i thought PAC showed great conditioning in the Rios fight...he put in more 'complete' rounds in that fight than in recent ones...i think the readdition of Fortune was a good thing
He's always shown great conditioning in the ring IMO.
I can't take much from the Rios fight because that was basically him hitting the bag for 12 rounds.
This fight will tell us where Pacquaio is at in his career.
Yeah, agree with you there.
I think Pacquaio's just the much better fighter. Passed his best yes but I still think he's too much for Bradley's.
Bradley's can box abit, he's a solid boxer and counter puncher but IMO no where near good enough to outbox Pacquaio to a legit decision.
Only way I think Bradley takes this is if Pacquaio is well well well passed it (Something I'm not sure about at this stage)
That said I expect Bradley to more competitive this time, and expect a great fight because one thing I can say about Bradley is his heart is tremendous. He's not going down without a fight.
I hate to take credit away before Bradley even gets a chance to win the fight, but I can't imagine he wins unless Pacquiao is noticeably worse than in 2012. Which, of course, is very possible.
Not trying to disrespect Bradley, he's one of my favorites, but he's not as good as Manny Pacquiao. It really is that simple.
Yeah, agree with you there.
I think Pacquaio's just the much better fighter. Passed his best yes but I still think he's too much for Bradley's.
Bradley's can box abit, he's a solid boxer and counter puncher but IMO no where near good enough to outbox Pacquaio to a legit decision.
Only way I think Bradley takes this is if Pacquaio is well well well passed it (Something I'm not sure about at this stage)
That said I expect Bradley to more competitive this time, and expect a great fight because one thing I can say about Bradley is his heart is tremendous. He's not going down without a fight.
Agree. Pretty much on board with this post.
Right. Manny just doesn't focus on conditioning as much.
Leading up to this, I kept thinking to myself, there's no way either guy runs away with this fight. Bradley has a very valid excuse with the foot and ankle, and Manny's just older. But, I really think Manny's gonna do some damage to Bradley this go around. I just feel it.
I as well. Just switch the fighters, and same thing applies to me.
Yeah, agree with you there.
I think Pacquaio's just the much better fighter. Passed his best yes but I still think he's too much for Bradley's.
Bradley's can box abit, he's a solid boxer and counter puncher but IMO no where near good enough to outbox Pacquaio to a legit decision.
Only way I think Bradley takes this is if Pacquaio is well well well passed it (Something I'm not sure about at this stage)
That said I expect Bradley to more competitive this time, and expect a great fight because one thing I can say about Bradley is his heart is tremendous. He's not going down without a fight.
You know what else when Ariza said "Manny doesn't focus on conditioning anymore" when he picked Marquez to beat him the 4th time that spoke volumes to me aswell.
I'm picking him to beat Bradley aswell but in a closer fight this time.
Haha, hey, I'm a Mayweather fan and I'm no fan of Pacquaio (I do like him though as a person and fighter) but I'm not a biased guy. I call it as I see it.
Right. Manny just doesn't focus on conditioning as much.
Leading up to this, I kept thinking to myself, there's no way either guy runs away with this fight. Bradley has a very valid excuse with the foot and ankle, and Manny's just older. But, I really think Manny's gonna do some damage to Bradley this go around. I just feel it.
I as well. Just switch the fighters, and same thing applies to me.
Alright, my apologies then. Yeah, Manny did drop off physically, and I think it was more due to dedication, and not focusing on conditioning as much as he used to, plus old age. Could be a gazillion different things. All I know is, I think he has 1 last fight in him to paint a masterpiece, and I think he's gonna do that against Bradley.
Good, Iron. You've seen the light. :lol1:
You know what else when Ariza said "Manny doesn't focus on conditioning anymore" when he picked Marquez to beat him the 4th time that spoke volumes to me aswell.
I'm picking him to beat Bradley aswell but in a closer fight this time.
Haha, hey, I'm a Mayweather fan and I'm no fan of Pacquaio (I do like him though as a person and fighter) but I'm not a biased guy. I call it as I see it.
Honestly I wasn't :lol1: I'd say it if that's what I thought. I'm an honest guy I would say.
Looking bad it does look that way haha but honestly that's not what I was saying.
I'm more fascinated and curious as to the change which was quite drastic and quite fast. I mean, Pacquaio is still in outstanding shape. Could be anything from age, wear and tear, diet, not as dedicated, could be a list of things as to why he doesn't look like he did in 2009. That was 5 years ago and in the absolute peak of his life so it's no surprise he isn't the same physical specimen he was then.
