightning fast. Outside of a few of the combos (that 10 punch combo was masterful) he was also missing a lot more and getting caught. Credit due to Bradley for that though. Near the end of one of the rounds I remember Manny firing off maybe at least 8 straight punches all missing and being slipped. That looked bad. Manny even ate a few lead straight rights which Bradley committed to for only like the first 2 rounds. Bradley was also having some success in aggressively chasing Pacquiao when Pacquiao was retreating. Normally Pacquiao's opponents don't like to chase Pacquiao back when he dances away from a combo but Bradley did, made Pacquiao uncomfortable and caught him with a few good shots which almost never happened in the first fight. This is all in the first half of the fight and no doubt Pacquiao took over the second half. But that was a gassed and maybe slightly injured Bradley (I can't remember if its the 7th or 8th round somewhere around there you can see Bradley visibly limping to his corner at the end of the round). That sure as hell made the fight less competitive. If you think the second half of the fight went better ONLY because Pacquiao adapted then that is just naive. Pacquiao was a clear winner in this fight. But there were only glimpses of a great Pacquiao, not a great Pacquiao throughout.

BUNGALOWS, come on now. You know Floyd would stink it up BAD versus Manny. I don't know why, but I kept saying Floyd could make Manny "No Mas" if he fights in his ATG POTSHOT style. It's just I think Manny CAN hurt Floyd, aside from Timothy "ill punch u when im out on my feet" Bradley, Manny has been fighting guys that are a lot bigger on fight night. Floyd meeting Manny would be similar tonight's weight, but is Floyd's chin as great as Bradley's??

Even when Manny was Super Manny in 2009, I think he wouldn't be able to beat the 2009 version of Floyd. He put on a great performance against Cotto, but the flaws were still there and Cotto is by no means a sharpshooter.

Your gif is an example of why this would not be an easy fight for Floyd. You can't be satisfied with dodging two punches and landing a glancing blow vs Manny. You need to throw punches in bunches in order to win against the volume of punches that Manny is going to throw and land. Floyd doesn't want to throw a lot. He wants to dodge, land a pot shot here and there, and eek rounds out that way. That's not working vs. Manny - you have to exchange. Ummm...the theory is wrong. Watch Vinny Paz vs Roger Mayweather-it is a good blueprint on how to beat a guy who uses in and out movement that is aggressive and throws combos...

Have to agree with OP. We just witnessed Manny toy with a top 3 p4p fighter in his prime. Meanwhile, floyd struggles to beat guys like robert guerrero (No disrespect intended, but hes not a top 10 p4p fighter imo) 2009 Manny KOs floyd within 8 rounds. 2014 manny has perhaps lost some of the explosiveness h once had, but has more than made up for it with refined technique. I say this version of manny wins a UD over floyd, in the region of 8-4/9-3.

Your gif is an example of why this would not be an easy fight for Floyd. You can't be satisfied with dodging two punches and landing a glancing blow vs Manny. You need to throw punches in bunches in order to win against the volume of punches that Manny is going to throw and land. Floyd doesn't want to throw a lot. He wants to dodge, land a pot shot here and there, and eek rounds out that way. That's not working vs. Manny - you have to exchange. That's your opinion. Floyd systematically come forward against southpaws and gets off first, and sometimes he'll wait to counter the right jab with a left hook or straight right through the middle, and he'll feints and come up with variety of punches downstairs and upstairs. Floyd has can offset Manny's offense and workrate. Manny will throw flurries, while Floyd will land the cleaner and better eye-catching punches. You can't really use this gif since it was against an orthodox fighter, and Floyd doesn't roll his shoulders against southpaws, but he's great when it comes to offset their offense. Basically, his offense is his defense against southpaws and he tends to let his hands go more against them.