I did once have my suspicions about Manny in 09/10 when he turned down the testing. But after time's gone on I don't believe he was ever on steroids, myself. That's my personal opinion.
Alright, my apologies then. Yeah, Manny did drop off physically, and I think it was more due to dedication, and not focusing on conditioning as much as he used to, plus old age. Could be a gazillion different things. All I know is, I think he has 1 last fight in him to paint a masterpiece, and I think he's gonna do that against Bradley.
Good, Iron. You've seen the light. :lol1:
Honestly I wasn't :lol1: I'd say it if that's what I thought. I'm an honest guy I would say.
Looking back it does look that way haha but honestly that's not what I was trying to say.
I'm more fascinated and curious as to the change which was quite drastic and quite fast. I mean, Pacquaio is still in outstanding shape. Could be anything from age, wear and tear, diet, not as dedicated, could be a list of things as to why he doesn't look like he did in 2009. That was 5 years ago and in the absolute peak of his life so it's no surprise he isn't the same physical specimen he was then.
I did once have my suspicions about Manny in 09/10 when he turned down the testing. But after time's gone on I don't believe he was ever on steroids, myself. That's my personal opinion.
bungalows! he did it again!! the balls on this dude.
You know what you were trying to insinuate when you said, "was so suddent and so vast", and the way you worded it was pretty sneaky.
Don't play dumb, Iron. Don't mess with me before a Manny fight. It's not cool, Iron. :lol1:
Honestly I wasn't :lol1: I'd say it if that's what I thought. I'm an honest guy I would say.
Looking back it does look that way haha but honestly that's not what I was trying to say.
I'm more fascinated and curious as to the change which was quite drastic and quite fast. I mean, Pacquaio is still in outstanding shape. Could be anything from age, wear and tear, diet, not as dedicated, could be a list of things as to why he doesn't look like he did in 2009. That was 5 years ago and in the absolute peak of his life so it's no surprise he isn't the same physical specimen he was then.
I did once have my suspicions about Manny in 09/10 when he turned down the testing. But after time's gone on I don't believe he was ever on steroids, myself. That's my personal opinion.
His body looked awesome against Cotto like you said he's been looking much worse body wise for some years now.
I'm not suspicious of Manny that's not what I was implying.
He still does look like a genetic freak to me in the ring just his body doesn't show it.
You know what you were trying to insinuate when you said, "was so suddent and so vast", and the way you worded it was pretty sneaky.
Don't play dumb, Iron. Don't mess with me before a Manny fight. It's not cool, Iron. :lol1:
Isn't that the point in a tactical battle? Use deception to gain the upper hand.
What Bradley's doing is see through, but it's whatever. Who cares? For all we know, he comes out looking like a monster, and potentially out boxes Pacquiao for 7-8 rounds.
He's acting up to hype himself up. Nothing wrong with that.
yea...i dont want to admit it but i have a nasty feeling he'll be on his backfoot most of the fight...hopefully he gets caught early with something big...nothing like jarring the sh1t out of your senses to make you abandon the gameplan
I think it's obvious.
There's no way he will outfight Manny and he knows that.
How was it sudden? It's been 5 years, and Pac's been known to not have his full heart in the game for quite some time now.
I'd be more suspicious if he was still looking like a genetic freak, and looking even bigger and stronger at this age.
Like another fighter that we both know........
His body looked awesome against Cotto like you said he's been looking much worse body wise for some years now.
I'm not suspicious of Manny that's not what I was implying.
He still does look like a genetic freak to me in the ring just his body doesn't show it.
Yep, I saw that too, Bradley trying so hard to pump himself up. Wanna be a bad boy hehehe. Notice how far Manny was standing in front of Timmeh? He must have smelling the stench coming from Bradley for not showering until before fight night. Lol
he's tryin too hard...i just hope he's not on his bike for 12rounds
That is the sense that I get that he is trying really hard on his act, and even if he runs I think that is iffy for him because he throws his wildest shots from long distance and if Manny sees those shots coming he can counter them.
Naturally, but still.
Was so sudden and so vast but I suppose that does happen.
Thing is I still see Pacquaio as a genetic freak and out of this world physically. Even know, he's not as fast as he was nor as good but he's still damn fast and explosive.
But looking at his body you wouldn't think it.
The human body, very interesting.
How was it sudden? It's been 5 years, and Pac's been known to not have his full heart in the game for quite some time now.
I'd be more suspicious if he was still looking like a genetic freak, and looking even bigger and stronger at this age.
Like another fighter that we both know........